Obama used a pseudonym in emails with Clinton, FBI documents reveal
President Barack Obama used a pseudonym in email communications with Hillary Clinton and others, according to FBI records made public Friday.
The disclosure came as the FBI released its second batch of documents from its investigation into Clinton’s private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.
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The State Department has refused to make public that and other emails Clinton exchanged with Obama. Lawyers have cited the "presidential communications privilege," a variation of executive privilege, in order to withhold the messages under the Freedom of Information Act.
The report doesn't provide more details on the contents of that particular email exchange, but says it took place on June 28, 2012, and had the subject line: "Re: Congratulations." It may refer to the Supreme Court's ruling that day upholding a key portion of the Obamacare law.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607#...
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-03-of-0...
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They're all such sneaky bastids:
Obama Says He Learned About Clinton Emails When Everyone Else Did
http://time.com/3736534/obama-clinton-emails/
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Comments
seems that EVERYBODY has a double...
Jeez Louise. So Obama learned about Clinton emails when everyone else did, but his pseudonymic double knew about the system all along and was using it.
I see. Makes perfect sense, really.
Obi-Wan Kenobi would have had no problem with it. Move along.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=532j-186xEQ]
Their names start with "O" but that's where
the resemblance ends.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Did someone say they resembled each other?
Just an observation.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I have no idea what this means. Anyone?
For one thing, his administration hasn't been one of transparency, but what does the bottom sentence mean?
I hope he doesn't mean that Hillary instructed her staff to turn over her emails when she left office because we know that she didn't turn any of them over for years and only did so after the Benghazi hearings turned up that she had used a private email server and after she told the FBI that she had turned all of her emails over to them they kept finding thousands more.
And does anyone believe that she sent 30,000 emails discussing yoga and Chelsea's wedding?
Keep digging Amanda. Great job.
I'm not surprised that Obama isn't going to let her emails be released before the election, but if there is anything in them that will incriminate her for anything, you can bet that the republicans are going to spend 4 years investigating her.
She will either ignore it and use Executive Privilege or spend 4 years defending herself and nothing will get done.
Now imagine if Bernie would have become president.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Many of us have gotten pro at parsing.
That was another blurb of word salad. Tundra Barbie made us do that. And down the drain we go.
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"It depends on what the definition of "is" is."
We were parsing well before Palin.
Yes, and even before Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout#Modified_limited_hangout
Although....many have called both Clintons "Nixonian."
Some of my personal favorite (but not in a good way) parse-ables:
Alan Greenspan. A caucus99%er uses that as his or her signature line.
and
Donald Rumsfeld.
Was he Carlos Danger?
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Someone on FB guessed Super Fly.
I LOLed. How awful.
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I have no beef with this essay, as it uses the Politico headline
But the Politico headline omits a crucial word:
"Once informed that the sender's name is believed to be [a] pseudonym used by the president, Abedin exclaimed: 'How is this not classified?'" the report says.
The quote, in the report, signifies speculation, while the headline states the use of a pseudonym as fact.
The inaccurate headline then leads to an inaccurate discussion. As Orwell wrote, "... if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."
Good point.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Many people read only headlines and those who write headlines
have very likely seen the same data on that as I have.
How much of Obama's legacy is going to be smirched due to HRC
Take as an instance this news item about career people in the State Department feeling political pressure from appointees while trying to fulfill FOIA requests for H's emails:
It's a bit ironic that some of the "over-classification" and "retro- classification" that has been bitterly complained about by the Clintonites was actually done to improperly label stuff as classified that more accurately would have been labelled "E" for Embarrassing in order to protect Herself.
The fact that we have this political interference going on AFTER Hillary and her minions are gone is troubling to say the least, because this essentially drags in Kerry and Obama as being cogs in a cover-up.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Fellow Boomers--very sad outome?
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This will affect the 1st
Judicial Watch case.
What Obama says and does, or doesn't say or do, is on Obama,
not Hillary. Same for Kerry.
Completely agreed on that point about Kerry and Obama
I thought that in general, Kerry was a clean hands kind of guy. My only real grudge against him was when he didn't fight for his election by contesting the Ohio results where something very very strange went on in plain sight.
Aside from that, I thought it was a good sign that people in State seemed to be trying to actually fulfill FOIA and Benghazi committee requests since that is when the whole knowlege of Hillary's email was revealed, after she left.
