Alpha's Election Night Survival Thread/Live Blog. Now with useful tips! Part Deux!

Same great blog, new faster page.

Well, I just went and voted (Stein, couldn't bring myself to break my pledge to not vote for evil, even to stop Clinton.)

Some interesting anecdotes:

My wife went to vote right after she got off work this morning. She arrived about 20 minutes before the Florida polls opened. She reported that there were only about a dozen people in line and by the time she was done voting there was no line whatsoever.

I decided to wait and go closer to peak time (shortly after 5PM when I figured people getting off work would be arriving to vote) and there was zero line. I walked straight up to the person, surrendered my mail in ballot and then got my approval slip to pick up my ballot. (Was excited to see that my #DemExit to the Green party had already been registered!!! Woohoo!!

On my way in and out to the polling station there was a pair of large black signs with bold lettering saying, "No political advertising, signs, or electioneering beyond this point.

Can you guess what was directly in front of all four signs just past shy of the limit?

4 Trump/Pence signs.

Nowhere in the ride towards my polling place (at a church in a rural neighborhood) I saw ZERO Clinton signs.

Not a one.

About 15 Trump signs on the side of the road and on peoples lawns. (I was somewhat happy to see a couple, "VOTE GREEEN!" signs but only a couple.... Upside? That's a couple more than I saw for Clinton.

Ok, Now for the survival part of this guide.

On my way home from the polls I decided I needed to pick up some necessary supplies for the evening and the morrow.

For our first survival item we are featuring our good friend Alcohol. Ahhh, that stalwart companion that has helped me not give a shit about things in the past, if only for a short time, is going to make a strong entrance tonight I think no matter the outcome.

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Now, as I was pretty sure that even that wouldn't be enough to quite help us get through the evening I had to break into my emergency supplies and bring out the big guns. (One of which you can see on the right side of the screen in the previous photo, however tonight is already necessitating the bringing out of the big guns...)

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However, I fear that even with the above it may not be enough to get the job done so I have the following two items. First, one to pour into my eyes so I don't have to see that smug, arrogant evil smile if she manages to steal pull off a victory.

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And a couple of these to jam into my ears so I don't ever have to hear her voice again:

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(Maybe I can sue the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on those things... But then again, since that's me even if I win I wont get shit, lol!)

Well, I invite you to join me below, share the things you are seeing on the net and in R/L, and tie one on.

First hit is free... Smile

Edited to add this LINK TO PART ONE.

Thanks again to everyone for coming

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Alphalop's picture

Totally worth checking out.

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I project now that the Republicans take the Senate and retain the house as well.

(Props Andre' for the link!)

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Alphalop's picture

Trumps "Odds of winning" went up another 5% to 78%.

Do you think you guys can put in a good word at 538 to land me a job?

Not to toot my own horn, but I think I have done a pretty decent job plotting the trends this election.

The more egotistical and beer fueled side of me wants to shout, "YES! I made Nate my bitch this year!" LoL!

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GreyWolf's picture

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(as Trump's odds have gone up the futures have gone deeper into the red ... )

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Alphalop's picture

I am gave it a lot of thought because I called it a LOOOONG time ago that Trump would have a strong chance of winning despite all the pundits words.

But I also am diversified, I have my very limited (Pre-2008 $38k, which only recently recovered) in stuff that I know will recover, but I will end up with a net of zero growth on investment for the next several years.

I could have shifted it around and gambled but I decided I just didn't care enough to bother following my own advice because in all actuality it is so little that even if I moved everything around and timed it perfectly what would an extra 6 or 8% net me on that small of an initial nut?

It's not like retiring for real is anywhere on my radar anyway. (Not if I have my way at least, I ain't where I want to be yet.) Smile

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movie buff's picture

The parallels are too many to miss. The media 100% on one side, all the celebrities and beautiful people wagging their fingers and telling everyone what they "must" do, the neoliberals cocksure of victory, all the articles written about the opposition's voters treating them like they're strange natives on some just-discovered island.

Oh, and I took a peek at TOP. I couldn't get any of the live threads to load, but there was a doom-and-gloom diary on the sidebar and literally the very first comment was, "Oh my god, my stock portfolio is going to take a beating over this."

There's Orange State for you.

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thanatokephaloides's picture

Oh, and I took a peek at TOP.

