Why Hillary Lost: Scapegoat Edition
Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 12:52pm
One thing we know for certain, if Hillary loses it won't be the fault of Hillary or the Democratic establishment.
So who's fault will it be? The Huffington Post takes a stab at this crucial question.
If Donald Trump does sack the fortress, no one who lost the battle will want to admit it was Hillary Clinton’s fault. It will have had nothing to do with, say, “transparency” or calling bearded villagers “deplorables” or the Iraq War vote or the simple fact that middle-of-the-road Clintonism ran out of gas as a public philosophy.No, other individuals, groups and forces will have to be blamed. In fact, they already are, pre-emptively. If Trump wins, we’re all going to be too busy moving to Canada to read the postmortems (or write them), so we offer them to you now:
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david brock
is still a right-wing scumbag, and should probably have been employed tending a bar in one of the clintons' shell corporations instead of running her campaign. this is surely the fault of millenials everywhere.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
I bet all those millenials are Russian sleeper agents
Their parents were clearly deployed here in the 90s to spawn a generation that won't vote for Clinton.
Obviously
Or at the very least, "useful idiots" of Putin's Russia
Good one, gjohnsit...
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
11. caucus99percent.
If those fuckers would have jumped on board, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
12. Jill Stein
if it's close, then Jill Stein will be the new Ralph Nader.
Anything to get them to shut up about Nader
What really chaps my hide ...
... is Democrats vilifying Nader (see esp. TOP). As an activist, advocate, author, attorney, and all around bad-ass, Nader has done more for us normal people than ANY Democratic politician has done since the 1960s. Full stop.
Instead, these Democrats piss and moan about how Nader "robbed" Al Gore of the presidency. Nader, to my mind, is one of the foremost champions of the 99%. Al Gore, objectively, is a shitty conserva-Dem from Tennessee. (And let's not even get into his ex-wife who traded on his name to further the cause of music censorship.) Anybody else remember Al's run for president in 1988 when he couldn't break out of the primaries - and rightly so? Remember the right-wing hawk Al Gore that got duly crushed back then? I do, and so shed no tears for him, but rather give him a hearty Nelson Muntz laugh.
Let me put it this way: Al Gore is not fit to hold Ralph Nader's jock.
So when I hear a Democrat get all pissy about Nader in 2000, I immediately lose all respect for the speaker and a little bit of respect for the party.
And Who did Tipper record a song with?
Diva Zappa, the daughter of her artistic defending nemesis, Frank Zappa.
http://www.mtv.com/news/620119/zappas-daughter-records-with-tipper-gore/
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Ralph Nader is an old fart egomaniac with plenty
of money. He's NOT fit to hold a Liberal/Progressive's jock anymore! He wasn't in 2000 either.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Nader-blame can actually be a
Nader-blame can actually be a time-saver; once someone starts in on that, you know you needn't waste any more time reading them.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
A time saver for both the blamer and the blamee.
NADERRRRRRRRRRRRR is the Democrats equivalent of...(wait for it)...
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Oh dear. A dupe. With video even.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
DFH's, all of us
It'll be the same old bleat about the Professional Left. We're completely irrelevant and unrealistic, with no power at all. But we're responsible for all the failures of the "progressive" Democratic Party.
There's a reason nobody ever called the Democratic Party "the party of personal responsibility." Certainly not since the Clintons' owners have been running it.
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Oh, don't forget Black people. Black people are bad, and
insulting to Obama, if they don't turn out for the Hillmeister.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
What a strange election season. Blame the base.
Man, everybody is being thrown under the bus for Hillary. Maybe Obama should have called Hillary up and recommended that she NOT pick as her VIP a white male establishment insider. But rather that she pick somebody who could take up the mantle of the democratic party after her as a coalition of diverse voters with "liberal ideals". Naw.
It goes to something which gopers like to repeat, and you know, it sounds pretty true. Gop leadership fears its base. Dem leadership hates their base.
Remember at TOS
when they used to complain that Conservatism/Republicanism cannot fail, it can only be failed? Turns out they were engaged in some industrial-grade projection.
