Markos hits yet ANOTHER new low
Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:34pm
Let me say that I don't go looking for this cr*p.
It's just that whatever vile filth he vomits up tends to spread everywhere.
This time it was about the D.C. shooter.
Isn't that nice.
Of course it fits in with the same kind of thinking as this tweet.
There's your reward for voting Republican, North Carolina. https://t.co/DxQGK5fnl1
— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) May 11, 2017
And before that there was this:
But don’t feel sorry for the ones who enabled this nightmare by voting for the incoming Trump-Putin administration. For example, why should we weep for the retired coal miners who will now lose their health insurance thanks to the GOP majority—despite the best efforts of coal-state Democrats to change the outcome?
Don’t weep for these coal miners, now abandoned by their GOP patrons. They are getting exactly the government that they voted for. Democrats can no longer offer unrequited love and cover for them. And isn’t this what democracy is all about? They won the election! This is what they wanted!
Are you seeing a pattern here?
Bitter celebrations at the misfortunes of people who don't vote for Democrats.
So how are you better than Republicans again?
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Especially since....
.... today's "Democrats", by any reasonable standard, are Republicans. And right-wing Republicans at that. Today, the typical Clintonite, such as Obama, is to the right of Eisenhower and even Nixon.
The "reasonable standard" is that of the Democratic Party in continuously-loyal States between 1945 and 1975.
And Markos is violating his own rules and being a dick. Again.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Trump-Putin administration ?
They're actually using that over there ?
When you double down, you stand to lose twice as much.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Remember when CT would get you banned?
Now CT is defined by not believing CT.
Liberal-hotshot-of-yesteryear ...
From The Nation:
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Heh.
”Keith Olbermann could find no better way to insult his fellow multimillionaires Sarah Palin, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent than by calling them “trailer park trash."
Where's the problem? They are a bunch of IDIOTIC redneck wannabees, and proud of it. Guess they either forgot/are too stupid to know that the whole definition of a redneck includes trailer park white trash. Take it from someone who has lived around that sub-culture for way too long!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
extra special CT
But that only applies to Markos' extra special CT. Everyone else's "CT", including genuine facts, can go snuff it!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
More Like DKos the Land Where...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1sf2CzEq0w]
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Remember when he used to castigate
Republicans for politicizing shootings, such as Sandy Hook?
The MSM meme is ugly partisanship is the cause.
Well, the cause is the proliferation of semi-automatic weapons which both parties have refused to address with real and effective gun control.
The man was a nut.
A nut with a gun.
Nobody deserves to get shot due to political beliefs.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@on the cusp That was before Hillary
Thank you, Harvey Weinstein, for making that suggestion to Hillary. I'm happy to say I haven't seen a single movie with your imprimatur since.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Re: Weinstein - Don't you know that's a Russian Conspiracy?
Russia made her do that. /s
Someone should tweet that back at him. I'd do it, but I'm not on twitter. (and don't want to be)
@on the cusp No, nobody deserves to.
As I've said elsewhere, this is a stupid argument, in part because the US military so outguns the American populace that the guns ordinary folks buy at the gun show might as well be sticks a little kid picks up to stop an oncoming tank. Even if this were a good argument in theory--I'm not saying it is--it would be a crap argument in reality!
But it IS their argument. And now they're shocked because a citizen has shot his gun at politicians?
You don't have to believe that they deserve it to believe that this is their hypocrisy biting them right in the ass.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Exactly, cstms.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I remember when bobby kennedy was shot.
My father was NOT a supporter of RFK, but he said, "It's wrong when a US Senator gets shot for speaking his mind, whatever his views".
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Markos is a shit because he's a partisan tool.
And that requires hypocrisy, and sometimes outright lying.
I'm not going to blame him for saying the same thing I and others have said here: that politicians who constantly spew NRA talking points and pretend that they support gun owners because civilians should be able to check the power of the government with their guns shouldn't be surprised when....civilians shoot at the government with their guns. That IS the libertarian argument--and, more generally, the far-right argument--against gun control: we need to have people's militias to keep the government from getting too big for its britches. It's an absurd argument in multiple ways--but it IS their argument.
