Obama used a pseudonym in emails with Clinton, FBI documents reveal

President Barack Obama used a pseudonym in email communications with Hillary Clinton and others, according to FBI records made public Friday.

The disclosure came as the FBI released its second batch of documents from its investigation into Clinton’s private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

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The State Department has refused to make public that and other emails Clinton exchanged with Obama. Lawyers have cited the "presidential communications privilege," a variation of executive privilege, in order to withhold the messages under the Freedom of Information Act.

The report doesn't provide more details on the contents of that particular email exchange, but says it took place on June 28, 2012, and had the subject line: "Re: Congratulations." It may refer to the Supreme Court's ruling that day upholding a key portion of the Obamacare law.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607#...

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-03-of-0...

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They're all such sneaky bastids:

Obama Says He Learned About Clinton Emails When Everyone Else Did
http://time.com/3736534/obama-clinton-emails/

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Jeez Louise. So Obama learned about Clinton emails when everyone else did, but his pseudonymic double knew about the system all along and was using it.

I see. Makes perfect sense, really.

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the resemblance ends.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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“The policy of my Administration is to encourage transparency, which is why my emails, the BlackBerry I carry around, all those records are available and archived,” Obama told CBS. “I’m glad that Hillary’s instructed that those emails about official business need to be disclosed.”

For one thing, his administration hasn't been one of transparency, but what does the bottom sentence mean?
I hope he doesn't mean that Hillary instructed her staff to turn over her emails when she left office because we know that she didn't turn any of them over for years and only did so after the Benghazi hearings turned up that she had used a private email server and after she told the FBI that she had turned all of her emails over to them they kept finding thousands more.
And does anyone believe that she sent 30,000 emails discussing yoga and Chelsea's wedding?
Keep digging Amanda. Great job.
I'm not surprised that Obama isn't going to let her emails be released before the election, but if there is anything in them that will incriminate her for anything, you can bet that the republicans are going to spend 4 years investigating her.
She will either ignore it and use Executive Privilege or spend 4 years defending herself and nothing will get done.
Now imagine if Bernie would have become president.

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

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That was another blurb of word salad. Tundra Barbie made us do that. And down the drain we go.

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We were parsing well before Palin.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout#Modified_limited_hangout

Although....many have called both Clintons "Nixonian."

Some of my personal favorite (but not in a good way) parse-ables:

I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Alan Greenspan. A caucus99%er uses that as his or her signature line.

and

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

Donald Rumsfeld.

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

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I LOLed. How awful.

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But the Politico headline omits a crucial word:

"Once informed that the sender's name is believed to be [a] pseudonym used by the president, Abedin exclaimed: 'How is this not classified?'" the report says.

The quote, in the report, signifies speculation, while the headline states the use of a pseudonym as fact.

The inaccurate headline then leads to an inaccurate discussion. As Orwell wrote, "... if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

have very likely seen the same data on that as I have.

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Take as an instance this news item about career people in the State Department feeling political pressure from appointees while trying to fulfill FOIA requests for H's emails:

The witness said he and other career officers, who were typically involved in the FOIA process and in responding to congressional inquiries, were "cut out of the loop" when Clinton's emails needed processing. Instead, new staffers were "placed" by "top State officials" to take over the job of screening Clinton's emails; the witness said the officials — whose identities were redacted — had "a very narrow focus on all Clinton-related items and were put in positions that were not advertised."

From FBI found political pressure surrounded treatment of Benghazi emails

(yes I know it's the Washington Examiner, but the right wing rags are doing more and better reporting on this than the left wing or main stream rags. Wadda ya gonna do?)

It's a bit ironic that some of the "over-classification" and "retro- classification" that has been bitterly complained about by the Clintonites was actually done to improperly label stuff as classified that more accurately would have been labelled "E" for Embarrassing in order to protect Herself.

The fact that we have this political interference going on AFTER Hillary and her minions are gone is troubling to say the least, because this essentially drags in Kerry and Obama as being cogs in a cover-up.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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Judicial Watch case.

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not Hillary. Same for Kerry.

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I thought that in general, Kerry was a clean hands kind of guy. My only real grudge against him was when he didn't fight for his election by contesting the Ohio results where something very very strange went on in plain sight.