Seeking a schadenfreude rush, eh? Smile

I couldn't get any of the live threads to load,

But DK 5.0 is so advanced! And moving everything to the Cloud is just so wonderful!

Yeah right, buddy. Pull my other leg!

I'm grateful to not be there any more. How you kids can stand to go back is beyond my understanding.

Smile

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Alphalop's picture

You know I can't see that word without playing this little ditty!

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA]

I know, but I just can't help it.

I do have some German in me, so I am just embracing my heritage. Smile

Right there with you my friend. lol!

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Oh, and I took a peek at TOP.

Seeking a schadenfreude rush, eh? Smile

I couldn't get any of the live threads to load,

But DK 5.0 is so advanced! And moving everything to the Cloud is just so wonderful!

Yeah right, buddy. Pull my other leg!

I'm grateful to not be there any more. How you kids can stand to go back is beyond my understanding.

Smile

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Oh, and I took a peek at TOP.

Seeking a schadenfreude rush, eh? Smile

I couldn't get any of the live threads to load,

But DK 5.0 is so advanced! And moving everything to the Cloud is just so wonderful!

Yeah right, buddy. Pull my other leg!

I'm grateful to not be there any more. How you kids can stand to go back is beyond my understanding.

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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What a thoughtful individual.

It's funny that many fauxgressives like to go on and on about privilege, yet within their midst, they have fuckers who, when Trump is about to get elected, are more worried about their goddamn stocks than they are about real people. Stay classy, TOP.

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It was BBB, pretty please.

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Alphalop's picture

for top comment.

You Sonofabitch!!! Beer BURNS coming out your nose!

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Trump is winning because HRC is so bad.
They can't blame us Bernie/Stein voters. Or voters who weren't allowed to fucking vote due to reg. fraud.

Clinton is so HATED by Republicans and by honest decent folk and that most Democrats wouldn't vote for her.

It's actually Hillary's fault she is losing. But she and her minions will blame us. That's what they do. But it's all on her. She's. That. Bad.

I can't tell you how many democrats and liberals I know that vowed they would not/could not vote for her. How did they think she would win? Corruption alone?

addition:

My son is autistic and he's freaking out at the thought of Trump being president. A person who has mocked the disabled community. He's been following the news all day (I can't keep him from doing it) He says he's not sad his vote for Stein may make people think he helped Trump. He says it's sad that he couldn't vote for a Democrat.

additional addendum:

My heart is broken. My 24 year old son just asked me if it will now be okay for people to beat and kill him "just because"?

"Mom, will people think it's like legal or something to be able to hurt me or maybe kill me tomorrow just because?"

Now people --- there is nothing to lose in fighting to get all our rights back. You can't even say you respect or honor the Presidency. So who is going to start getting really pissed off?

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And this time, I'm going to own it.
I'm gonna say, Yep, DAMN right we don't have president Clinton because of the third parties. You're welcome.

Then I'm gonna follow it up with

Obama SUCKED, and was a liar, so damn right I didn't want four more years of that crap. Only thing that ever happened under his watch were things he had nothing to do with.

Besides, now you can actually pretend you care about war again, so you know, You're welcome AGAIN.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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I will definitely remind them to thank me that they can be anti-war again.

Congrats to compassion in Florida!!!!!!

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Dragonkat's picture

More so if the cheeto pulls it off.

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See, their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be.

-The Joker-

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LapsedLawyer's picture

pushing that meme already, with Joy Reid saying voting third party was "chic."

Dear Joy;

No it wasn't "chic" that led me to vote Jill Stein, it was her policies and those of the Greens, which were far more in line with this Bernie voters values than those of HRC. It wasn't "chic" at all; it was the fact that HRC is in fact a deplorable person who campaigns, well, deplorably, and expected us to swallow her b.s. about being a "real progressive" when just about every progressive thing she said during the campaign was exactly the opposite of what she'd been saying all those years before (the notable exceptions being her warmongering and Cold War/McCarthyism 2.0 rhetoric). So, no, not "chic"; just voting for something good and not for another "lesser evil."

Oh, and one other thing Ms. Reid: GFY.

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-- John Lennon

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I'm looking at the numbers and I haven't found a single instance where giving Clinton AAAAAAAAAALL of Steins vote would have changed a thing.

