60 Minutes Election Focus Group Goes Foobar

If you want a laugh, go watch the Election Focus Group they ran on 60 Minutes last night. Frank Luntz said he has been doing these for 30 years and has never seen anywhere near this level of anger and disillusionment.

Turns out most people don't like either candidate and man are they pissssssssssed. Biggrin And as pissed as all these people are, they don't seem to know that considering a third party is an option.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-american-voters-on-trump-clinton/


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Hillbilly Dem's picture

This bastard wants me to believe he can't understand why the Frankenstein's monster he helped create is rampaging. Contract On America? Luntz. "Death tax" instead of estate tax? Luntz. Make the word "liberal" sound like you're saying "child molester"? Luntz.

It's harvest time Mr. Luntz. And the seeds were sown by you.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

Almost like it's the people fault that they can't control their emotions. Like these are afterall two perfectly reasonable candidates that just happen to have a few human flaws. I laughed when he lost control and walked away in disgust. Hahahahaha.

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. . . saying they're a large part of why people are angry, he's pointing to those that he -- Luntz -- made a career of manipulating, who lapped up every twisted bit of branding he created for them to swallow. He leaves his own agency out of it, but he's also right that the media deserve as much blame as anyone, for swallowing, with gusto.

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Wink's picture

to swallow with gusto, having been dumbed down, neutered by Rupert, et al.

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that Hillary should be protected from any accountability for cheating.

No, I do not want Trump to bow down and unify. I want him to tear it all down. And I didn't even vote for him.

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I find it oddly encouraging that all are disgusted with the Option A, Option B served up. If only they would allow themselves to consider C and D!

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GOOD! Nobody likes either of these two Bastard/Bitch candidates. Unfortunately they don't appear to be smart enough to help themselves by going third party.

I went for a haircut this week. The two nice ladies who run the salon are both Trump supporters mostly because they hate Hillary. I told them I was voting for Green party and were surprised that the Green candidate was a woman. The MSM has done a good job of obscuring the options for their viewers.

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WaterLily's picture

from just having spent a week with in-laws in southern Indiana, that everyone I talked to there is disgusted, too. (These are usually reliably red voters, but they're embarrassed by Trump and still hate Hillary). Around town, there were a few Trump lawn signs among the local candidates' -- and nothing else.

Sadly, you're also right about the MSM obscuring other options, because most of the same people said their solution would be to not vote for the top of the ticket. One said, "I'm voting for VP, not president." (Which doesn't help).

Watched the 60 Minutes segment last night, and aside from laughing, I kept thinking: "Didn't anyone tell Luntz to straighten his belt?!"

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

;-).

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Mark from Queens's picture

RW Christian zealots will justify anything under the sun in support of anyone who professes to be anti-abortion and/or to having a "personal relationship with Jesus."

Friend just told me the story of his fundamentalist brother who doesn't like Trump necessarily. But says he's "voting for the VP."

Luntz is one sinister psy-ops freak. He creates all the poisonous catch phrases the RW use to control and manipulate their base. "Death panels," "debt ceiling," "anchor babies" "entitlements" and any other slogan we've heard in the past two decades are written up as memos and given to douchebags like Hannity, O'Reilly and the whole of Fox News, who pump them out and into the mainstream vernacular. Mission Accomplished. Goebbels in the modern day.

In this instance however the factual reality could not be ignored. Everyone thinks this election is a complete and total SHAM. I guess they deserve some credit for allowing that truth to be spoken. But of course not without putting a coda on this tv entertainment segment that fulfills his and CBS's duty to run interference and protection for their masters: we must accept the results!

No matter what happens tomorrow the restlessness, anger and malaise will be ever present in the days and weeks and months and years to come, and will only increase. On the upside there's a great opportunity to coalesce the 99% who aren't going to be buying into the false Red/Blue, Dem/Rep paradigm for much longer.

I think this election season broke some things out in the open for all to see which had previously only been manifested as apathy toward a system they knew was rigged but could not prove it. The proof is there this year. The apathy has turned to anger. How to channel that anger into a movement....

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

of public opinion. It was just more of the same propaganda we've been overfed since Bernie didn't exist, and Trump was the only GOP candidate. But this time rather than selling us Hillary, it's meant to make us accept the results that the oligarch pre-ordained long ago. CBS either screened participants to exclude anyone included to vote 3rd party, or they edited out any unflattering truths about the 2-party system and/or about the process. They would sooner cut off their noses than provide a platform for someone inclined to stir us "to mutiny and rage."

