Obamacare implodes in Iowa
Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 05/04/2017 - 11:17am
The news media may be talking about a possible House vote today on repealing Obamacare (note: it'll never pass the Senate), but Obamacare simply won't be an option in most of Iowa next year.
The vast majority of counties in Iowa could have zero insurers on the ObamaCare exchanges next year after another company announced it may not participate in 2018.
Medica said in a statement Wednesday it would pull out of the exchanges if Congress does not move quickly to stabilize the markets.
Aetna and Wellmark Blue Cross & Blue Shield announced last month they would pull out of Iowa's individual insurance market next year.
If Medica leaves, all but five counties in the state would have no insurers to choose from on the exchanges.
Obamacare in Iowa wasn't even on the radar a month ago. Neither was Virginia, until this morning.
Aetna on Wednesday announced that it plans to exit the Virginia individual insurance market both for Affordable Care Act exchanges and off-exchange plans.
About 16 counties in Tennessee will also have no insurers on the exchanges next year.
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Latest Ryancare
rationing health care by class
They are pushing for selling over state lines.
A pet Republican project. Then, like with credit cards, they can shop for the state with the least regulations and oversight.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Captive Market Profits? Money Be Damned! They Won't Have Any
government controls over them. It is just a perversion of the market, and they won't be standing for it.
Personally I think we should revoke their corporate charters in America for this kind of action.
"OK, Medica, you don't want to service Iowa? Take your business to China.
Bye, Felicia.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
It's time to start over--and I don't mean just
with a new health care bill. The USA is a FUBAR fascist nation that would rather subsidize health insurance companies and bomb other nations than do whatever it takes to provide health that that is not just named "affordable" but truly is affordable.
the label on the box
The label on the box reads: "Fresh Chocolate Cake".
The actual contents of the box is spoiled surströmming! EEEEeeeeuuuwww!!
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
House
Well did pass the House.
Regarding Senate, I guess I'm not overly familiar with certain procedures. Sometimes only 51, oops now need 60, now back to 51, so not certain I guess here.
Strife, I'm not real familiar with
the technicalities either, but I'm thinking that it's mostly budgetary legislation that can be pushed thorough using the reconciliation procedure. Also, I 'think' that when that is used, the terms of the bill expires at the end of a 10-year period.
One example, GWB's deep tax cuts--remember, it was up to 'O' to kill, or to extend those cuts a few years ago.
(If I've screwed that up, please, someone correct me.)
I might add, only a day or two ago, in answer to a reporter, McConnell said that he's not in favor of implementing a nuclear option to apply to general legislation. From what I've read, he is an institutionalist, so, maybe he meant it.
Mollie
"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures--they give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive."--Gilda Radner
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went."--Will Rogers
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I believe, but am not certain, that both the House and the
Senate do have a super majority requirement for some kinds of votes, but don't quote me on that.
However, I do know that any vote the other side wants to try to stop enough to filibuster needs 60 votes. It used to be an even higher percentage (2/3 or 67%), but the Senate amended its rules to 3/5 or 60%)%. However, it's a faux filibuster now. Used to be that Senators actually had to talk the whole time (and stay awake). Then, they decided not to be so hard on themselves. Now, I think they give notice of intent to filibuster, or something of that sort.
To end the filibuster (achiever cloture), the vote of 3/5 of the Senate is required. Inasmuch as there are 100 Senators, that works out to the vote of 60 of them. Once cloture is achieved, however, the Senate goes ahead to vote on the actual bill. Then, the vote of 51 Senators (or, in the case of a tie, 50 Senators plus the V.P. is usually enough to vote on the bill itself.
If both Republicans and Democrats are willing for a bill to come to a vote, then no one filibusters and you only need a simply majority to pass or vote down most bills. (I say "most" only because I do think some votes, but the nature of what is being voted on, need more than a simple majority to carry but, again, I'm not 100% sure of that.)
Don't you get it?
Everyone has to have credit cards and everyone has to have insurance. Soon everyone will "have" to carry $50k in debt and the price of everything will go up by 50% because "insurance will pay for it" and companies will charge whatever they want; the insurance companies will just raise their premiums.
Before that happens everyone should read "Fanshen", it's still in print.
On to Biden since 1973
You could be reading out of the biblical Book of Revelation.
The gist is something like, as the world is ending, no one will be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast (meaning the anti-Christ). Some of the televangelists who literally make a career out of parsing Revelations to describe the "end times" to us ignorant and unanointed folk (/sarcasm) have said that credit cards were the first step to buying and selling with the mark of the beast. (They sure so help government track us!)
And, what could be a beastlier economic/government system than fascism?
Insurance and loans/credit cards due raise the price of stuff
You are correct. It's why college is so unaffordable. Why housing is so high. Why healthcare is so high. in some way, Loans and credit cards distorts the market's supply and demand. The demand at the prices that are asked wouldn't be there is it wasn't for leverage.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho
The Senate will amend, but I do not put it past
McConnell to use the"nuclear option" again. He did it for a Supreme Court Justice. What's to stop him from doing it for the health care bill?
One would hope McConnell's constituents would stop him
From using the nuclear option. We'll see if they are completely devoid of compassion and empathy for the people they're supposed to serve. That should help us all come together as a 99% caucus.
Beware the bullshit factories.
The worst thing the GOP could do
is to pass Ryancare. The voters would punish them.
The worse thing the Dems could do is to help the GOP.
Drip...Drip...Drip...
That's the sound of Obama's legacy (what little he has)and signature legislation slowly dripping away.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Pelosi still against single-payer
Medicare for all has 108 cosponsors
Nancy Pelosi still doesn't support it.
Health is a personal responsibility.
You may believe it's a right but I believe it's a personal responsibility. Just like climate change is a personal responsibility. "Ask not what healthcare and climate change regulations can do for you but what you can do for your health and climate change"
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho
Whatever healthcare is
All those countries with universal healthcare are able to provide it at lower cost and no extortion.
Beware the bullshit factories.