Let's really mix it up. Jefferson Airplane.
Submitted by EdMass on Sat, 02/18/2017 - 6:32pm
My position is that aside from the Dead's live shows, the Jefferson Airplane ruled that time and place.
What I can't decide is if "After Bathing at Baxters" or "Volunteers" is the better album. Yes. album. Remember vinyl? Oh never mind.
Where's OPOL when I need him?
Anyway, peace. And remember, "No man is an island, he's a peninsula."
Paul's gone. Grace, Jack, Jorma are still kickin' Crap, we were supposed to kick this out of the park before we were 30. Oh well. Life on the Planet.
Oh, I say Baxters.
Alright, I cannot embed 2 albums... ;-(. Go to the YouTubes if you need Volunteers. Also, no poll thingy I can find...
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This could not be more important in this world today
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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Volunteers - hands down
Can be hard to separate the Airplane and The Dead, they so often appeared on the same bill. Free concerts in the Panhandle, $3 Fillmore/Avalon/Winterland shows . . . .
If you don't know what you want, you deserve what you get.
Ahhh... Jefferson Airplane...
The always on time airline...
My 1st concert I attended...
$4 General Admission...
The Good Old Days...
Howard C. Greene...
Sgt. Dow Jones...
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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Surrealistic Pillow, IMO, was their BEST album. I have it
on CD and I play it every now and again.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
this is the correct answer
I was a bit disappointed when I first saw them live (in New York) because Surrealistic Pillow is very song oriented but their show was full of long jams...which I was never into. There are only a few long jams that hold my attention all the way through. East-West by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band is one.
Anyway, I got to San Francisco in 1970, I believe. At the time I felt it was way too late, being a full three years past the Summer of Love. It was early enough to see one particular show that would probably interest some here. I think the New Riders of the Purple Sage opened, followed by Hot Tuna. It could have been the other way around. The next group up was Quicksilver Messenger Service. After that set the Airplane came on and then the Dead closed the show. Hmmm...googling says there was a show at Winterland with that lineup on Oct. 4, 1970 but that the Dead opened. I suppose that's possibly the show I saw and I remember it incorrectly. That date makes sense, though. I was a student at Antioch then and we were either on campus or at some sort of study related job in quarters, meaning they started in January, April, July or October. So I would have arrived there Oct. 1st.
By then I was used to what the Airplane did in their live shows. That night was enjoyable, even with the jamming but I still prefer the recordings that feature the songs.
I couldn't decide which song off that record to post.
For as 'far out' as they were (White Rabbit) it always struck me how honest and sensitive they could be. I almost posted Coming Back to Me or this one...
EDIT: spelled couldn't correctly
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
we both like the Marty Balin songs
Coming Back to Me is my favorite on the album. I, like a lot of young guitarists, learned how to play Embryonic Journey. Not as well as Jorma though.
Hmm, I can't imagine the Dead
Hmm, I can't imagine the Dead opening for anyone by 1970. Generally they would be the band that would run the show into dawn and close it out. Curious about that show though because I think having Quicksilver and The Dead on the same bill would be fantastic.
If you don't know what you want, you deserve what you get.
the Dead & Quicksilver?
I don't recall a bill like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did play together a bunch early on. I do remember Cippolina sitting in with them during one of those all-night jams in I think '77, and I don't think I missed any Dead or Garcia Band show in the Bay Area from about '74 thru '77.
right, I don't remember it that way
I have read comments by people saying they did open. Yet for all these years my mind has told me it was the order I mentioned. And I was not on anything!
chicken on a unicycle helps remember Winterland shows
here's their list, first band listed headliner: http://www.chickenonaunicycle.com/Winterland%20Shows.htm
Yeah, I don't know. For sure I thought my first Winterland trip was Yes headlining in '73, but I have zero memory of Poco or Focus.
Maybe we showed up late, I remember being "on the left side" balcony for it. Steve Howe made my hair stand up, kinda felt like the top of my head was coming off during All Good People. Wow that was great. Then there was Fillmore West, wish I was old enough to remember the Avalon Ballroom, I started young but not that young. heh
PEACE
You weren't on anything?
--well, there's your problem!
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
"on anything" use your imagination ;)
"left side balcony" comes from this tour, went to see The Ox and stayed for these guys I never even heard of yet. After about 30 seconds I was all like wtf?! The whole place was on the ceiling!
blow your face out
Surrealistic Pillow would probably still be the favorite...
...though ALL of their albums had at least a few great songs.
Then again, there was this absolute favorite, possibly a result of all that acid I was eating...
Anyone for Hot Tuna?
Jorma & Jack in 2015. Still got it.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
NO Jefferson Airplane thread is complete without...
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
We should do a poll on our first major concert attendance
Mine was The Who, can't recall the year. Cincy, over an hour from my hometown.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
concerts of yore
Not sure which was the first, Fleetwood Mac, Jethro Tull, Dave Brubeck, Peter Frampton, Neil Diamond all clumped together in a time space. Goose Lake. California Jam was after. Some early shows of future stars - Bob Seeger, Alice Cooper, Mitch Ryder. Then the memory fades out.
question everything
I can't remember all the concerts/festivals I attended. Did
PLENTY of chemical cocktails though.
LOL. I do recall the first shows. 1965: Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Beach Boys (striped surfin' shirts and Brian Wilson before he collapsed). 1966: The Beatles (they were seriously burned out and it showed). I have Surrealistic Pillow on vinyl, too. There is no filler on it; every tune is righteous. I lived outside of Washington, D.C., and then my family returned to the Space Coast (east central FL). I always envied people who lived in San Francisco, Chicago, and NYC cos that's where all the Biggies of Rock/R and B played. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
"White Rabbit" --
one of the greatest tunes ever recorded. Gracie out there, no holds barred, singing her lungs out -- and the rest of the group just tryin' to keep up. What a "sur-realistic" and eye-opening experience for a snot-noser in 1968 --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
Jack is considered a god
In the bass playing world, and rightly so. Unfortunately many of the younger players are losing touch with their heritage. That seems to be the way of the world.
Enjoy every sandwich. (ripwz)
I'll go with Baxter's,
closest thing I've ever heard to an acid trip on vinyl.
Anybody remember Blows Against the Empire ?
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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Yuppers
But than again that was the Starship. Saw them live in the Boston Orpheum on that tour...
Sunrise. Surprise!
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
"Volunteers", of course --
Just Because --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
We can be together
If for no other reason, it was the first and maybe only time I have heard the work "motherfucker" used on national television (Johnny Carson).