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peaceful transition for this election" we're hearing from the videos from Steve Pieczenik (peacenik? hard to deny the possibility that the spooks are goofing on us): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_CYS-KMjM

"We've got this thing, no need to worry, ladies and gents. So keep calm and carry on, no getting ugly, y'hear?"

The PTB may be a teensy bit worried that this election will ignite the country's volatile sentiments and force the show of force they'd rather not be obliged to unveil for Americans who don't yet see the full picture of oligarchs, elites, and the rigged system.

Conclusion: a highly manipulated piece that excluded rejection of the duopoly by excluding third-party voters and pushed acceptance of the Nov. 8 outcome. Obvious, much?

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

independent Commission on Presidential Debates tone> Would invite all national candidates to the debates.

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Except to bork candidate A or B. The Greens never will be a party of more than 10%. Ten percent is big, enough to determine outcomes, but it won't win you any elections. It's just a line on the ballot for a "protest vote." I was gonna vote Green here for the first time, throw them a bone, 'cuz Hillary has NY in the bag (her vote rigging apparatus still in place from the primary), but gonna vote for the Trumpster instead. Just another protest vote.

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WaterLily's picture

I'd be voting Trump as well. Much as typing that makes me vomit.

Thank you for the sacrifice.

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voting for Trump, whom I regard as the lesser evil, but I couldn't come close to doing it. I decided early in the primary season that I'd never again vote lesser evil, never again vote purely AGAINST anyone, only for. And that left me with one candidate who speaks for me, a candidate I'm grateful has given a chunk of her life to give me an alternative to the D and R candidates for prez, who are both unfit for office. Thank you, Jill Stein. #ImWithDrHer

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I might be tempted to vote Trump in the hope that Hillary would lose at least Staten Island.

Before anyone judges the not voting, I cannot walk the one mile (uphill both ways) to the voting place anymore and I will be damned if I spend $20 from my tiny SS check to play a role in this farce.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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I don't care that you aren't voting. I wonder why I am voting at all at this point. But check for rides. Uber in PA is offering free rides to polling places for example. So you may have a free option.

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Cachola's picture

I haven't heard anything. The driver I most often used is a Muammar Gadaffi admirer. I am almost tempted to arrange a ride and talk about Killary with him.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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who destroyed Africa’s strongest economy, whose leader had envisioned a genuinely powerful and effective African Union, in which Black Africa and Arab North Africa had each other’s back instead of letting the West play them off against each other?

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I don't know about my driver, as he's not African-American. As for blacks, probably. Most people don't know about these issues, they hear Gaddafi=terrorist, had it coming, he was going to kill his own people. That is, if they even remember and recognize the name. Also, most voters don't really care about other countries, that's why so many so called feminists can say with a straight face how good Hillary is for women.

Just now I got a message about how John Lewis got his head cracked so I should go vote. And I appreciate what he did, don't get me wrong, but I would appreciated him more when I didn't know how far he was willing to go as the Clintons' bitch.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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just a few years ago. Greeks finally got sick of the bullshit and voted the old corrupt party out. Too bad Greece had to go bankrupt before the people woke the fuck up.

But ok, a third party will never win? We'll see what it takes for that to happen.

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emerge from anything but a fringe (protest vote) party, one of the two major parties has to substantially decline. Becuz a third party has never worked here (and likely never will). And, since the Greens lean Left that would have to be the Dem party that would need to decline. Some say it already has, and i don't argue that it is in decline, but salvageable. Have the Greens even ever elected a candidate to a statewide office? Didn't think so. That's not to say they're irrelevant. Just Very unlikely to win against the two majors.

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I do disagree with you on the Dems being salvageable. Now that they openly steal primaries, I think they've proved they aren't.

The Greens are a placeholder for me right now.

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and the Republican Party.

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edg's picture

The names of the parties changed through the years, but we've always had two opposing parties.

Democratic-Republican Party, originally (1792–98) Republican Party, first opposition political party in the United States. Organized in 1792 as the Republican Party, its members held power nationally between 1801 and 1825. It was the direct antecedent of the present Democratic Party. -- Democratic-Republican Party

...many southern Whigs flocked to the banner of the states’ rights oriented Democratic Party. By 1854 most northern Whigs had joined the newly formed Republican Party. -- Whig Party

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But your example shows a realignment & movement to 2 different parties.

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happening. people think they only have 2 choices. It's pathetic. So ignorant and Luntz plays right along being the douche bag he is.

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho

The 1%, including the media, have played identity politics 24/7/365 for five decades, and they've done it not to solve the very real problems experienced by women, African Americans, LGBTQ folks and others, but to divide us so that they can devour us.

Now things have reached the point where inter-group tensions are very high.

Why do we think the wealthy have been building these gated communities for all these years?