Aside from that, I thought it was a good sign that people in State seemed to be trying to actually fulfill FOIA and Benghazi committee requests since that is when the whole knowlege of Hillary's email was revealed, after she left.

But, it now seems that State is slow walking as much as they can and I read a disturbing article that State awarded John Kerry's daughter a no-bid contract for her non-profit, which has to do with staging medical personnel around the world. I think she may have a wonderful non-profit and it may do good work, but it's the no-bid part I object to. Everyone in politics seems to be climbing on the non-profit band wagon. All well and good, but there needs to be way better oversight, reporting and auditing of these organizations.

Rhode Island is always a nice lab in which to view new variations in corruption since they strive to be on the cutting edge in this arena - the statehouse there is very into the whole non-profit scam game. Many miscreants are discovered to have ties to basically cookie jars disguised as non-profits which they plunder at will. They also award public grants to these apparent slush funds.

(edited for typos and redundant redundancies)

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

Are you saying that Obama is responsible for his own acts and omissions, but Hillary is to blame for what Kerry has done about this email situation. If so, I disagree. Kerry is responsible for his own acts and omissions, just like everyone else who is his age and of sound mind. He's slow walked this from the start. IMO, he is putting party above country.

As far as Iowa, Kerry's explanation was, to me, worse than the fact that he did not contet. He said that he didn't want to seem like a bad sport or a sore loser, or words to that effect, as if it was all about his personal image and had nothing to do with the country or with his supporters or with people who desperately wanted him to defeat Bush. But, that's neither here nor there anymore. He is responsible for his own acts and omissions because he is more than old enough to be responsible for them, not because of anything in his past record.

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but I heard that Hillary demanded personal hiring authority at State when she was there, and that she stacked the place with her loyalists.

While Kerry is obviously responsible for his own actions, and equally obviously is Secretary of State, I don't know how much trouble he would have running an agency filled with Clintonistas. I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not 100% sure how much power he really has, or how easily he could remove these people and replace them with people of his own.

That is not to say that Kerry isn't compromised, whether by choice or by threat; of course he is. The Rumsfeldian speech he made justifying war in Syria (which didn't end up panning out quite in the way he was looking for) showed me that three years ago.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

but not solely by her. Obomber has done quite a bit on his own to f@ck up his own 'legacy'.
Nobel Peace Prize laureate and the fucker keeps killing people; boy, did they misjudge that one or what?
It's enough to make one sick at heart, the lies, the killings, the coverups, the corruptions, when does it end?
What do they have to do to piss this country off enough to rise up and say 'No More!' ? Are we close, yet?
Honestly, I think the only thing that might be holding tptb in Some kind of check is the fact this country is awash in firearms and there are over 2 million vets out there with combat training and EXPERIENCE in the art of warfare. My training is dated, but I bet it could still be applied, successfully.

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
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Yes it is more important to keep the fascist Trump out of the Whitehouse but Hillary really is a piece of trash

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OMG, a recycled head line of mine.

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giving her the ultimate support?
I am still unconvinced she is less fascist than Trump.
I can envision a seamless cooperation between her Whitehouse and Corporate Amerika.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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In other words, neither Clinton nor Trump gets 270 votes, and the Establishment has to come up with some scam they haven't used before to shove one of them into office. I don't know which one they would choose, and I don't know how they would work it. You can be sure they would scream to high heaven that this "cannot wait" for a decision by the House of Representatives - they screamed that in 2000, when the country was NOT "at war". Now that it is "at war", they'll do everything they can to stampede a quick - and probably catastrophic - decision.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Sat, 09/24/2016 - 9:28am — on the cusp

Isn't voting for her and helping her get elected
giving her the ultimate support?
I am still unconvinced she is less fascist than Trump.
I can envision a seamless cooperation between her Whitehouse and Corporate Amerika.

Which already exists. (Not to mention multinational corporations as well.) They're in her freaking campaign as well as that frackin' private agreement which she pushed around the world, setting up for global corporate law to rule over free countries (already with protections against traitors built right into domestic law/constitutions) a betrayal which cannot simply be accepted as a 'done deal' - unless the people of all countries do - especially regarding that country, America, from where, it seems, the locally worst originate, having by far the world's largest military and - as of 2011 - at least outposts in 148 countries, all ready for global corporate domination.

