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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

WaveyDavey's picture

I only have one question. Will they finally talk about what they will do or will they just repeat how bad what the other person wants to do is.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

Pluto's Republic's picture

That's what the Memo said:

"The Throwaway People won't even notice the absense of issues as long as we talk about somebody's genitals. Anybody's genitals will do."

"This strategy has never failed us."

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Not the questions I would have asked, but you know I had low expectations from the get go. I just tuned in to see what kind of pill they were trying to make us swallow this time.

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I just tuned in to see what kind of pill they were trying to make us swallow this time.

"...... and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all......"

[video:https://youtu.be/WANNqr-vcx0 width:480 height:360]

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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I just tuned in to see what kind of pill they were trying to make us swallow this time.

"...... and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all......"

[video:https://youtu.be/WANNqr-vcx0 width:480 height:360]

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Conflict of interest with the Clinton Foundation.

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Conflict of interest with the Clinton Foundation.

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and drown the whole thing out.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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Gonna need a lot of beer and anti-nausea meds for this I bet.

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

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Wasn't sure you were around, so I put up the thread.

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Alphalop's picture

that someone jumped on the grenade for me. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

riverlover's picture

but why not return to seven?

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with the aid of a bottle of hard stuff--beer or wine won't do here.

1 sip per lie.

2 sips for every insult(Trump) or instance of self-satisfied stupidity(Killery).

3. a whole ounce for every threat to unleash nuclear war.

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Mary Bennett

WaveyDavey's picture

before the first commercial break.

2nd Amendment Question:
Clinton = "reasonable regulation"
Trump = "Chicago has lots of gun death and the strictest laws" My translation: Laws don't protect people. Guns protect people.

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to living through the next four years.

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Mary Bennett

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thanatokephaloides's picture

The only way I could watch or listen to this would be with the aid of a bottle of hard stuff--beer or wine won't do here.

1 sip per lie.

You'd next be legal to drive sometime after the election.

The 2024 one.

Wink

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Hope I can wake up tomorrow and be forgiven by my 18 YO for an unbroken,. vulgar hysteria over the last couple hours..

Both are pieces of shit... I'm not buying

The media ( who has already elected HRC) is more responsible than the people fooled.

What to hell am i supposed to think of such a foolish spectacle.

The American People have accepted a Reality TV election.......... We are fucked ...

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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Alphalop's picture

The only saving grace in his terrible delivery was he hit all the proper buzz words for conservatives.

Hillary is absolutely a better speaker, its just her voice that makes me cringe. (Maybe that is just because I know whats behind it.)

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

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babies out of my womb four days before birth.

Ok. Ok, if this is President material in the US, you can pack your bags and go somewhere where the sun never shines.

It's impossible for Hillary not to "win" the debate spectacle, ok I think they will end up slapping each other.
Pfft.

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Debate spectacle = debacle

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

than she has for months.

Must have been on a juice fast for the last week and the suit, what I can see of it, looks both attractive and professional; and the makeup and jewelry are restrained, for once. Behaving like a lady is something else again.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Pluto's Republic's picture

Saw it a couple of days ago. Looks like Juvederm® to me. I'd say Restylane was injected under the eyes.

It's about frickin' time. She was starting to look as bad as Jan Brewer.

And the mystery about her lack of public appearances goes away.

She had better keep it up for the next four years. No one wants a war criminal president who looks like a strip of beef jerky.

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She had better keep it up for the next four years. No one wants a war criminal president who looks like a strip of beef jerky.

If your beef jerky looks like Hillary Clinton without makeup, you need to get your beef jerky somewhere else!!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Pluto's Republic's picture

We are discussing a liquid face lift. An expensive one.

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I'll be watching baseball.

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When I offer to wash your back in the shower, all you have to say is yes or no.
Not all this "who are you, and how did you get in here?" nonsense.

I would like to be wrong, but there's not much of a chance either candidate will be asked a question that I want answered.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

Bollox Ref's picture

This is a broadcast cage match.

Actual questions..........that reflect real voters?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

when they asked Trump the abortion question.

She's killing him on this - but maybe not with his core.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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That was so well rehearsed. It almost sounded like she meant it.

And the valium is wearing off. He're comes the unshackled Donald.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

Now it's on.

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dervish's picture

No one ever mentions the forced sterilization of Native American women. Well over three thousand of these cases occurred between 1973-1976. Full-blooded women were targeted, largely as a reprisal for Wounded Knee. That was an example of genocide, courtesy of the federal government.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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It does relate to reproductive issues, but since it was a measure forced on the women and not a free choice, it comes under the subheading of "Government abuse and malfeasance".

The issue of "abortion" involves just how much free choice women shall be "allowed" - and very often the same people who deplore your example also deplore, and want government to tightly restrict, access to abortion. Cognitive dissonance much?

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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The issue of "abortion" involves just how much free choice women shall be "allowed" - and very often the same people who deplore your example also deplore, and want government to tightly restrict, access to abortion. Cognitive dissonance much?

Not really.

The dicks of which we speak want all abortions and sterilizations to be applied against the choice of the people involved, by mandate.

It's perfectly consistent. Bad

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Alphalop's picture

They should just give a kill switch to the moderator or have it on an automatic timer.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

And here comes the Russia lies...