But, if Oregon has an unexpected surge of Stein voters it could go the other way and Trump pulls a shocker. Then, Oregon/Stein would be the new Florida/Nader.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

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Right now (about midnight eastern), with about 93% reporting, Trump leads PA by 33,000 votes. Jill Stein has received about 42,000 votes there.

The powers that be will call Pennsylvania 2016 the new Florida 2000, just so they can blame everything on people who dared vote their conscience, instead of bowing before the neoliberal agenda.

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the paradigm they wish to substitute for reality.

I used to say "Never worry about what Republicans will say." Now, I include the Third Wayers. They are similarly dishonest and/or out of touch.

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pswaterspirit's picture

Is very tight. I am sure Stien is the reason.

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featheredsprite's picture

And tell him that, whatever happens, he won't have to be alone. We will all go through this together.

[and give yourself a hug, too. :-)]

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

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Spouse is talking to him about how other states are reporting their votes for Stein like FL and WA. Oregon, our home, went Bernie in the primaries despite registration fraud.

And consider yourself hugged right backatcha Smile

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Granma's picture

They voted against the corruption and crimes of the Clintons. Maybe that Michael Moore clip about the big F*#k you to TPTB was part of it.

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Damnit Janet's picture

it was so wonderful chatting with you the other day!!!! Loved it so much.

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I'm not exactly at a 'low point' in my life but given the fact that I can't be employed I worry about a lot of things. Trumpy Boy isn't one of them.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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I'm not exactly at a 'low point' in my life but given the fact that I can't be employed I worry about a lot of things. Trumpy Boy isn't one of them.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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He's more worried about bullies, ones with badges mostly.

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He is ethnic Chinese(adopted) and says tensions have been high at his school. He went to bed early while many states were still too close to call, so if he wants to take a mental health day, I will not stop him. He goes to college next year and faces some dark years ahead no matter what. This really is a bit of our Brexit - a lot of people have been ignored by politicians and the media and they found a way to get their attention.

I am pretty stunned, I must say - and I was just planning to sign up for Medicare in the morning. I expect a Trump win will earn up the contempt of the whole world, and this election cycle has shown our political system/oligarchy has earned it. No matter the outcome, there will be problems to fix tomorrow.

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I am so sorry that our sons have to live in such a country where they have to be afraid in the land of the free...

We will just have to be ever more vigilant to be kind and available to people who are going to need help.

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I dropped by TOP to feel their pain Smile A couple of rants about 3rd party votes by Bernie or Busters. Gary Johnson and Jill Stien got 268,000 votes in Florida as of about 8:00pm.

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thanatokephaloides's picture

Now people --- there is nothing to lose in fighting to get all our rights back. You can't even say you respect or honor the Presidency. So who is going to start getting really pissed off?

November 9, 2016: beginning of the Age of Pitchforks and Torches.

And the System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether.

Diablo

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Damnit Janet's picture

when people have nothing left to lose...

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thank heaven, the vast majority of people are not very bad people.

Might that help?

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thank heaven, the vast majority of people are not very bad people.

Might something like that help?

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than if Hill won in a landslide - in that case the deplorables would have felt disenfranchised and who know how many would have picked up weapons. Now they can calm down, their hero is doing well.

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I am out of beer.
Oh, and TRUMP is very SCARY!
Let the Clintons slink away to a small island.
Far away.

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Maybe that's why the Foundation transferred over a billion dollars to Quatar or someplace over there recently?

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But have a job interview over the phone--basically a screening interview to see if I go forward. My job was transferred to India thank you paid off politicians like Clinton. We know about the large scale bribes of various heads of states, but it was not just countries, but others also. The Clinton Foundation also got money from major Indian outsourcers--the head of one of them said that American workers were essentially fuck ups. Any American high tech worker regardless of race, creed, gender who votes for Clinton is asking for their jobs to be either replaced by H1b visa holders or moved to India. But high tech bosses want her.

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I hope you're already in bed, so properly rested. What a crazy stupid country.

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were allowed to be the candidate. Suppose, for a second, that Bernie was elected. If he were to go the way of Obama, how could the people ignore the oligarchy fix? Looks like he uncovered it anyway. The people, they are not in their happy place.

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ThoughtfulVoter's picture

and I hope he gives Bernie some cabinet post or something. They are both the anti-establishment vote here.