These corporate coups need to be stopped at source...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/14/ron-paul/...

Ron Paul says U.S. has military personnel in 130 nations and 900 overseas bases

By Louis Jacobson on Wednesday, September 14th, 2011

... For the personnel question, we turned to a Sept. 30, 2010, Pentagon document titled, "Active Duty Military Personnel Strengths by Regional Area and by Country."

We tallied up all the countries with at least one member of the U.S. military, excluding those with personnel deemed to be "afloat." We found U.S. military personnel on the ground in a whopping 148 countries -- even more than Paul had said. (There are varying standards for what constitutes a "country," so that may explain the divergence from Paul’s number.)

However, we should add a caveat. In 56 of these 148 countries, the U.S. has less than 10 active-duty personnel present. These include such obscure locales as Mongolia, Nepal, Gabon, Togo and Suriname.

By contrast, the U.S. has disclosed only 13 countries outside the United States and its possessions that are host to more than 1,000 personnel. They are: Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom, Japan, Bahrain, Djibouti, South Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait.

In addition, this is a snapshot of the global military footprint, so it may not include all temporary training missions and humanitarian assistance activities. "Such activities are so pervasive you almost have to wonder how the other 70 countries manage to avoid hosting such operations," said John Pike, the director of globalsecurity.org, a national security think tank.

Bases

For this question, we turned to an official Pentagon accounting of U.S. military bases around the nation and the world, the "Base Structure Report, Fiscal 2010 Baseline."

According to this report, the U.S. has 662 overseas bases in 38 foreign countries, which is a smaller number than the 900 bases Paul cited. But here again, the list omits several nations integral to active operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, so it’s conceivable that the actual number of sites approaches 900.

The Pentagon "is very reluctant to label anything a ‘base’ because of the negative political connotations associated with it," said Alexander Cooley, a political scientist at Barnard College and Columbia University who studies overseas bases. "Some of these facilities, such as the Manas Transit Center in Kyrgyzstan, may not be officially counted as ‘bases,’ but it is the most important U.S. facility in central Asia, staging every U.S. soldier transiting in and out of Afghanistan and conducting refueling operations."

Still, caveats are in order here, too. Of the 662 overseas sites listed -- that is, those outside the active war zones -- all but 32 of them are either small sites (with a replacement value of less than $915 million) or sites essentially owned on paper only.

For instance, the sole site listed for Canada is 144 square feet of leased space -- equal to a 12-foot-by-12-foot room. That’s an extreme case, but other nations on the list -- such as Aruba, Iceland, Indonesia, Kenya, Norway and Peru -- have just a few U.S. military buildings, many of them leased. Some of the sites are unmanned radio relay towers or other minor facilities. "Most of them are a couple of acres with a cyclone fence and no troops," Pike said. ...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/america-still-has-hundreds-m...

America Still Has Hundreds of Military Bases Worldwide. Have They Made Us Any Safer?
How our global military presence works to facilitate, not prevent, war.

David VineNov. 14, 2014

But much of the US military indenture is also not publicly itemized, even to Congress, in large Black Budget items.

This is very old, from 1995, and makes a reference to a decline in the power and prestige of the intelligence community, lol. Unless that was due to the private industry take-over, which is not-so-lol.

Bolding and other emphasis mine.

https://www.wired.com/1995/11/patton/

Phil Patton Magazine Date of Publication: 11.01.95.

Exposing the Black Budget

The Cold War is over. So why, Paul McGinnis wanted to know, are major CIA, NSA, and Department of Defense programs still being kept secret from Congress and US taxpayers?

It's the world's wildest high-tech toy catalog, the Pentagon's annual Dear Santa letter. It includes secret weapons programs with baffiing code names such as Elegant Lady, Tractor Rose, Forest Green, Senior Citizen, Island Sun and Black Light, White Cloud and Classic Wizard. These are the "black budget" programs that pay for spy satellites, invent stealth cruise missiles, tinker with Ladar – laser radar – and experiment on aircraft that change color and helicopters that evade tracking systems. Covering expenditures for intelligence and weapons research, the Pentagon's black budget is the most titillating portion of the massive classification program that has swelled almost unabated since World War II.

This article has been reproduced in a new format and may be missing content or contain faulty links. Contact wiredlabs@wired.com to report an issue.

