FBI gave Cheryl Mills Immunity in E-mail Investigation
Submitted by katchen on Fri, 09/23/2016 - 11:28am
House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, who has been looking into the FBI’s investigation of Clinton, said federal investigators were given access to Mills’ computer but only condition that the FBI’s findings could not used against her, the AP reports.
“No wonder they couldn’t prosecute a case. They were handing out immunity deals like candy,” Chaffetz said.
http://nypost.com/2016/09/23/cheryl-mills-given-immunity-deal-in-clinton...
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the AP has this as well
http://bigstory.ap.org/5eb9830643084dfa9fcbedd8b18b08e0?utm_campaign=Soc...
Give it two more weeks...
and we'll find out they gave Hillary immunity. Sounds like everyone was given immunity. This is sounding worse and worse for Comey and the FBI. Makes you wonder who was really their targets? Russians or squirrels?
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
If she had immunity,
Why did she object to answering some of the questions the FBI/DoJ asked?
see quote from Wash Examiner below
I think that answers your question.
and now the Washington Examiner
quotes a "Democratic staffer':
Wait just a cotton picking minute!
They gave immunity to Samuelson for what was on her computer? I thought her computer got lost in the mail.
Folks this is exactly what corruption looks like. Mr. Obama need not worry about his legacy. The Clinton email deals sealed it for him being remembered for having once of the most corrupt administrations ever, and for being the war/drone President, and for prosecuting lower lever employees under the Espionage Act for far less than Madame Clinton's doings.
Obama, your legacy is shit and for being tied to the hip to Madame Clinton.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
The House Judiciary Committee is meeting with Comey
next Wednesday. Chaffetz and Gowdy are on that committee and I bet they'll have a number of very explicit questions to ask Comey.
This is what I would ask in regards to Cheryl Mills:
Was she truthful when she deposed to the FBI that she didn't know about the server while she was at State?
This is tricky for Comey because essentially it's a no-win. I'll explain:
IMO, She wasn't being truthful because she is on some emails explicitly discussing the server which were revealed to Judicial Watch as a result of FOIA. BUT, the FBI had all the emails so they should have had these as well. In one from 2010, Mills explicitly asks Justin Cooper if HRC's server is down. To me, this proves that: she knew Hillary had a private server and she knew to email the Clinton aide in the Clinton home who serviced that server - ergo she knew the whole ball of wax. (See: Clinton Aides Said They Didn't Know about the Server)
If Comey says Mills was truthful, he is either completely out of the loop and not keeping up with even the general public and the intertubes or even more horribly, he is dissembling himself.
If he says she was not truthful, which appears to be the case, then it begs the question - why would the FBI put up with someone who it knows is not being truthful to them and then even give them additional grants of immunity? It boggles the mind.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
... If Comey says Mills was
Wonder if this sort of thing is why Gitmo was never closed and if Comey's dissembling because afraid of his family being disassembled...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
now Politico...
Chaffetz is pissed:
But Brian Fallon is counterspinning:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mills-immunity-228580
Immunity! Red Hot Immunity! Get your immunity right chere!
Who knew the FBI was so accommodating about immunity? Good to know!
Someone needs to ask the 64K question to Comey straight up - did they also give immunity to Hillary?
So far they've given it to:
the guy who set up and maintained the server who could have spoken to motivation if they asked,
The inside guy who seemed to know about the arrangement in State and told others never to discuss it
The tech guy who wanted to alter the emails and/or destroy them upon someone's instruction
The person who fulfilled the search for relevant emails
The person who was both a major participant and lawyer(!) to the head cheese who ordered the whole set-up in the first place.
Did they miss anyone?
I think the sketchiest part of the whole thing is how they allowed Mills to wear multiple hats AND participate in the Clinton deposition.
Clinton has managed to place a cloud over herself, the State Department and the FBI and the Justice Department. Soon President Obama won't have a legacy to worry about.
Her campaign's comment is asinine, since this information was revealed 3 days before the debate because that is the date that it became known. Comey could have told everyone in his open kimono session if he felt like it.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
That pretty well sums it up.
The Clintons are so much better than they were in the 90s. Back then, it took them the better part of a decade to sully the Congress, Supreme Court and every nook and cranny of the Democratic Party. Now they're going to do it all again before they're even in office.
So,
in essence, all these people now have the revocation of immunity over their heads.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Pardon the expression, but
Jesus F-ing Christ.
Somewhat hard to spin for camp Clinton.
Five immunity deals for a nothingburger?
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
The only spin they care about
"Look over there... TRUMP! BOO!"
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Another final straw, and they keep coming!
Dear Beloved Flying Spaghetti Monster:
PLEASE arrange for Her Hideous Heiniousness to have one of those famous head shaking "not seizures" during the most important part of this upcoming debate. I hope she doesn't fall and break her chin on the podium, but if she does, please have her nice "helper" ( the one with the Diazepam Pen) run up and help she so she doesn't die too quickly, and we get to hear how her sycophants will spin it.