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ggersh's picture

I never thought of that, but now it has been uncovered and the people are awake, so optimistically it's only 4 years of ????? and a D a true D rises from the ashes

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

CambridgePulsar1919's picture

...at Crooks and Liars, and anyone suggesting Bernie would have beaten Chump is getting the 'sure, like a socialist Jew could win if Hillary couldn't'.

The level of stupidity and denial is astonishing, and yet at this points somehow unsurprising.

sigh.

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'sure, like a socialist Jew could win if Hillary couldn't'.

That's what every poll stated, by large and clear margins.

But the Dem bosses insisted on Hillary instead. Therefore, President Trump.

It's on them, not us.

Sad

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But whaddya expect from a tone-deaf, arrogant, uncaring psychopathic bitch--it's our fault, us deplorables who did'nt fall in line...Hut, two, three, four. Prediction: Bill and Hillary will soon join Jeffrey Epstein on Orgy Island where there are no extradition laws relating to pervs. This will make Rudy Giuliani very sad.

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...at Crooks and Liars, and anyone suggesting Bernie would have beaten Chump is getting the 'sure, like a socialist Jew could win if Hillary couldn't'.

The level of stupidity and denial is astonishing, and yet at this points somehow unsurprising.

sigh.

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Minneapolis???

Okay, not any more, but still, something's afoot.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

TaZsa's picture

My St Paul hood is well represented with Clinton signs. It would history making for MN to go red!

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The states that got taken over by the GOP are being dismantled.

So first the Dems lose and implode, and the GOP wins and implodes 4 years later. The guestion is are we still alive and do we still own anything?

Stein isn't even at 1%. This is all on the Dems for running a Clinton and an establishment insider. Dumb fucks. We told them.

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Add to that 'and a candidate with a sky-high disfavorable ranking who is a known liar'.

Hope all the smug shits who said that no one would elect a Socialist are ready to drink their Hemlock. And if all the Clinton supports who swore that they'd leave the country if Trump wins do it I'm curious, how long will it take them to pack?

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I can barely get into the site on my phone.

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https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/election-2016-live-cannabis-news-co...

showing the initiatives on adult and medical use

Floridas Medical is a GO.

Boston cannabis supporters contemplate Trump win

BOSTON — “If we win Question 4 under a president Trump, it’ll be like winning a bottle of great champagne while boarding the Titanic,” Yes on 4 husband-and-wife team tell Leafly. —Dan McCarthy

“It looks like medical cannabis will get more votes tonight than whoever ends up winning the presidential and U.S. Senate races,” Tom Angell, founder of the advocacy group Marijuana Majority.

And yay to my Oregon Congressman Earl Blumenauer, a longtime legalization proponent! - Me.

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like winning a bottle of great champagne while boarding the Titanic

Can't stop laughing....send help! Smile

We have medical marijuana. I'm voted for legalization in CA. It would be really nice if all adults could have access to it instead of just people like me who have found a cure for their insomnia (wink wink).

My friend Jerry has severely spastic cerebral palsy. Give him a brownie and his world becomes liveable.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

YEAH, MA! We did it.
Also humane treatment for all animals, can't remember the wording of the bill, but we got it!

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Congrats to you all.

Interested if more people voted on marijuana issues than presidential one?

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She was throwing away historical items because she thought they were old fashioned. It was horrifying.

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Game Change describes a meeting in Clinton headquarters. It says the homiest thing in the place is Patty Solis Doyle's conference table, which was the Clintons' family dining table in the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas. I thought, "Probably paid for by Arkansan taxpayers."

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ROFL

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Alphalop's picture

Wow, Just Wow....

I honestly was calling and expecting a Trump victory for some time, but it is really looking like Trump may pull this off, but there is still a chance she can win if she take Nevada.

I assume she will end with CA and VA (But VA is very close) PA will probably go towards her, but I am thinking Florida will counter that.

As it stand? Trump has a 41 point Electoral College lead.

The Clinton Camp has to be in utter chaos right now. They have been so wrapped up in their bubble of inevitability that this has to be a major shock to their system.

Now lets just hope it is a shock to the electoral system and both parties.

Both parties have received a resounding "Fuck YOU!" from the electorate if Trump pulls this off.

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WaveyDavey's picture

I thought I was watching the Season Finale of "Who Want's to be a Millionerror".