The black budget is the government's illusory and tangled accounting of what it spends on intelligence gathering, covert operations, and – less noticeably – secret military research and weapons programs. It admits to no easy calculation, but by estimates of those who watch it, the black budget may hit US$30 billion a year – a figure larger than current federal expenditures for education. It includes spending by the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and military R&D.

Documented – vaguely – in funding requests and authorizations voted on by select committees of the US Congress, the black budget is published with omitted dollar amounts and blacked-out passages. It hides all sorts of strange projects, not just from enemies, foreign and domestic, but from the public and elected officials as well. Last year, for instance, it was revealed that the National Reconnaissance Office had for several years used the black budget to hide from Congress the cost and ownership of a $300 million office building, even though the structure was plainly visible from Route 28 west of Washington, DC. ...

(My interjection: The Purloined Letter 'hiding in plain sight' method, as applied to public money and far too many things. When law and the duty of democratic government is permitted disregard by those engaged in it, this will become the norm, as it has, and abuse will expand. The appropriate response is not to 'let it stand as a done deal', but to object in some fashion. Bolding and other emphasis, mine.)

..."I became interested in the subject of excessive military secrecy," McGinnis e-mailed me recently, "because it struck me as wrong that the US military was still acting as if the Cold War was happening. A turning point came with a September 1993 Freedom of Information Act case

I filed on the classified aircraft codenamed Senior Citizen (Program Element 0401316F) and Groom Lake."

McGinnis found himself exchanging letters with an Air Force colonel named Richard Weaver (then Deputy for Security and Investigative Programs for the Secretary of the Air Force). Reading the censored case files he received from his request, McGinnis became convinced that the Air Force (and other military services) had large numbers of senior officials who held arrogant attitudes toward the average American taxpayer.

"You can imagine the anger I felt when I saw censored internal Air Force memos from Colonel Weaver with lines like 'His appeal justification is the standard (blacked-out censored area) provided by almost everyone else who makes similar requests for this information. All have been turned down.' And 'Mr. McGinnis's rationale that he somehow should be allowed to perform those oversight functions of Congress, while novel, is not compelling.'"

This kind of response turned a mild-mannered inquirer into a much more fervent muckraker. "I was merely pointing out the Air Force's violations of US classification policy, contained in Executive Order 12356, and how secret spending violated Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 of the US Constitution," McGinnis argues with typical mastery of the obscure. He's referring to the requirement that Congress approve all federal spending. The black budget, McGinnis argues, violates that provision by hiding the purpose of expenditures. ...

(My interjection: the US Constitution has been routinely violated by those charged with upholding/defending it - meaning the rights of its citizens - for so long that, like polluting and other industry believing that they have a right to destroy human and environmental health and life for increased profits after long having done so with relative impunity, the validity of this document - involving the inalienable rights of American citizens - is, by many, not regarded with any degree of respect or as pertaining to their duty. The possession of guns can pass, as it provides an excuse to shoot civilians? This following is interesting, in the light of what we know about the Clintons. Optics being all in all to them, especially where their often rather transparent excuses and efforts to deceive are concerned. Please note that 'civil applications' works out to privatization and sale of military developments at public expense. Trump has nothing on the Clintons for grimy deals intended to benefit themselves at cost to others. Bolding and other emphasis mine.)

... There are signs of reform. The Clinton administration has split the Advanced Research Projects Agency, which developed vital weapons (and the Internet) in the past, from the Pentagon and charged that its research should now focus on dual-use technologies with both civilian and military applications.

And after years of heaving and groaning, a new policy seems to be arriving. Late last spring, President Clinton issued a long-awaited executive order on secrecy reform. Effective this last month, the order will declassify hundreds of millions of pages of Cold War documents. Under the new policy, most current secret documents will be automatically declassified after 25 years, and classification from now on will automatically expire after a decade – approximately the same length of time that has passed since government officials began drafting the new order.

There are loopholes, however, that will keep many sensitive documents under lock and key, including those relating to the president and to foreign government involvement. And it will be the unenviable task of something called the Information Security Oversight Office to handle the laborious duty of declassification.