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

Trump: You're the puppet.

Later: She's been outsmarted by Putin on every issue and that's why she hates him.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

He should have immediately said 'who f***ing cares where the email leaks came from. The leaks expose your corruption and that's the only truth people need to focus on. Stop trying to hide your corrupt history with this Putin smokescreen'.

He not very good at thinking on his feet. He's a skoolyard bully with a low IQ.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Once again, Trump blows it. She immediately brushes off the question and goes on Putin attack mode. Won't discuss the substance. Aaaargh, what an idiot!

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“The first duty of a man is to think for himself”

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Her voice is so loud now, it's unbelievable.

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Gëzuar!!
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Alphalop's picture

Trump, in ever master debater form replies, "You're the puppet"

He should have said, "I'm not a puppet of putins but you sure are of Wall Street"

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

WaveyDavey's picture

whatever you call me bounces off me and stick to you.

Yes, this is how dignified our 'lectshuns have become.

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Should have at least said something about how outrageous it is for a nominee to accuse him of being the puppet of another country's government. Think about it! Wow.

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“The first duty of a man is to think for himself”

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And Squirrels!!!

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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riverlover's picture

The recyclers, if picking-up, might have a chuckle.

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nomination--the PBO nominee whose nomination is also supported by the likes of former MonicaGate federal prosecutor, Ken Starr, and Former Bush AG, Alberto Gonzales.

And 'liberals' are supposed to be happy about that?

Don't think so.

Biggrin

Hey, FSC's already introducing her campaign's Russian hacking CT--gotta love it! Wink

Mollie


“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit and therefore– to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

Alphalop's picture

then ours anymore.

Particularly not if the Clinton's get back in power...

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

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that if she wants to launch nuclear missiles the military will obey her command to do so, but they won't obey Trump. Really. She just effectively said that she'd be more effective in launching nukes.

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most americans these days pretty much assume that the only context in which the US would "want" to launch any nukes at anybody would be one in which the President has fucked everything up so royally that some "enemy" or another somehow imagined it would be a good idea to initiate an existential war against us.

HRC's enthusiasm for exercising the authority that comes with the codes is more than mildly disturbing

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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...has fucked everything up so royally that some [designated] "enemy" … imagines it would be a good idea to initiate ... war

[...against the crazy nation.]

One day, the years 1930 to 2030 will be called the Hitlery Century – The Little Emperors Who Couldn't..

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the question is, what does it say about someone running for President, that she actively imagines a future in which she has fucked up just that royally.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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I imagine that is exactly what she is working towards with deliberate intent...

A few billion less worthless eaters and takers is probably just fine and dandy of an idea to her and Kissinger...

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

and The Clinton foundation will implement Plan Wall E to clean up the pieces and report when it is safe for the elite to come out of the Biosphere on their Pacific Island compound

It has to be cheaper than eco-engineering Mars!!

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at incoming asteroids. Which might be a good thing.

My personal opinion is that the Globe send them into the sun. Oh, happy day!

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I was tempted to point that out but was afraid of retribution. I think I have some kind of DKOStocholm Syndrome.

Thank you for your honesty.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

and we all know it.

Given the emails, Wikileaks and the ham handed smear so easily debunked: the abject close down of news, and all the behind the scenes . . . nothing about this is believable, and nothing either of them says means anything. The nation is being bilked: climate change is advancing, education, retirement, infrastructure being gutted: and everything is being privatized so that every single blessing of life will be destroyed for all but the wealthy. I don't believe ANYTHING either of these narcissists say tonight.

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Alphalop's picture

Like any of us actually believe she will work to achieve any of his goals...

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything by not having it on.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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You knew it was there for a reason. The force is strong in you.

I didn't have the bucket handy. I had to do the light-headed scramble to the tub (not the toilet...I needed a wider entry zone).

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Trump: He should have endorsed me.

Bernie: I should have endorsed Jill.

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WaveyDavey's picture

I can show you my Mt Everest underskirt photo. Smile

C'mon guys.

Why don't you return my voice messages?

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she had the balls to talk about the assistance the Clinton Foundation provided for Haiti and the earthquake victims!!

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I can hear you shouting through my headphones..........

God, she must be dreadful close up.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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of having to listen to that shrill voice for 4 years.

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

Alphalop's picture

I would rather engage in sexual congress with a salad shooter...

Repeatedly...

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So would Bill.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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Is even possible.

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I'm here for you bro.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

is way too worried about his own script.

He should shut up and just let them go at it.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

and we all know it.

Given the emails, Wikileaks and the ham handed smear so easily debunked: the abject close down of news, and all the behind the scenes . . . nothing about this is believable, and nothing either of them says means anything. The nation is being bilked: climate change is advancing, education, retirement, infrastructure being gutted: and everything is being privatized so that every single blessing of life will be destroyed for all but the wealthy. I don't believe ANYTHING either of these narcissists say tonight.

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I've always been against TPP, I was against TPP before Dinosaurs and I'll be against it after Dinosaurs. I'll be against before I'm president and I'll be against it after I'm president. And I'll be against it write up to the point I sign it!!

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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didn't like Donald pointing out that Clinton operatives placed agitators at Trump rallies.

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George W. Bush

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