40 years of science destroyed by one old magazine article
You can't fool George Will. Scientists are just progressives who are looking to consolidate power in Washington.
“The whole point of global warming is it's a rationalization for progressives to do what progressives want to do, which is concentrate more and more power in Washington, more and more Washington power in the executive branch, more and more executive branch power in independent czars and agencies, to micromanage the lives of the American people. Our shower heads, our toilets, our bathtubs, our garden hoses -- everything becomes involved in the exigencies of rescuing the planet.”
Sounds like an open and shut case to me. Scientists from all around the world are in a global conspiracy to seize power in the United States. Perfectly logical.
What? You want proof? George Will has proof!
Gwynne was the science editor of Newsweek 39 years ago when he pulled together some interviews from scientists and wrote a nine-paragraph story about how the planet was getting cooler.
Ever since, Gwynne's "global cooling" story – and a similar Time Magazine piece – have been brandished gleefully by those who say it shows global warming is not happening, or at least that scientists – and often journalists – don't know what they are talking about.
Fox News loves to cite it. So does Rush Limbaugh. Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., has quoted the story on the Senate floor.
That one article in 1975 was so brilliant, that it has managed to disprove over 33,000 scientifically researched papers written since.
Forbes used it as evidence of what the magazine called "The Fiction of Climate Science."
If one magazine article from 39 years ago, buried on page 64, doesn't prove that the world was paralyzed in fear of a new ice age, what does?
Just recently:
Lou Dobbs on Fox News: "This cycle of science… if we go back to 1970, the fear then was global cooling. "
Rush Limbaugh: "I call [global warming] a hoax… A 1975 Newsweek cover was gonna talk about the ice age coming. So they're really confused how to play it."
Sean Hannity on Fox News: "If you go back to Time Magazine, they actually were proclaiming the next ice age is coming, now it's become global warming… How do you believe the same people that were predicting just a couple decades ago that the new ice age is coming?"
Donald J. Trump: "This very expensive global warming bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing.…"
Just recently the Washington Times has announced the frightening discovery that it gets cold in the winter.
I don't want to sound alarmist, but isn't it about time that we become a little concerned that if the scientific community is in such a united, global konspiracy to seize power in the United States, that they would fake their research data on such a massive scale, that there is simply nothing they aren't capable of?
Never before in history has the scientific community engaged in such a complex, long-term plot against one nation.
When you think about it, there is only one logical conclusion: we must declare war on scientists before it is too late.
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Soon the periodic table will be replaced by the four elements
Earth, air, fire and water.
Radium is good for you
Quarter, dime, nickel, and penny.
Yep. And the Earth was created in 4004 BC.
P.S. The dinosaurs did not die out in the Flood because the well-known science journal Genesis says they were on the Ark. Maybe the cave people ate them all or maybe they died out because their brains were too small for their bodies.
And that's why we don't have
no unicorns.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Factual scientific information about unicorn extinction
I love that song. What made dragons like Puff the Magic one go extinct?
. . .to this very day. nt
The Russians
killed them all off.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Crazy Horse was my first hero.
And the best.
Not all. Putin has kept some breeding pairs at his secret
residence hidden deep in the Urals.
Tender young ones are made into kozaki zharennyi porosenok and served at his special dinners in the Kremlin. The horns are ground up to make unicorn dust. Putin uses this dust for teleportation so he is readily able to infiltrate any of the security agencies in America and get them to do his biding. Even the Oval office is not out of reach.
I loved
that song! The Irish Rovers!
peace
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
Then how come I have no unicorns?
Heck, I ate one of those dinosaurs last night
I think it was called a "chicken".
One brontosaurus fed an entire cave people clan
for 5 years.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Yep. Niven and Pournelle even wrote a whole novel on it.
Course, they did use the sources cited rather than the article, but it was still crap science which assumed that the only thing preventing an ice age was human activity.
Was also as insulting as HELL to everybody who wasn't an SF fan. I suppose that was the point, but damn it was embarrassing to read. Read like a teen dropout's revenge fantasy on those that had ignored him.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Which novel?
Thought I had read them all.
Fallen Angels.
Essentially it's a dystopia where the "left-wing" has taken over.
Of course, the left is all science denying environmentalist new-agers who are obsessed with shutting down space travel and banning SF. (No, I'm not kidding. As I said, Fan-wank)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Thanks
I did read it, but I think i was a little disappointed in it. Same with the sequel to inferno. I re-read Inferno (still great), then the sequel, and it just didn't jell for me.