With this order and with John Deutch, the newly installed head of the CIA, promising both a fresh look at classification policy and a new spirit of openness, it might seem that the work of McGinnis and other black budget watchdogs has come to an end. But it is far from clear that the new openness is real. A Congressional committee on secrecy policy, which brings together such unlikely allies as New York Democratic Senator Pat Moynihan and North Carolina Republican Jesse Helms (both share a concern over excess security), has yet to produce specific recommendations for bringing the black budget out of the shadows. And the panic reaction that followed the arrest of Aldrich Ames has created a thick and swirling atmosphere of fear that dims the prospects of secrecy reform.

But the current administration has already declassified a huge number of documents – from World War II, the '50s, and the '60s. Many of these represent what the black budgets of the past really meant. They are the meat on the bones of old numbers. And, emerging like fiickering images from some time machine's screen, they seem almost surreal: they represent in effect the government's first admission of things that every history book already records. ...

And what of the mysteriously missing trillions of US taxpayer dollars - what various things - or who - could they be funding/buying? Dunno anything about this site, (mostly too tired to do any actual research, but some might like to check this and/or her site out?) but the fact of missing trillions is known. Here, secret space investment is suggested - with space, as we know, being privatized. But who actually knows where - or whom - this money variously vanishes to?

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/where-missing-trillions-from-us-budget-sa...

Sarah K. Westall

Entrepreneur, Partner, Adjunct Prof, and Radio Host at Conscious Business Radio

Where are the Missing Trillions from the U.S. Budget?
Oct 13, 2015

Hear this episode and all previous episodes at http://sarahwestall.com/

In the last few decades, there has been trillions of dollars missing from the U.S. budget. Donald Rumsfeld, secretary of defense under Ford and Bush Junior, identified $2.3 trillion missing dollars (which was actually confirmed to be $2.7 trillion) in 2001 and recently Catherine Austin Fitts, the assistant department of Housing secretary under George Bush senior claimed that over the past few decades “upwards of 40 Trillion dollars is missing” from almost every agency in the country. What in the world is going on? First, is it even possible that this much money could be missing? My mind probably would not be able to entertain this idea even remotely until I saw the first, and only, audit of the Federal Reserve, showing $16 Trillion dollars being funneled to off shore banks. While this in and of itself doesn’t prove anything, it certainly does open up my mind to listen and question what is going on. ...

Is much of this missing taxpayer money going to finance the hostile global take-over of the world at their victim's expense? With the degree of corporate welfare going on, paid for by austerity for the citizens in various countries, this hardly seems unlikely.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

And she may have rigged it so she doesn't really need those, either.

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If you've read any of my comments, you know I disagree.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I don't want Trump to win but I want Hillary to lose.

It's not even like "oh, I hate both of them"....which I do. It's that I can't deny that I hate her more., which is weird because Trump is a dangerous, mobbified lunatic. So what does that say about Hillary?

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I know that makes me a horrible person, but it's the truth, so I guess I'm a horrible person.

Bleh.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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Because that is the only way it will matter. Which is why they apparently had her rigged out with all that stuff to get her through it.

I do wonder how they got her eye to track.

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Coughing fit

Exorcist eyes

"Fainting"

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Sad but true. I want her to lose. To Donald Trump.

No wonder I've been drinking more lately. Trying to dull the pain. i still can't believe either of these sorry individuals is going to be president.

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diarrhea. Having been in politics most of her life, and being a fan of opacity, she is far more controlled verbally than her friend, Donald. Despite that, she has still said enough dumb things provide plenty of fodder.

She has a track record of wreaking havoc in places like Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. and of laughing about killing Qaddafi and bombing Iran. He doesn't. Although I have not looked into it, his business dealings in the Middle East have probably been unsavory, but I doubt he's done anywhere near as much damage anywhere as has Hillary. His election may harm the Republican Party. Hers will carry the Democratic Party still further right and make only heaven knows how many more enemies for the US that will want to kill us. The country began running to the right when Democrats went right and stopped pushing back at Republicans. If the Democratic Party goes any further right than it already has since Bill Clinton's administration, the country is bound for even more hellaciousness.

Overall, I think Hillary's election would be the greater evil, especially long term.

#JillnotHill

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the Mad Bomber. What lots of us didn't know was that he used a pseudonym and thus may have emailed her more than the18 times admitted to. I suspect this may have an influence in protecting her legally. If she goes down, she's going to pull him down with her.

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