But, it now seems that State is slow walking as much as they can and I read a disturbing article that State awarded John Kerry's daughter a no-bid contract for her non-profit, which has to do with staging medical personnel around the world. I think she may have a wonderful non-profit and it may do good work, but it's the no-bid part I object to. Everyone in politics seems to be climbing on the non-profit band wagon. All well and good, but there needs to be way better oversight, reporting and auditing of these organizations.
Rhode Island is always a nice lab in which to view new variations in corruption since they strive to be on the cutting edge in this arena - the statehouse there is very into the whole non-profit scam game. Many miscreants are discovered to have ties to basically cookie jars disguised as non-profits which they plunder at will. They also award public grants to these apparent slush funds.
(edited for typos and redundant redundancies)
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I am not sure I am understanding what you are saying about Kerry
Are you saying that Obama is responsible for his own acts and omissions, but Hillary is to blame for what Kerry has done about this email situation. If so, I disagree. Kerry is responsible for his own acts and omissions, just like everyone else who is his age and of sound mind. He's slow walked this from the start. IMO, he is putting party above country.
As far as Iowa, Kerry's explanation was, to me, worse than the fact that he did not contet. He said that he didn't want to seem like a bad sport or a sore loser, or words to that effect, as if it was all about his personal image and had nothing to do with the country or with his supporters or with people who desperately wanted him to defeat Bush. But, that's neither here nor there anymore. He is responsible for his own acts and omissions because he is more than old enough to be responsible for them, not because of anything in his past record.
Not having worked in a federal agency, I don't know--
but I heard that Hillary demanded personal hiring authority at State when she was there, and that she stacked the place with her loyalists.
While Kerry is obviously responsible for his own actions, and equally obviously is Secretary of State, I don't know how much trouble he would have running an agency filled with Clintonistas. I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not 100% sure how much power he really has, or how easily he could remove these people and replace them with people of his own.
That is not to say that Kerry isn't compromised, whether by choice or by threat; of course he is. The Rumsfeldian speech he made justifying war in Syria (which didn't end up panning out quite in the way he was looking for) showed me that three years ago.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
All of it will be besmirched,
but not solely by her. Obomber has done quite a bit on his own to f@ck up his own 'legacy'.
Nobel Peace Prize laureate and the fucker keeps killing people; boy, did they misjudge that one or what?
It's enough to make one sick at heart, the lies, the killings, the coverups, the corruptions, when does it end?
What do they have to do to piss this country off enough to rise up and say 'No More!' ? Are we close, yet?
Honestly, I think the only thing that might be holding tptb in Some kind of check is the fact this country is awash in firearms and there are over 2 million vets out there with combat training and EXPERIENCE in the art of warfare. My training is dated, but I bet it could still be applied, successfully.
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
I may vote for HRC but I do not support her
Yes it is more important to keep the fascist Trump out of the Whitehouse but Hillary really is a piece of trash
Sophie's Choice, by a neglectful parent who loves neither.
OMG, a recycled head line of mine.
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Isn't voting for her and helping her get elected
giving her the ultimate support?
I am still unconvinced she is less fascist than Trump.
I can envision a seamless cooperation between her Whitehouse and Corporate Amerika.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I want to see, and will work towards, a split election
In other words, neither Clinton nor Trump gets 270 votes, and the Establishment has to come up with some scam they haven't used before to shove one of them into office. I don't know which one they would choose, and I don't know how they would work it. You can be sure they would scream to high heaven that this "cannot wait" for a decision by the House of Representatives - they screamed that in 2000, when the country was NOT "at war". Now that it is "at war", they'll do everything they can to stampede a quick - and probably catastrophic - decision.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Sat, 09/24/2016 - 9:28am — on
Sat, 09/24/2016 - 9:28am — on the cusp
Which already exists. (Not to mention multinational corporations as well.) They're in her freaking campaign as well as that frackin' private agreement which she pushed around the world, setting up for global corporate law to rule over free countries (already with protections against traitors built right into domestic law/constitutions) a betrayal which cannot simply be accepted as a 'done deal' - unless the people of all countries do - especially regarding that country, America, from where, it seems, the locally worst originate, having by far the world's largest military and - as of 2011 - at least outposts in 148 countries, all ready for global corporate domination.
These corporate coups need to be stopped at source...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/14/ron-paul/...
But much of the US military indenture is also not publicly itemized, even to Congress, in large Black Budget items.
