EDIT: Added 'on'. What happened to it the first time? It was there for a second.

Thu, 11/17/2016 - 5:51pm — WindDancer13

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I think Sanders is a big picture guy while most of the rest

of us nitpick at all the crumbs.

Yup. And people should check out history, including the brave souls who acted as 5th columnists while 'consorting' with the Nazis and being called traitors by the people they worked to help save at the expense of their reputations and often at the cost of their lives.

People talk about this offer as though it was a sure thing, which it assuredly was not.

The problem was that Jill had no authority to offer the Green Party's Presidential candidate spot to Bernie or to any outsider: she apparently had some vague idea of trying to convince the rest of the Green Party to change the rules to allow this - where, going by what I've gathered of the way the Green Party functions, this would have gone over like trying to herd cats with a lead balloon.

Bernie would simply have lost all chance to keep the message of what could and should be done for the people in the public eye and mind, as he could still do while 'campaigning for Hillary' in carefully phrased messages reminding all informed listeners that Hillary might 'understand' what needed to be done but would never do it. He also mentioned that people needed to vote their consciences and that he had no problem with '3rd parties' while warning that Trump would be a disaster.

Who would know better than Bernie that no informed person could possibly vote for the Clintons?

Why is virtually nobody here, that I've seen so far, wondering how many Green votes were stolen/Green voters suppressed in this election?

Why are so many people apparently so outraged with Bernie for not being able to overcome the global monster which few other politicians dared to stand up to at all, all on his own, and for using strategy to work his way into a position where he could potentially still do good for the people, that they would toss aside all good he would fight for and likely have more success in achieving than anyone else would think possible, as he has done throughout his life, in order to further strengthen their billionaire/corporate/self-serving enemies? This amounts to self-sabotage all too typical, as has been repeatedly evident, of the Left...

Edited to remove a redundant word and to replace a typo-ed letter.

But 1)They don't like overthrowing the government (ironic), and 2)they know that, even if they wanted to, the 1% outguns them. By a lot.

The American populace may be heavily armed, but the powerful have access to drones, LRADs, microwave, tons of surveillance....going up against the US military is no joke.

Bernie specified that for a winning Presidential candidate to imprison the losing Presidential candidate because of a difference in opinion would be the stuff of which dictatorships are made and I absolutely agree with this.

However, he did not say that she should be pardoned and get off scott-free for any and all crimes she might be found guilty of having committed. Bernie is a master at avoiding answering stupid and impolitic questions in any manner likely to cause pointless repercussions - and the fact remains that issuing a blanket 'pardon' for someone politically powerful and known to be a criminal who has so far evaded trial is also a sign of dictatorship/oligarchy.

Actually, Bernie took the only 'out' which enabled him to avoid conceding to Hillary or releasing his delegates to Hillary at the Coronation. Now, he's still in a position to fight for the people's rights, as he would not have been, had he pointlessly spit defiance at the corporate Dems and their paymasters to be cheated also out of the General Election.

Bernie's been doing this a long time and he hasn't survived by not learning strategies which enable him to 'live to fight another day' and potentially achieve some good for at least some of the most vulnerable of the people which others apparently thought could not be done.

when it comes to corruption.

He's a bit like LIEberman or Hillary. The voting record isn't nearly as hideous as the media appearances and back door deals. His claim to corporate cash fame is that he keeps real, human agenda type solutions at bay.

http://evonomics.com/financialization-hidden-illness-rana-foorohar/

[...] This illness has a name: academics call it financialization. It’s a term for the trend by which Wall Street and its way of thinking have come to reign supreme in America, permeating not just Wall Street but all American business.

[...] to the enormous political power of the financial lobby. It’s a shift that has even affected our language, our civic life, and our way of relating to one another. We speak about human or social “capital” and securitize everything from education to critical infrastructure to prison terms, a mark of our burgeoning “portfolio society.”

This isn’t the way it was supposed to be. Market capitalism, as envisioned by Adam Smith, was supposed to funnel our collective savings into productive investment, via the banking system. But today, deep academic research shows that only around 15% of the money flowing from financial institutions actually makes its way into business investment. [...]

It’s a cycle that increases inequality [...]

Thanks

if the Berners come back out to support him or not. He's back on the road sooner rather than later, likely at a venue near you. Will it be the usual 10,000, or something more like Hillary's "crowds" screaming Bernie! Bernie! My guess closer to 10,000.

Nobody Minds... " Is dead nuts. Wake up and smell the coffee. Bernie is on our side, has always been on our side.