The reason some feared global cooling
As I recall, the fear that some had that the earth would cool due to human activity was based on the notion that particulates, sulfuric acid, etc. released into the air would cause cooling in excess of the warming effects caused by carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses. I think the global cooling proponents made honest arguments as opposed to the crap promoted by the pseuds hired by the fossil fuel industry and their lackeys today. Their projections have turned out to be wrong, however, at least in part due to the efforts we have made to remove particulates and acids from the air. As for George Will, he secretly served as a debate coach for Ronald Reagan and then wrote a column exclaiming how well Reagan had done in the aforementioned debate. That, along with thousands of additional things, completely disqualifies him as a journalist or commentator. His qualifications to be an ass, however, are indisputable.
That's right. Good comment.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
What's the problem...
everybody knows science is just opinion.
Don't you just love it when the talking heads explain they just don't believe the hoax of global warming.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
LOL, my mother
Limbaugh lover that she was. She said that to me one day, "I just don't believe in that" and I just burst out laughing at her. She used to not only listen live to Limpdick, but she taped his shows so she could go to sleep listening to them. My sister and I knew we'd never get her back to rational, not with that shit being soaked through her brain during sleep! Sleep learning. Sigh. I've got some of his books she bought, which will burn one day in a fire pit, as I promised her they would.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Living in the capital of climate change denialism,
I can report that the only comment I've made that brought some pause to the denier was that change is happening too fast for it it be attributable to normal ebbs and tides of historical climate change.
And that is true. The cascading effects are even far faster than scientists predicted. Personally, I believe the critical mass point is well behind us now, and we are pretty much screwed.
Good luck to the 1% with their confidence that at least they will be able to survive what with technology and environmental controls in their fortresses. They know they have a better chance when most of the rest of us are eliminated from this overpopulated, overly burdened planet.
I think you are correct...
even if we were to approach climate like it was WWIII (as we should), I think we are past the tipping point and accelerated climate change is a certainty. Given our likely path over the next four years re-enforces my opinion.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Time Magazine??
Known for cutting edge research....
Swill makes Friedman Unit seem like a genius.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Deniers rely on reporters, not scientists nor prof, journals
I remember a number of years ago, one of the most cited websites denying human caused climate change excursively used articles in daily newspapers, magazines, columnists, etc to bolster climate denial. Many times of course, the reporters did not understand what some scientist/researcher was saying, or exaggerated certain parts, use the wrong point, etc. In effect you had non-experts trying to write about what some expert said--and then being attacked. These types of attacks NEVER reference original source materials.
In the case of Will, I looked into it a long time ago. I found the original science articles and from I remember the authors were speculating about certain facts and speculated that a cold spell might be coming. This was all made into hysterical headlines about a new ice age. There was absolutely no consensus among scientists at the time that we were entering a new ice age--that is a straw man created by Will.
The article Will points to and is very old in terms of the data collected, new technologies, and the research of people in areas such as marine biology. It is like citing research on evolution before the discovery of DNA. I seriously doubt if the authors were asked about it, if they would say they were making hard definite claims.
Mrs. Bollox
is a research scientist. The 'science reporting' in newspapers...... or the media in general, drives her batty.
Having Swill commenting on climate change? You might as well employ a baboon. Frankly, he should stick to baseball until retirement (do pundits ever retire?).
Loathsome little twerp (and apparently his ex-wife agrees).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
MrWebster, priceless comment
.
Do George Will and R. Limburger believe in DNA? No probably not because Watson and Crick were just a couple of Lefty Psychos trying to take over the world through chemistry.
Has any one them ever
even registered in a straight science class? Taken a semester of calculus, maybe?
Just wondering. A semester with Plato, for dog's sake. WTF?
Who are these people and what are they doing to us?
They can have my showerhead
when they pry it from my cold, wet, fingers.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I'm stuck on that one, too.
Why is George Will's poster-child-style fear of government regulation fixated on:
This is a cry for help, if I ever heard one.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
.......Also, too
That ancient Time Magazine article. Definitely fake news.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
We don't do a good job teaching and it is getting worse.
The central problem is that instead of teaching understanding the system stresses knowledge. Most teachers are not prepared (or do not have the time) to allow students the opportunity to experience the process of doing science. Learning is a participatory process and most students are not allowed the time and resources to participate.
You are correct from a scientist view. Us smartasses! Prob Dem!
The gift of teaching should be teaching students to think. Not by rote, not by simplistic explanations: ask why? Ask how. Ask But...
I was an early FAIL at teaching lab genetics, TAs were given the script and let loose. Only once did I see most of a class get a clue. But I did not want to be a teacher then; later I might have been a naturalist, and was good one-on-one to get small children interested in the world at their feet, or in the sky. I might still be able to charm children with questions.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Your pseudonym suggests you would be a natural.
We have many volunteers at our sanctuary every spring just because they love being here. Sunset on the Platte River with 40 thousand Lesser Sandhill Cranes is one of the most vibrant educational experiences you can imagine.