Thank you.
Devotedly in your honor, I will forever wear several small windsocks ( purple, of course) on the edges of my Colander Hat.
A.B.C. = Anybody But Clintons
EDITED TO ADD: couldn't resist it, too good to miss.
http://drudgereport.com/flashny.htm
RE: Final Straw
One thing is for sure...that camel has one helluva strong back. Maybe unbreakable.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Considering what this has
Considering what this has been like since (before) Hill's
nominationcoronation run began, they're probably just saying this will have no breaks and will tape and edit to be able to safely say - see, no coughing, freezing or fits for the whole (how many hours?) debate - she's fine! And she can open jars/small-donors wallets/off-shore accounts with those fine, strong fingers she shakes around, too!Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I've been wondering...
if the debates will actually be live or with a slight tape delay? I'm betting on at least a 10 minute delay or more so they can switch Hillary's if something happens. Without a tape delay, they would have to let the public see her being dragged off stage before reappearing 5 minutes later, 20 pounds lighter, explaining that she was just dehydrated but is fine now!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Why hasn't someone filed a state bar grievance
on her? She should be disbarred.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Doubt she'd care; Bill didn't. Neither practices law.
He was finally eligible to reapply for his law license and, iirc, didn't bother.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
At least it would be an
At least it would be an expression of disapproval and disavowal from an official body...
Lol, unless they get at least a quarter of a million per courtroom appearance, why would either of them even consider returning to legal practice when they have well over a hundred million personally and a multi-billion-dollar foundation to cover expenses and provide lucrative career pay-offs for various loyalists?
Edit: once I get too tired and headache-y to press on all of the keys or proof before posting, (re-edit: and include all of the words, lol) I probably shouldn't...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
It must be a Friday...
Washington Times (grain of salt required) headline today: "State Department Reveals FBI Uncovered 2,800 Emails Clinton Never Turned Over."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/23/state-department-has-280...
Surprised they didn't wait til Thanksgiving n/t
That will be the final date, how patriotic!
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Experience (recent experience with Comey included)
suggests this is a can-kicking action to delay past the election. Or a variation on the classic bureaucratic ploy of creating a committee to study the subject, a Capitol Hill favorite. The committee deliberates forEVUH, eventually issues findings and maybe even recommendations, which also have to be studied. And nothing happens. Fanfare when it's all announced, silence afterward. This is an alternate form of "dying in committee."
I ardently hope I'm wrong. But it seems unwise to keep waiting for the FBI to be the last-minute save. They're not the marines, and it's not Hollywood.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
I agree with this.
Yet -- maybe the process itself is the last-minute save.
Maybe enough people will be adequately outraged by news of things like all of these immunity deals to NOT vote for Her Majesty.
How many of the small donors
How many of the small donors ripped off directly from their bank accounts by her campaign will be smart enough to realize that voting for someone stealing from you even before elected is a bad idea? I'll bet lots.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
katchen- I'd suggest updating title
to reflect the 3 deals acknowledged (unveiled?) today since you mention them all...I was going to write something new, but I see you've already touched on it all, so no need.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Hi MsGrin!
I was wondering where you were--since this topic is your bailiwick. I've been wanting to update since about 10 minutes after I first posted, but things kept unfolding. Yes, there are now a total of 5 immunities. Also, it should be "limited" immunity in the title, since that distinction also emerged after I posted.
I think you should go ahead and write something new. So much has come out that that makes sense.
Politico has good new article here: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/cheryl-mills-immunity-deal-reactio... Feel free to put it in your essay.
This topic much better in your hands, Ms.Grin! Where the heck were ya?
: )
Plenty for EVERYBODY today ;-)
I've been tied up more than usual the past couple weeks, and it seems folks were saving up for Friday to release an extra special load today.
There are at least a couple things I don't see up here which I may throw up, so please feel free to embellish your piece. The other related POLITICO piece is http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/cheryl-mills-immunity-deal-reactio... Quite fascinating stuff, lots of little bits of information. In yet another piece, I saw a strong suggestion that Combetta's buddy also has a deal, but he's not listed in these two pieces (the FBI release a couple weeks ago appeared to have two names redacted from PRN, so I suspected as much).
I may actually write up the Oversight Committee hearing to hold Pagliano in contempt - pretty interesting. And I haven't yet gone through JW's stuff from their show today. There's lots and lots of stuff...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Who needs immunity? No reasonable prosecutor would prosecute,
right? Isn't that what Comey said?
Outside of fiction, immunity in order to get testimony doesn't always work well. Via C-Span, I watched Monica Goodling testify, after she got immunity. She was not very forthcoming. Immunity or not, I think there is always the impetus among these types to protect oneself and one's reputation as much as possible, and also to protect the people with whom one worked. There is, after all, life after the hearing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Goodling