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

No matter who wins, half the country will consider the winner illegitimate. Gonna be an interesting next 4 years.

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Brown University prof, Scotsman Mark Blyth had a great quip that he directed to the "upper crust". When asked whether a popular uprising could occur in America, he cautioned those living in luxury in The Hamptons..."It's very difficult to defend a low lying beach."

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all the security cams are pointed at the drive way. Smile

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

Hetrose's picture

What a lovely day that might be. I keep thinking that violence can't be far behind all this season's insanity.

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especially those on the East Coast. In most gated communities no one is building the soil or growing any food. Outside them how many places allow people to hang clothes on a clothesline -- and how many thirty-story business buildings or condos even require graywater systems?

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... reap the whirlwind --"

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When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.

lotlizard's picture

That the “losing” side should make a big show of graciously accepting even a result everyone knows is rigged — for the good of the country?

How does that fix anything? How does that help the country come back from corruption?

It doesn’t. It just proves that crime pays, like in 2000. It rewards the worst thing you can do in a supposed democracy. It enables the one kind of crime — robbing the people of their say through direct cheating and fraud — that makes the whole label and concept of “democracy” meaningless.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

the National Anthem no matter which corrupt leader gets installed. Foobar that!

Let me pre-announce that I will not accept either of these two idiots as my Commander In Chief. It's time to throw sand in the gears of this Global Death Machine.

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Just have to find proper ways to go about it.

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Wink's picture

No better time to start than Wednesday.

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I think I may be in SYR on Wednesday. Wink

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start this "revolution" (or whatever we want to call it) than the day after the election. And, if you're going to be in the 'cuse Wed. let's do coffee somewhere. I'd say lunch, but I won't be in town much before 3pm. Maybe a late lunch. Just look for the old guy.

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Agin, things aren't going to work. I am there to drive her home from egg collection. And get a recall done on my car.

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so I don't have a commander in chief. I won't accept either as a legitimate president though.

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Don't we have about four of them by now?

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NT

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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The DNC "rigged" it right out of the gate.

How can you be for a candidate who got to be the candidate by dishonest methods? If the whole process started by corruption the outcome can only be corrupted. Like a court case, if you can out one "lie" then the whole testimony can be nullified. The people never got "their" candidate from the get go - so it's not the people's election that is happening, it's the system's candidate that is forced on them.

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

who among those who participate in these discussions online isn't shivering metaphysically as well as metaphorically?
we haven't been happy with gov't since fdr, but it's never seemed so obviously un-democratic

too many of us don't want to risk disorder, we think we "have" something to lose

i'm watching it all with some dispassion as well as discomfort

of course i'm voting for stein, hoping millions of us do that

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Like in a dysfunctional family - never speak about the dysfunction out loud. Just pretend that everything is normal.

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got some world-class sophistry at work here. Notice how notion of the result actually being illegitimate was dismissed out of hand. This is the media softening us up for a redux of 2000. I'm not having it.

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Say words that will unite. Ha!!! The only words I can think of is that the Clintons were indicted. For that group of people to sit there and say the election isnt rigged, no wonder we have the government we do.

I can't believe that I believe that the only way to heal this nation is to destroy it and start all over. We are so FUBAR, there is no repair. The best we can hope for is that we can at least stop the global infection and empire building so that there is still some place left to escape to.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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the focus group believes it *wasn't* rigged? Some of them were saying it was, in the beginning. Later, sounded like there was an argument amongst them on the subject.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Those words, directed at people like Frank Luntz, 60 minutes, the corporations that own them, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump, would unite about 82% of the country.

The people would elect an honest garbageman right now, if they were given the choice.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

service to the community in which they work. They make life better.

How does the global military/industrial/financial complex make life better?

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to rebuild the party. I don't see how throwing out the baby with the bath water solves anything, although if it comes to that we're right back to 1781 holding Town Halls. Either way, Hillary's Status Quo doesn't and won't work. Time to topple all those money changer tables.

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The "losing" candidate should say to "unite us" struck me as essentially asking what LIE has the losing candidate gotta come up with to keep the people from picking up the pitchforks and coming after his ass and the rest of those ratfuckers is pretty much the takeaway as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, count me in as someone who is so angry at the media and every other institution whose reason for existence is to safeguard the Republic but who caved into the corruption that the only thing I want to hear the day after Election Day is that Hillary is the losing candidate.

*snort*

Yeah, right?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Not from the group or Luntz. All of those people sitting there trapped in the duopology when all they have to do is open the door and walk out.

The one thing that was true about that group is that nobody was listening. No one could get a word out edgewise.