Heart thrill the first ime I saw a Sandhill crane above my house
They are also very cool as dawn and dusk in fields. Wisconsin. Boriscleto reports they have made in East to NY. I have seen Greater Egrets here, along with many long lenses.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Indeed they have
Not in huge numbers, but they are here.
But I have to travel about an hour west to see them
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
The level of education in the US is like post-Soviet Cent. Asia
Grandparents better educated than their grandchildren.
Peace and love be with you, reader.
At the elementary level especially, but to K - 12 group
in general, a big problem is that the teacher does not ( and realistically can not) possess understanding of what she must teach. This is not a slam at the teacher.
But the foundation of mathematics, for example is a not a list of facts to be memorized. Same for any science.
Most good elem. teachers are competent and comfortable on Language Arts side of their curriculum. If they want to go for it, there are opportunities to pick up useful information. (which they can actually understand)
The situation in math, for example, is very different. Most teachers take a single one-semester survey course past basic algebra. Usually the teacher does not consider it to be a real course, and "allowances" are made for the audience. That means it is not a math course at all, but is a course"about mathematics". It is never required that a "teacher trainee" understand basic math with any depth at all. In fairness, the students are never given what they really want and need- a clear presentation of basic principles. Such a thing is tough to find anywhere.
My view is you can not give to another what you don't first have yourself.
How hard is that?
But the foundation years of our educational system run counter to this, in my opinion. thx.
Dear George
It's not just progressives that want more power in DC. Every red blooded American, we the people, want to consolidate power in our government. We want that power returned to us, along with the incredible wealth that has been stolen from us.
Your right , by George.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Someone needs to twist George Will's bowtie
And put him out of our misery. He's almost as bad as David Brooks or Thomas Friedman...
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Naomi Klein as a whole chapter on the right's fear
The Right is Right: The Revolutionary Power of Climate Change
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Many good lessons from this article
The first, in my opinion, is the distinction between right-wing "hierachialism" versus "egalitarianism. Hierarchies depend upon, amongst other things, subservience to authority even when that authorianistic is destructive of the common good. Upset that subservience, i.e., surrender of cognition to the "opinion makers et enforcers" is necessary to maintain the authoritarian (hierarchical) ;pretext of knowledge which flies in the face of reality. Let's acknowledge that Limburger, Swill and cohorts cannot deny the power of mother nature.
As I learned in geology, don't fuck with Mother Nature. We are insignificant ants in the global time frame--all 6000 years of it.
Here's a key section:
This was the great hope of the psychedelic movement because of the power of psychedelics to shatter worldviews. It was the Establishment's fear of that power that led to such a quick and universal banning of those substances despite the objections--again--of scientists and healers who had demonstrated that these substances were useful in many ways. As one scientist pointed out, it was the Army that started LSD research by giving it to soldiers and observing its effects. The problem was that the first thing they found was that the soldiers didn't want to be soldiers any more. That's a hell of a recommendation right there from the standpoint of humanity and peace.
That's part of what lay behind Gracie's and Abbie's intention to conduct a little acid test in the East Room during Tricia's Finch College reunion. As Kesey points out in his rap below, psychedelics have the power to show you every shitty thing you've ever done, then open the door to make positive changes in yourself. It's why LSD was such an effective treatment for alcoholism.
We're living in the midst of mass insanity and desperate for a cure.
[video:https://youtu.be/pacbkF1KWCI]
And we all rage against this!
I dutifully sort out garbage from my home and office, recycling paper and plastic and bottles, and it just makes me feel like a complete and total fool, while Big Oil is busy. I am a Texan. I notice "things".
I compost waste. That helps.( My goddam flower bed.) We people will sort out garbage and overcome Big Oil and George Will and will even buy cars with all kinds of emissions and fuel efficiency gimmicks. Yeah...we will!
Meanwhile, Exxon IS our new cabinet.
The mask is off.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It's not going away just because George Will denies it
He will just look dumber and dumber and his kids will resent him more and more as climate change accelerates. Same is true for all of the climate change denying idiots in the Trump administration. They are just making the depravity of profit-over-people, more and more obvious, which is a good thing.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Just seems appropriate here:
Full episode: http://dai.ly/x2ee3q9
Clip:
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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
I've eliminated all MSM input into my life.
Even the stuff I don't agree with. ex TOP'ers have a habit of only quoting MSM garbage.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho
Post Truth-Lies are immortal
In a post truth universe nothing is true including this statement.
Therefore lies, being untrue, are correct but not true.
Being subject to no truth in the universe, lies are immortal.
So George Will was correct even though he lied like a Yellerdog and the magizine article will dog science forever.