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States will be bought and owned by corporations. Workers will become slaves of their corporate state. The US government will be a shell of its former glory, and consist of the people still working in the NSA, CIA, FBI and other military industrial complex. Local police will operate like the MAFIA.

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new?

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But I got a 404 Server Error: Wailing and Gnashing of Teeth Limit Has Been Exceeded.

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PNW Progressive
Nov 08 · 07:41:18 PM

So this live blog is basically just here for all of us to piss and shit ourselves? Not one piece of insightful fucking analysis by kos beyond “this is nerve wracking?” How the fuck were we all so fucking smug and all so fucking wrong? How were we all so fucking soothed by you Kos? Please give us some kind of soul searching. Give us something other than head scratching and snark as we watch our country burn.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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You'll love these!!

Colorado called by several news agencies. Good to have at least ONE blue-leaning battleground go our way easily this night.

As of now, odds are that Trump wins tonight. The markets are crashing at the thought, because everyone knows, except the fucks voting for Trump, that this is a global catastrophe.

Ironically, Iowa is overperforming the polling and benchmarks, though it’s early. If we lose Wisconsin, hold Michigan, but hold Iowa, Clinton wins 275-263. Wouldn’t it be something if Iowa emerged from the polling graveyard to save the Republic?

That said, I wouldn’t count on Iowa… Still need Michigan and Wisconsin to pull through.​

It looks like even Markos knows he's an idiot now!! I'm truly loving it. For the first time in 6 months, I'm actually enjoying what I'm reading over there!! Fuck you Kos! You deserve every thing you're going to get!!

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Mark from Queens's picture

Can't get enough of this sweet stuff...

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
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elenacarlena's picture

The unthinkable just happened
Rant: For all those who think that this election was about "economic woes"
You get the government you deserve
Let's get real, the whole country has turned red for a long, long time
Was Bernie a better candidate for this cycle? Let me count the ways (by our friend Subir!)
We didn't stop the coup
Maybe Bernie would have won
I'm starting to believe this election was about race all along
James Comey's coup d'état worked
How do I face my Muslim students tomorrow?
Etc.

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Mark from Queens's picture

May peek for the first time in months tomorrow, though when I swear off something I move past it for good. Especially like to see subir's piece and related Bernie would have won/post mortems for the DNC, Dem Party and the Clintons.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
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Mark from Queens's picture

Can't get enough of this sweet stuff...

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k9disc's picture

insights to be found there since April.

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detroitmechworks's picture

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE]

Suppression of dissenting ideas doesn't make them GO AWAY...

Which is why banning symbols and speech is the stupidest thing we can do. It just gives symbols power with those that believe in them.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

solublefish's picture

The weakness of Clinton as a candidate is no surprise to anyone here. But who thought THIS would happen?

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elenacarlena's picture

We were saying back in the primaries that a good reason to vote for Bern is his better chance against Trump.

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lotlizard's picture

Bernie versus Trump would have been been “outsider versus outsider” at a moment in our national political psychodrama heavily favoring the figure of an outsider taking on the establishment.

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Mark from Queens's picture

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

solublefish's picture

"It Trump wins, it's going to be a national emergency"

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reflectionsv37's picture

I won't be surprised to see Hillary lose Hawaii due to the Stein factor. Progressives are very progressive in Hawaii and Hillary has never done well in Hawaii. Horrendous would be a better word to describe her performance there. Hawaii went well over 70% for Bernie over Hillary and Stein is on the ballot there. I think this may be one state where Stein actually receives a significant number of votes.

On the other side, republicans in Hawaii are full blown, tea parting republicans. They want to change everything in Hawaii that makes up the reasons they want to live in Hawaii but the hate the liberal atmosphere and they always, always vote! There have also been other elections that went republican when there was a split on the democratic ticket.

With Stein on the ballot and Hillary's unfavorable numbers there, I think Stein will pull her biggest percentage of votes in Hawaii. If that happens, it may take away enough votes from Hillary to allow Trump to win. I'd LMAO if Hawaii's 4 electoral votes made the difference in the election!

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Alphalop's picture

different then in the Dems.

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Dark Knight's picture

this entire election may come down to Michigan. If he wins it it's game over.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

will the first of hers I have ever looked forward to.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

I wonder whether some poor smuck is writing one even as we speak? Certainly the need for one was probably something the calculating one never planned for.

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

I'd give it to her to read her concession speech standing in a loaded Manure Spreader...

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