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and they've had crap they don't want dumped on them for so long, that the anger and disgust comes out like a geyser.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

They are obsessed with herd mentality. They MUST vote for the winner, the one the rest of the herd wants. Elections become a game of guessing the winner so you can vote for the winner. That's why we have all those crazy dress fads and movie fads and music fads. No one wants to be outside the herd.

As for me (and surely most here), I think herds are for cows.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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and apparently 'Merican voters being led to the Neoliberal Slaughter House.

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But that comment was worth logging in to upvote.

Priceless

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

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Cachola's picture

I thought it might be a pride. But nooo, it's called a glaring of cats. Then I looked at your cat and had to LOL

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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Fascinating, how people are so indoctrinated with fear to lose all rationality.

Luntz, Rove, Atwater, Murdoch, Adelson, etc - all divide and conquer protectors of the 1%.

I'm beyond contemptuous of the lemmings for not sensing the incredible opportunity for solidarity this election, and the lapdog media for providing cover for the Deep State faction to keep playing us like fools.

We get what we deserve. It'll be up to us after this sham is complete to get people to start being able to discern propaganda a little better next time.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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We've seen various media organizations recast as "undecided" voters who say they're voting third party. This group included alleged undecideds.

Just statistically, the group probably had at least one definitely-decided third-party leaner, but 60 Minutes is not interested in giving that option any legitimacy by being honest about what it's reporting on.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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if a third party vote was even brought up because I am sure that the segment was heavily edited.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

lotlizard's picture

I bet there was a lot of back-and-forth like the kind we see here, e.g. Trump supporters reminding Bernie supporters “you wuz robbed.” But of course CBS wasn’t going to send that out over the airwaves.

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C'mon y'all, on Wednesday, please, embrace the suck.

[edited to add: this is a reply to lotlizard above.]

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♪ ♫ Can you feel the love tonight?

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And it took me a while to figure out why this segment was on 60 minutes, a shill if there ever was one,in the first place: it's b/c they're pushing the dangerous, divided, evil American populace meme. It's a very popular meme.

When in fact, no matter our differences, Americans are actually united in disgust at the political system and the choices it's presenting us.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

k9disc's picture

We should really make hay on that front and work hard to create division between the people and the powerful.

Apartisan framing and language, pointing at Big Corporate & the Oligarchs and their hired help in Government could be received quite well by the general populace.

I still think IRV is the silver bullet. Maybe that could be a featured policy plank in attacking the Establishment that everyone hates.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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or much TV at all really, and certainly not the news shows (emphasis on the "show" as in showtime).

I watched Black Mirror on Netflix. Much cheerier.

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a Villager, and village idiot or accomplice. Either way, not worth watching any of them.

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I've heard "the Villagers" mentioned way back in the day over at TOP, when talking about media but never understood where the term came from.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Anja Geitz's picture

I am a free man!

Oh, that was good. Thanks for the clip. Never heard of that show before. Hilarious.

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by Iron Maiden.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Mark from Queens's picture

It's $hills, in a landslide.

Cenk in a moment of clarity last week:

It takes a village to do that kind of systemic corruption.

But she is perceived by a lot of Americans as the mayor of that village.

And the reason you can't see that, if you live in Washington and New York and are part of the establishment, is because it is your village. You are in that village. And I'm here to tell you that you got it all wrong. Hillary Clinton is an a enormously weak candidate because of all the things I just outlined.

TYT's Cenk Lays It Down : HRC Should Be "Very" Concerned, Support "Super-Soft," She Is The "Mayor" of the Village of Corruption.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Hetrose's picture

Unplugged my TV over eight years ago and only use it to view my Netflix DVDs. Hell, I get enough commercials and misinformation on the net to warp me forever, don't feel like paying to watch TV only to become even more misinformed. Entertainment beyond Netflix? There are a gazillion good books out there that I have never even heard of much less read. Gotta hurry while the eyes are still cooperating.

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but the unpredictability of the damn 'commoners' trashed their plan. So to salvage something from their segment, they laid the blame on the group -- for lack of civility.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

complain about a lack of civility.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

my-gunz-protect-me-from-the-guvmint politicians would insist that the ANC should renounce violence, because that's not the way to resolve political differences.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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having ginned up or intervened in a bloody war or conflict, insists the defeated party can just “get over it.”

The South still hasn’t “gotten over it.”

And our Middle East policy insists trying to reconquer lost territory even thousands of years later is kosher.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

if they had allowed us to have Bernie Sanders as the candidate. They really missed the boat on that one. He would have blown Trump and the Republicans out of the water.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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By losing they can (public position) wring their hands about mean Republicans and gridlock, while (private position) continuing to serve us up to the billionaires as sausage.

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