If they actually meant anything they said, they wouldn't be surprised when a much-beleaguered and unhappy population produces a few people who take the gun they bought at the gun show and aim it at politicians. Why is this a surprise? Because they aimed at Rand Paul and not at some "liberal" Democrat?
But it's not just Republicans who have done this. Using this incident to make political hay for the Democrats is disgusting and hypocritical. The Republicans have a bad position on gun control; the Democrats have no position. Or, technically their position is this: "Whatever gets us the most applause from whatever crowd we're currently standing in front of!"
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Markos will say or do whatever the party wants
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
@dkmich Perhaps I should have
Markos is a shit because he is a partisan tool
and just left it at that!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
whatever the DLC wants
More accurately, whatever the DLC wants....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Propaganda can be clever, but it has to be simple
The extraordinary number of op-eds condemning progressive Democrats, tied to a couple of incidents by "leftists", follows the general demonization principles used by the Deep State and its handmaiden, the CIA and the CIA's handmaidens in their Mighty Wurlitzer.
Last month here in Portland, a reactionary fascist with signs of psychotic mental issues, slashed three men's throats on public transportation in the city. Because he had at one time said something polite about Bernie Sanders in the middle of his violent anti-Semitic rants on FB the alt-righters swarmed to the comments section of The Oregonian and proclaimed that he wasn't alt-right at all but a progressive Democrat who supported the Jew Sanders. I noted at the time how remarkable that was.
Then the baseball massacre. Now the op-ed pages are jammed with dire warnings about the violent left.
This is the same tactic used by the elite over and over to scare the underclass into avoiding progressive solutions for the inequality of wealth and power.
If you lived in the time of Haymarket Square riots, or the Palmer raids, or McCarthyism, or the bombings of the SDS and the weirdness of the SLA, then you should be familiar.
Propaganda has to be simple in order for the message to get across. Sometimes it's clever, sometimes you don't know who pulled what strings to make some false flag happen. But underneath it all, it has to be simple.
As I explained here: https://caucus99percent.com/content/okeydoke-americans-were-supposed-get
the whole "Putin-Trump treason" okeydoke was supposed to be Clinton's casus belli. This would have launched a big war with Russia. However, someone in the Deep State didn't count the electoral votes, or didn't realize how unpopular Clinton is.
Therefore, what was left of the okeydoke has been used to bring down the execrable President Trump. It has so far not brought him down, and most people haven't clamored to the neoliberals who can't seem to even mouth a promise to the working class. So everyone in Washington is being dragged down by this overplayed scandal, except one man. Bernie Sanders. He was the most popular politician in the US at the time of the election and he still is.
The Deep State needed to throw shade on him. Thusly, a new round of lone nuts, striking terror in the heart of America in the name of Bernie.
@Bob In Portland Here's what's important:
We should reach out to Hard Bastard. He might help.
We actually DON'T want to kill right-wingers. At least, I've never run into one of us who does. Somebody's trying to rake up an ideological war to go with the race war they've strengthened and expanded. But that somebody isn't a grassroots leftist, and I'm guessing they make at least high six figures, maybe seven.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal I suspect that a fair
The reason I suspect this is the nature of the critiques used to pin the throat slasher to Sanders. No one said, "Hey, a Sanders supporter and he killed a couple guys defending Muslims." No, the purpose of the comments was to make the killer a scapegoat with strings attached to Sanders.
So carrying on a conversation with these people in comments sections really isn't going to reach actual conservatives.
@Bob In Portland Yeah, I'm not going
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Markos defines "Democrat" as a Repukelican Lite
--just like him. BTW, he's also rich. He wouldn't recognize a true democrat if one came up, held his/her nose, and bit him in his worthless arse! Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
It is not just Markos,
although he is definitely one of the most vile of the bunch, but it is the entire neoliberal establishment of the Democratic party. The complete and utter disdain for anyone who still does not worship the Clintons has turned the Democratic brand into vast wasteland of arrogance and hubris. And they do not seem to care. Their attitude is one of the meritocracy which has total disregard for the vast majority of people in this country. It is a very coarse and toxic attitude that reflects sharply upon a party that has not only lost its soul, but even worse, has lost its humanity.