Indeed. (nm)
Yup, industry culture relies
Yup, industry culture relies a lot on projection/victim blame. The evidence of industry influence used to be less evident outside of the Cons, but now it seems that parties once progressive are changing to pro cons...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
You can say that again Mr. Webster:
What a strange election
Maybe a wave of tossed progs lifts all buses?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
LOL!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I don't get that guy. Does he think we don't know that he was
raised by his mother's family which, like it or not, were upper middle-class white banker (Grandmother) family and he never had to sacrifice, suffer, or worry about a thing. And what landmark favors did this guy do for anybody other than the 1%? He sure didn't do much for black people (or the poor of any color/ethnicity) that I can see exceptthings like putting the programs that the poor depend upon up for cuts during his "austerity'.(Oh, that's not a favor?) Has he passed a jobs program that I missed? Has he stepped up to the plate and pushed HARD for the cessation of murders of black men by the police? Has he come up with any ideas or programs to counter the violence and destruction in Chicago, Baltimore, or Ferguson? He's on is way out now. He has nothing to lose. He could go for it now,, but he's more concerned with a rights and jobs killing trade bill and his 'legacy'. Lord knows those that hold the keys to his next life weren't planning on hiring a populist to front for them.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
It was a mixed bag. I don't think they were upper middle class,
though his grandparents certainly were not factory workers.
Gramps sold furniture, when he worked. Granny worked in a bank. Banks paid notoriously poorly then, giving out titles like VP in lieu of money. Still, a woman in a bank being anything above a teller in those days was something. I doubt she made as much as most of us think.
His father left for New York when Obama was two and his mother, then a student, and Barack lived with her parents. At times, the four of them lived in a two-bedroom apartment in downtown Honolulu. At one point, I think his half sister was there, too, but he may have been in college by then. Obama and his mother were on welfare for a time.
I think Soetero, his mother's second husband* did okay, but living in Indonesia at that time probably was not fun for Obama. Probably an average American then lived much better than most Indonesians. Anyway, he left his mother and stepfather and returned to live with his grandparents. By the time he was in high school, though, there was enough money to send him to private school.
*Actually, Soetero may have been her first husband. When Barack Obama, Sr. came to the US from Kenya, he was already married. He never divorced his first wife. So, I don't know if Sr. and Dunham were legally married. FWIW, when the first out of wedlock pregnancy of Bristol Palin hit the fan and Obama declared families off limits, he mumbled something about "my own mother" then trailed off.
Certainly, he had lived well at various times in his life, though.
I don't say this to defend Obama. I was a huge supporter in 2008, but became more and more disillusioned, almost by the week, between election day and March 2010.
If it happens, we need to embrace it.
We need to let them know they ain't seen nothing yet, and they better watch their phucking backs. Claim the power.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
asdf
My generation's version of this statement:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks for the tune, haven't
Thanks for the tune, haven't heard it for a while. And hadn't seen the video, that I can recall; unfortunately looked like a bad remake of a Jackie Chan movie, though.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I think it was supposed to be a 70's cop show...
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
This! Let's insist we did make her lose, and will do it again
Dear democrats: every damn time you shove another neoliberal hack to the head of the line and show nothing but contempt for us, you can expect to lose. We've had enough and aren't falling in line anymore.
Then they'll go back to saying we're insignificant, just the lunatic fringe left, who they don't need.
(But president trump is still our fault, somehow.)
It is hilarious. Folks like you and me make up about
2 or 3% of the electorate, yet it's our fault whenever the Dems lose an election anywhere.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
And many of us have grown tired of being whipping-person
[whipping boy, where did that come from? Whipped boy, turned around?] and we are anti-everything now.
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A prerogative of Royal
A prerogative of Royal children, where a proxy was whipped to discipline them. This practice naturally stems from/results in the appearance of personality disorders...
Edit: still having a heck of time with my recs disappearing and often with trying to make them reappear/stick. Sometimes repeated clicks make the person's number go to zero??? and eventually, '17, including you' only to often disappear again?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Thank cat, I feared it was a strange glance at slavery.
But Royals? All is good. Sad in some cases but much money in the fam.