This is very old, from 1995, and makes a reference to a decline in the power and prestige of the intelligence community, lol. Unless that was due to the private industry take-over, which is not-so-lol.
Bolding and other emphasis mine.
https://www.wired.com/1995/11/patton/
(My interjection: The Purloined Letter 'hiding in plain sight' method, as applied to public money and far too many things. When law and the duty of democratic government is permitted disregard by those engaged in it, this will become the norm, as it has, and abuse will expand. The appropriate response is not to 'let it stand as a done deal', but to object in some fashion. Bolding and other emphasis, mine.)
(My interjection: the US Constitution has been routinely violated by those charged with upholding/defending it - meaning the rights of its citizens - for so long that, like polluting and other industry believing that they have a right to destroy human and environmental health and life for increased profits after long having done so with relative impunity, the validity of this document - involving the inalienable rights of American citizens - is, by many, not regarded with any degree of respect or as pertaining to their duty. The possession of guns can pass, as it provides an excuse to shoot civilians? This following is interesting, in the light of what we know about the Clintons. Optics being all in all to them, especially where their often rather transparent excuses and efforts to deceive are concerned. Please note that 'civil applications' works out to privatization and sale of military developments at public expense. Trump has nothing on the Clintons for grimy deals intended to benefit themselves at cost to others. Bolding and other emphasis mine.)
And what of the mysteriously missing trillions of US taxpayer dollars - what various things - or who - could they be funding/buying? Dunno anything about this site, (mostly too tired to do any actual research, but some might like to check this and/or her site out?) but the fact of missing trillions is known. Here, secret space investment is suggested - with space, as we know, being privatized. But who actually knows where - or whom - this money variously vanishes to?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/where-missing-trillions-from-us-budget-sa...
Is much of this missing taxpayer money going to finance the hostile global take-over of the world at their victim's expense? With the degree of corporate welfare going on, paid for by austerity for the citizens in various countries, this hardly seems unlikely.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yes. She doesn't need $ or volunteers. All she needs is the vote
And she may have rigged it so she doesn't really need those, either.
And Hillary is NOT a fascist?
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/180672#comment-180672
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/180673#comment-180673
#JillnotHill
Your vote, your choice.
If you've read any of my comments, you know I disagree.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I find myself hoping that she blows the debate
I don't want Trump to win but I want Hillary to lose.
It's not even like "oh, I hate both of them"....which I do. It's that I can't deny that I hate her more., which is weird because Trump is a dangerous, mobbified lunatic. So what does that say about Hillary?
I find myself hoping she goes into a full on physical spasm
I know that makes me a horrible person, but it's the truth, so I guess I'm a horrible person.
Bleh.
I'm even worse. I want her to do it on stage at the next debate.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
You and Me Both
Because that is the only way it will matter. Which is why they apparently had her rigged out with all that stuff to get her through it.
I do wonder how they got her eye to track.
And there are so many ways she could.
Coughing fit
Exorcist eyes
"Fainting"
My thoughts exactly
Sad but true. I want her to lose. To Donald Trump.
No wonder I've been drinking more lately. Trying to dull the pain. i still can't believe either of these sorry individuals is going to be president.
They are both self-absorbed psychopaths. He has verbal
diarrhea. Having been in politics most of her life, and being a fan of opacity, she is far more controlled verbally than her friend, Donald. Despite that, she has still said enough dumb things provide plenty of fodder.
She has a track record of wreaking havoc in places like Syria, Yemen, Libya, etc. and of laughing about killing Qaddafi and bombing Iran. He doesn't. Although I have not looked into it, his business dealings in the Middle East have probably been unsavory, but I doubt he's done anywhere near as much damage anywhere as has Hillary. His election may harm the Republican Party. Hers will carry the Democratic Party still further right and make only heaven knows how many more enemies for the US that will want to kill us. The country began running to the right when Democrats went right and stopped pushing back at Republicans. If the Democratic Party goes any further right than it already has since Bill Clinton's administration, the country is bound for even more hellaciousness.
Overall, I think Hillary's election would be the greater evil, especially long term.
#JillnotHill
It was public knowledge months ago that Obama emailed
the Mad Bomber. What lots of us didn't know was that he used a pseudonym and thus may have emailed her more than the18 times admitted to. I suspect this may have an influence in protecting her legally. If she goes down, she's going to pull him down with her.