I monitor Twitter on behalf of Caucus99%. Part of that task is to tweet out essays from here which gives our writers greater exposure. But also I re-tweet other tweets I read, particularly those that reflect the mission and ideas of the writers and commenters on this site. This also adds to our visibility and followers.
Occasionally, I will respond to a tweet. Since I am tweeting under the C99 banner and not my own name, I am careful not to let my own personal feelings creep into those tweets. Since Jeremy Corbyn stunning showing in the UK elections, the establishment Democrats have gone off the rails with nasty tweets denigrating Corbyn, Bernie, the lift wing in general. Leading the charge have been Joan Walsh, Neera Tanden, and Joy Reid. Joy Reid has been particularly vile and after several nasty tweets of hers, I felt compelled to respond to this one.
The establishment has gone into overtime attacking the real left. Earlier this week the New York Times did a hit piece on Lee Camp. Then today, the Times published an extremely nasty hit piece on Bernie Sanders using guilt by association to connect him to the shooting of Steve Scalise.
The establishment is scared, very scared. They are losing their grip and they know that the jig is going to be up soon.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
And it's only going to get worse.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
I agree
I have literally watched Joan Walsh melt down on Twitter. It was funny to watch, but she and Joy Reid are reflecting the panic by the establishment whom they represent. I think the establishment believes that killing net neutrality will continue to enable them to maintain their power and continue to bleed the peasants to death. But I also believe it cannot continue. Eventually the people will rise up.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thank you for responding to
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
So far
On the second level there's a whole bunch of policy wonks trying to figure out the "message" to induce "regular people" voters to vote for their candidate. However they're stymied by not really knowing, or wanting to know, "regular people voters".
Unfortunately...
Meanwhile the DemonRats continue to cash in...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Well stated!
these are the same people who thought that Obama did a great job as president and wish he was still president.
I was over at the other place and read too many comments about how the republicans are to be blamed for everything that's wrong with our government, but no mention of the democrats voting for the same damned legislation.
Everything that Bush did, Obama did. Rarely did anyone call him on it. If anyone tried to tell people that, they were called an Obama hater and a .
The same label was applied if anyone said the same thing about Hillary.
The blindness is dumbfounded.
Awesome tweet!
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
You should tweet these back to Joy
And here's one for Kamala Harris:
@ Lone Star Mike
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thanks. BTW I noticed that TOP has a new sponsor
I think Markos has so thoroughly internalized
the D vs R dichotomy, that he perceives everything through a strictly partisan, and necessarily dualistic lens. While this somewhat "filtered" perception of reality does provide an ideological structure from which to attack Republicans, it does not provide for an accurate reading of America's increasingly diverse and nuanced political climate.
An "Our Team vs Their Team" approach to addressing complex and controversial issues is too simplistic and too inflexible to allow for much, if any constructive discussion to occur. And while politics is an inherently adversarial process, the strictly binary (Right/Left, Black/White, Good/Bad) way that Americans are compelled to define themselves politically is not at all conducive to a fair and accurate representation of their opinions.
Markos is trying, almost frantically, to ramp up Democratic hostility to Republicans by demonizing "the opposing team" as it were -- while at the same time refusing to countenance any substantial critique of his own Party, replete though it is with sins of both omission and commission. His plan seems to be: First the Republicans must be defeated, and then maybe the Democrats can get their own house in order. I think he's probably been reading the program bass-ackwards.
native
Politics as pro wrestling.
EDIT to add I agree with the points you're making 100%.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
You have a compatriot
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
That's who I was thinking of :)
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
My second sig line
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@gulfgal98 Gulfgal, you're
You're really lucky to have met Cornel West. There aren't many famous people I still trust, but I trust him.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I felt so lucky
He was scheduled to speak at FSU that evening and asked to stop by our occupation before hand. I feel so fortunate to be in the right place at the right time.
And also, thank you for allowing me to use your quote as part of my sig line.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@Dr. John Carpenter Wrestling is more
But no, you're not alone.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@gulfgal98 Dig it!!!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
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Locked in Mortal Combat
RasPUTIN The Raging Russian
and
TRUMP THE TERRIBLE
VS
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native
Tonight on the Situation Room!