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Another child was hired in an
Another child was hired in an official position to take the beating whenever it was deemed that His Little Highness merited one. I always thought that was sick and absolutely nuts.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Perfection of proxy. How nice. Polished in Europe
and transplanted here. And see what has bubbled up. Sad.
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It probably started under the Tudors,
like a lot of other bad ideas. There was certainly one in Henry VIII's household (for disciplining his son Edward), and they are recorded sporadically after that - but I don't think before that.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Be honest: You want a unicorn, or, at the very least, a pony.
(I'm not speaking for myself, only miming the Hillarybots)
I think that...
numbers 3, 4, and 6 will be 1, 2, and 3.
Interesting but the article left out
the myriad lies over the years (saying transparency in quotes just doesn't quite cut it) and the overwhelming appearance of impropriety. IMHO.
Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos
What's hilarious about that article is...
The Hillbots in the comment section. An article is posted about who Hillary will blame if she loses and all of the Hillbots - proceed to blame everybody but Hillary for her troubles.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
Screw it
blame me, and lets get on with the torches and pitch forks to bring down the criminal 1% and their Emperor Has No Clothes obvious crimes!
My two cents....
RR
C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote
blame
I blame the DNC and the superdelegates for giving us Clinton in the first place. The supers who committed early on enabled the media to make it look like Bernie had an insurmountable deficit and could never catch up. It kept him marginalized until nearly the end. They all committed to a weak candidate that the people don't like. My Dem Senator (Michael Bennet) and my Rep (Ed Perlmutter) both committed early on and then saw the state and Perlmutter's district go for Bernie. I can't wait to not vote for them.
Yes do it
Don't vote for them. I get to vote for Merkley bc he came out for Bernie. ( I'm not even sure if he is running this election, but I will vote for him when he does) I will vote independent for all others.
Merkley was a Bernie
Merkley was a Bernie supporter, but I'm still disappointed that he has said zip (as far as I know) about Democratic Party corruption. I don't think I've ever had a Senator who aligns with my values/opinions more, but his inability to take on the party establishment makes me second guess my support for him.
P.S. Merkley is not up for re-election this year. Widen is.
Yeah, I agree. Merkley didn't endorse him until
April 13, 2016, and, was telling Bernie to step aside by the first week of June. [See below.]
and,
Barely two months. Makes me wonder, too.
[Edited: To add links to both articles.]
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and, therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
National Mill Dog Rescue (NMDR) - Dogs Available For Adoption
Update: Misty May has been adopted. Yeah!
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
That's exactly who and what I blame no matter what problem
comes up in regard to the 'Democratic' Party. It's a good thing I have my talking points all lined up in my head because telling people Clinton is the reason that the party is such a mess, or that it's because Clinton is the Democratic candidate the left isn't beating an Orange crazy person by double digits tends. Truthful statements like that does seem to give some people a case of the vapors though.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
And Bernie won the nomination
And Bernie won the nomination anyway - epic levels of blatant cheating were required to fake Hillary's 'win'.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Number 9 and Number 4
# 9 - I've never heard of a political party acting like their own voters were an annoying nuisance and formality and doing everything in their power to make sure they know it .
#4 - Everyone got the message that it was Hillary or the highway except for celebrated windmill tilter Bernie Sanders who must have had a WTF moment one night while sitting with Jane in twin bathtubs on a Vermont hillside. At least that's how I like to imagine it. There's never been a breath of fresher air in our crummy stagnant "No You Can't" politics than Bernie Sanders.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
The influence of the
The influence of the pathological corporate culture, the Clinton's arrogant ignorance and knowing that they had everything rigged for the coronation combined in the blatant expression by the DNC/Hill campaign/surrogates of the fact that actual voters were not required for Hill's win - until they realized that she was not yet actually Her Royal Corporate Queen managing the country for her paymasters and that faking the general election in the face of very obviously not having sufficient voters to make it look possible was definitely going to raise a major public stink. Now, they need ya to make it look good - so open wide and say 'Ouch!' Or not, as the case may be.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I'd rather imagine them in the same, oversized tub.
It's a little late to pretend
that there's distance between the major news corporations and the Clinton campaign. With the exception of Fox, they've acted like her own personal corporate version of Pravda for the last eight months; the words "everyone's pinata" (subtext: poor us) cannot provide adequate cover for their iniquities.
And yes, of course she and hers will stab you in the back, corporate media, when she doesn't get what she wants. You don't get credit for past loyalty. This is Veruca Salt you're dealing with.
Expect this:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mba2qb9do]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You don't understand
If the media was truly loyal they wouldn't have given any coverage to Donald Trump at all.
Because they did cover Trump, they stabbed Hillary in the back.
As the former head of CBS said, Trump is very good for the
bottom line and the for-profit press likes to amass m-o-n-e-y.
Besides, having a close presidential race is also lucrative.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Oh, and here I thought all that media attention for Donald
was at the behest of the Clintons, since he's the only person on the planet she had a chance of beating.
And yes, the use of past tense was purposeful.
Stabbed her? They gave her the only Republican opponent
she could (maybe) beat.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Course, they did the same for Trump
So they get owed either way.
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No, Hillary was going to "defeat" Bernie come hell or high water
That cake was baked way back in 2008.
Just suppose that they
Just suppose that they covered every bigoted, stupid, crass, ignorant and scary thing that Trump said - and he said a lot of those - because he was framed as the 'greater evil' intended to stampede voters to Hillary, the fracking, TPP-pushing, war-mongering, racist, 'Can't-Do-anything-for-the-Public' corporate choice, especially after Bush 3 was obviously not going to work? Makes a lot more sense looking at it that way, doesn't it?
Edit: Bernie was virtually ignored by the corporate media All Ready For Hillary, apart from a few dismissive and disparaging references, while he pulled in record crowds and generated great - and highly active - support, not to mention record numbers of donations from people who invested lunch/grocery money in the hope of a better future, or indeed of any future at all.
Trump got billions in free corporate media publicity, more than any other candidate, spent almost nothing until recently and did no real campaigning - but people were so desperate for an alternative to Hillary and Bill Clinton that he became a serious threat.
I know what that smells like to me... and am wondering if it'll backfire.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Because they did cover Trump, they handed her the only nominee
she had a good of beating in the general.
(Oops. Posted before I read the earlier reply of CSTS to the same effect.)
LOL Great minds...
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I think that HuffPo got the 'reason' for #4 slightly wrong;
yesterday, I heard an AP reporter interviewed on XM Radio, who took the tack that Bernie is partly responsible for the damage done to FSC's reputation; and, for the public perception of her (according to polling) as basically 'dishonest and untrustworthy.'
(Which is not to say that the Press and the PtB won't also throw the 'late to leave the race' meme in the mix, if she loses.)
A piece in The Hill today gives his campaign strategy for persuading his supporters to back FSC. (I believe that Bernie will be increasingly pressured to stump for her, and give TV and Press interviews as a surrogate--in order to keep the Press piranhas away, and satiate the demands of the Dem Party Leadership.)
Personally, I totally lay the blame on both of 'the Grifters,' and consider the low poll numbers to be well-deserved.
BTW, a poll that came to my cell phone earlier today, shows FSC edging up ever so slightly. But, it was based upon 'likely voters,' not registered voters.
[Edit: I haven't heard a MSM reporter, at least since Romney's March speech, who doesn't sound like they're in the tank for FSC. I listen to reporters' round tables only because there is some discussion of the progress of pending budget bills, etc., which I follow. Frankly, they all sound like 'sell outs' to my ears.]
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and, therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
National Mill Dog Rescue (NMDR) - Dogs Available For Adoption
Update: Misty May has been adopted. Yeah!
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
It would be a shame
if Bernie came down with a really nasty case of pneumonia and had to curtail his campaign-for-Hillary appearances.
A real shame.
What is "FSC"?
I'm guessing C = Clinton. FS?
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
I believe it's F**king
err, Former Secretary Clinton.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Thank you, Azazello. ;-) EOM
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
For some reason, I keep
For some reason, I keep thinking Fracking Shyster Clinton - or something less polite but equally descriptive. Not that I'd really call her a Fucking Shitheel out loud.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
(No subject)
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
This stuff is so simple!
Why does everyone make it so complicated?
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Because Occam's razor got dull?
My vote is primarily on Bernie
It is much easier to blame leftists and disloyal democrats.
The only road in the middle of which HRC's political
philosophy might be thought to reside, would be that comprised of the remaining lanes after Chris Christie's operatives had closed the left-most half.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Her middle of the road is the same
Chrissie Hynde talks about here:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeHAM93fuc]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
So HRC ignored the progressive Democratic base and pivoted
to attract all of those voters presumed to be in the sweet, sweet center. The centrists were supposed to carry her to victory in the general election, right?
That was the strategy, yes? Well, if she's having trouble beating Donald Trump, I guess that means:
1. HRC and her campaign are not attracting many people in the center; or
2. As I reported back in May, there aren't as many people in the center as there used to be; or
3. Both of the above.
In any case, HRC chose this strategy. She is responsible for the consequences.
"All Life is Problem Solving" - Karl Popper
Luckily for us poors around
Luckily for us poors around the world, that sweet, gooey-chewy center lost her a filling or 3.
If you can't Bern, Go Green!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_A4G1jkw24&index=27&list=RDaCyGvGEtOwc
The Pretty Reckless - Messed Up World (F'd Up World)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
She's also responsible for her own reputation as dishonest and
untrustworthy. Opacity, taking two years to respond to a subpoena and two years to respond to an FOIA request, plus lying stupidly repeatedly will get anyone that reputation; and that reputation is also losing her votes. Not to mention that she has been a lousy candidate. I really can't imagine any legit reason for all her huge speaking fees: she's a crappy, uncharismatic speech giver.
#1 She's a Terrible
candidate. She couldn't draw a thousand "supporters" to one of her Rallies if she offered everyone free ice cream and a free scratch off. "And, remember, I may suck as a candidate, but who else you gonna vote for? The Donald? wait... wait we've got free swag bags... "
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Agree. But even then she would have to
give the ice cream and the swag to the "crowd" after the rally. Kinda like the time-share promo where you have to stay for the entire 3 hour sales pitch before you get the free buffet. Bernie, OTOH, could pack a 10,000 seat arena with just 48 hours notice and the only freebee for the crowd was 90 minutes of truth.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
"90 minutes of truth." Love it!
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Would you eat anything she
Would you eat anything she had handed out to the non-billionaire poors?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
One more:
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Blame "We the People"
Ultimately, here's who they will blame: "If those stupid voters had voted for Hillary, she would have won. It's all those stupid voters' fault."
Since "voters" = the American people, it will be We the People's fault she lost.
Which would actually be true. We the People would be responsible for waking up, seeing that the emperor has no clothes, and taking action based on that knowledge.
The Dem establishment and Hillary people re-frame it in terms of blaming and shaming, in order not to take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
Dammit DARPA!
You told Hillary that the Strategic Time Ray Project would transport all voters to 1996 so that Hilary's campaign would still seem fresh and effective!
Heads will roll!
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
her heinous house
iirc there's a reason this happened?
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Would be even more
Would be even more appropriate if the TP was smeared in tar-sands oil and fracking fluid...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yes then as a toxic waste site
it would explain alot
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Cutting the supply and exhaust lines would be better.
I could figure that out. And I am old but clueful.
Altho spellcheck makes a squiggle.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
As a 72 year old millenial, I confess. It's my fault.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Good one. nm
Wrong question
The right question is: "If the Democrats lose, whose fault is it?"
If the Democratic party is really so afraid of a Trump presidency they have a clear path open: convince HRC to step down citing health reasons (or whatever makes her feel best) and then use whatever process they have to select Bernie.
They won't do it, but because they won't, I feel no guilt. It would be much simpler for the needed 10-1000 people to do this simple thing than it would be for them to motivate an entire generation that has been screwed over.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
The ones funding and fighting
The ones funding and fighting to win this election include TPTB, seeking global ownership so they can bleed the planet dry. And possibly vanish up their own asses once they've destroyed everything in the extraction process; no idea what they'll do on their very own dead, monster-storm-wracked, earthquake-riven world, and I'll bet neither have they.
Virtual life stuff won't work once the power's knocked off or the life support system glitches, after all.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
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