(EDIT: I'm kind of partial to The Iron Trump, myself. And besides, Trump and The Iron Sheik are both WWE Hall of Fame members.)
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
@native @Dr. John Carpenter One of the
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Me too
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
@Dr. John Carpenter I agree. People
Of course, if you're really smart, you'll know that it's still horrible even if he IS playing a role--but if you know it's pro wrestling, you'll know it's been booked. It's not just that this horrible guy with a horrible character got into the Presidency, either with the help of racists, or BernieBros or millenials, or millenial feminists, or Russians, or Jim Comey, or whatever. He's playing a scripted role. The only reason the CIA wants him out of there is that he's not 100% behind giving them the war they want. He'll be gung-ho in favor of other wars, but isn't, apparently, sufficiently gung-ho about going to war against Russia.
That said, his role of wrestling heel is proving invaluable to the establishment, to the point where I wonder what they'll do without him. Can they afford to impeach him? Without his absurdity to contrast themselves to, they have zero credibility and most of the public is likely to simply tune them out.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
First, I hate guns, and you
(First, I hate guns, and you probably wouldn't want to put me by myself in charge of regulating them if you like them at all. I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, just wanted to make my position on those instruments of death clear so nobody thinks I'm in any way happy about anybody getting shot or shot at.)
I'm almost afraid to put ideas in their heads, but have any of the neoliberal pearl clutchers or their pet media dragged out the "Bernie loves the NRA" bullshit they tried to use back during the primaries yet? I haven't read the hit pieces yet and may not because I'm not sure I can physically handle the anger and despair that these things will cause. I'm still trying to recover from the election itself as well as the actual horrible things that the Tweeter-in-Chief and his cohorts are attempting to do and in some notable cases doing, so my health doesn't have a lot of room left for this particular shitstorm if I get too up close and next to it.
If I take a step back, it's almost fascinating how differently the two sides of the duopoly coin continue to treat their unruly "wings". The Republicans have for some time been seeing the monster they created by using an Astroturf mat large enough to turn the entire map of old Dixie into an enormous interstate football field turn around and primary them and in their ultimate revenge, foist the Current Occupant of the White House on them, but they still need that base and know it, so they don't insult them in public.
Meanwhile, back in NeoLib / Clinton-World, there isn't a bucket big enough in the universe to catch the boiling streams of contempt and blame they continue to heap on those of us who have seen through their mendacious hypocrisy. Every time I read the word "meritocracy", I involuntarily retch. If that's what they were going for, it worked. Meanwhile, I agree with those who are saying that this current upswell of slander and idiotic-attempted-association is likely to grow even if, as I deeply hope, it doesn't work. Their best skill as seen by ClintonFail 1.0 and 2.0 is to double-down on what didn't remotely succeed the first time.
I guess they're hoping to keep any more of those Republican voters who don't like Trump that they thought would lead them on to victory from seeing that Bernie and others with similar policies actually know what they're talking about and want to work together to make their actual lives that they're living now better. If we're all one Tweet or Facebook rant away from having a shootout at the local park... (Oh, do please note that the dear Republicans that all of the Neoliberal Democrats love so dearly were terrorized while practicing "America's Pastime". I know it's almost certainly a coincidence as a sport played outdoors at this time of year, which made the shooter's targets more vulnerable than if they had been doing some indoor activity like pretending to legislate.)
... well then, no unhappy undecided voter wants to be associated with such dangerous radicals as ourselves. I really, really hope it doesn't work now, and I think as time goes on, such propaganda will continue to lose its power.
People have begun to see the man behind the curtain, and they aren't going to be distracted by the big scary head on the screen, even with the pyrotechnics and smoke and the volume turned up to eleven, forever.
He's still hiding back there,
but nowadays he has to run from place to place in order to stay hidden.
native
Oh yes, big BINGO
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
@lizzyh7 not sure it's going to
what I'm most concerned about right now is making sure we don't start shooting each other
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Rec'd X 1000!!
Great comment!! You need to turn it into a diary!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Ah! Moosetits & Co. are throwing their weekly hissy and banning
some more of its paying (or clicking) customers along with it.
That just doesn't sound like a very good 'business' strategy to me.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa