Leaving the 9/11/16 ceremonies in New York.
Approx 90 minutes after event started.
Went to daughter's apartment.
Campaign statement said something about her being bothered by the weather? Heat. Wrong day for that excuse.
Here she is, looks like collapsing, and being helped into her van.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Unfortunately, Bernie is just too good a soldier for the corrupt Democratic Party to ever challenge the pecking order. He would be the very first to publicly endorse and swear loyalty to Tim Kaine if something ever happened to Clinton.
But no matter how bad her health really is, they will just inject her with meds every now and then, and continue to prop her up (literally). She will not step down (even if she falls down).
I respectfully disagree about Bernie being first to nominate Kaine.
There hasn't been much discussion on this blog about it, but Inquistr was saying that Bernie was threatened before the convention...if that threat was no longer there? I would expect Bernie to make a well thought out decision based on the facts at that future point.
Here is the link if anyone wants to check out the WikiLeak story:
but there are no specifics like actual quotes to hang onto.
I do believe this is what transpired.
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I have been watching every day for updates...no, there are no e-mails or quotes yet. But what did you make of the comment that the Russian have some of these e-mails too?
and all the big guys in the EU - anyone who does any sort of surveillance likely has some part of the full trove.
I don't believe the Wikileaks source is Russia, however. I believe I saw last week that Assange was getting close to releasing at least part of what he has.
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She is NOT ABLE TO STAND STILL without support. If she's "moving" it seems she's a little better, but remembering when she and Joe Biden visited his old home in Scranton - the videos of her, she is HOLDING ON, or leaning on, something every time she is standing still.
Remember, how she was almost "stable" when yesterday she was leaning against that cement post, but as soon as she started to MOVE toward the van, she completely lost control.
Unfortunately, Bernie is just too good a soldier for the corrupt Democratic Party to ever challenge the pecking order. He would be the very first to publicly endorse and swear loyalty to Tim Kaine if something ever happened to Clinton.
But no matter how bad her health really is, they will just inject her with meds every now and then, and continue to prop her up (literally). She will not step down (even if she falls down).
can insert whomever they wish if she has to drop out. I doubt that it will be Kaine. My guess would be either Uncle Joe or John Kerry. It will not be Bernie because he is the last person the oligarchs would want in the White House.
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
She tried that after the head bobbing when she was asked a question by a young woman? Remember - that was REAL head bobbing - and when she could control herself, she held up the cup and said "You should try the Chai, it's delicious."
Nope, not this time....all on video. And when the WashPost take back "her health is not an issue" - it's an issue
The Secret Service folks are well-trained: notice how they close in to screen the view of the van after the collapse. Ford used to trip, Carter collapsed once (in a running race) and Reagan went down wearing a bullet; this looks way worse but maybe it's just CT—as some are want to say to anything they don't want to hear.
Notice how all the secret service, and he campaign try to block the view of her from any cameras. A little late, but they are intent on trying to play this up to the election.
sleeveless or short sleeved tops. If she was overheated, why not remove that jacket? First thing we all do when we are hot is remove our jackets.
Why dress that way in 83 degrees?
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first woman President. If she dies her first day in office I think she'll be happy, just as long as she goes down in history as the first woman President. The rest are doing what she tells them.
Another reason it would be a blessing if Jill were elected this year. Then Hillary might stop trying so hard. Second hardly counts. Nobody remembers who was President after Washington, after all (Jefferson? Adams? Franklin? Madison? One of those guys, I suppose).
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Or was she seated? I think a lot of older people would have a problem with standing for ninety minutes. If she was standing I wouldn't see this as that big a deal. But, if she was seated I would see it as a bigger, serious deal. If she starts to sport a poufy wig to conceal a helmet beneath, that would be a clue.
I think it's pretty clear she has some ambulatory issues, although they seem to be transitory and unpredictable. She has walked in parades, after all. Very mysterious.
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but I walk at least 4 miles a day. Hillary does not appear to be very physically fit anyway and she does not appear to have any stamina to endure the stresses of the Presidency. Even if she does not have a "major" health problem, she seems to have physical problems that would impede her ability to do what is a very demanding job. I go back to Huma's email to another aide in which she states that Hillary is often confused. Does the American public really want someone who has had a number of questionable physical episodes in the White House?
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with a foldable chair when she starts the sitting motion. I think Queen Victoria had an arrangement like that - She just started to sit, comfortable in the knowlege that a chair would cushion her ass at the appropriate moment.
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She seems unable to STAND STILL IN ONE PLACE without support. And if she's leaning against something, she is unable to regain motion. Happening more and more often.
Don't know how many times she can be injected with an "Epi pen" for whatever her issues are. But it's got to have a limit.
As reports flow in that Hillary Clinton has yet again had another “medical episode” in which she collapsed at a 9/11 ceremony and had to be rushed to the hospital, one can’t help but wonder about the many medical incidents she has had and some of her strange symptoms that have surfaced during appearances. In general, someone’s medical history is their own private business – but what about if they are in consideration to be elected as president of the United States? Do citizens deserve to know the private medical histories of presidential candidates?
should Hillary not be up to the task. Tim Kaine is simply window dressing. Bill will be the acting Vice President unless Hillary is forced out of the race now.
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I think Hillary is still JEALOUS of Bill getting to be POTUS, and messing up so badly, lacking all discipline, running the place as if it were a college bull session 24/7, when he wasn't harassing young women.
The women in Hillaryland called the people working with Bill "The White Boys" - this was when Maggie WIlliams was in charge of most things. They had no respect for what was happening, but couldn't do anything about it - Bubba was POTUS, and he never let anyone forget it. They had to drag him out of DC. He literally refused to leave. Sick. Still think Hillary thinks she could have done a much better job.
Agree, for decades she's wanted to be first woman POTUS. That's all that matters.
I've thought of this from time to time since her run in '08--well, except "jealous" wasn't the word I used, it was "pissed-off".
I think Hillary is still JEALOUS of Bill getting to be POTUS, and messing up so badly, lacking all discipline, running the place as if it were a college bull session 24/7, when he wasn't harassing young women.
As in "she thinks he blew it and now she wants to show him how it should be done".
I had never heard that they had to drag Bubba out of the White House (though it wouldn't surprise me). I could see him itching to get back in there, though--precisely to show the world what he should have shown them before he let his manhood rule his brain...
and shaking hands with people.
Tradition is, the new President doesn't enter the White House until the old one LEAVES TOWN - respect, and stuff like that.
Billy simply would NOT LEAVE - he just kept talking to people, shaking hands, until the ( I guess) Secret Service literally dragged him to his helicopter, then plane.
and shaking hands with people.
Tradition is, the new President doesn't enter the White House until the old one LEAVES TOWN - respect, and stuff like that.
Billy simply would NOT LEAVE - he just kept talking to people, shaking hands, until the ( I guess) Secret Service literally dragged him to his helicopter, then plane.
she just wants her name in the history books. all it takes is being elected and then you can step down. your name is still in the books as the first woman elected U.S. president. the fact remains as history even if someone steps in to replace her as the president.
This March 15, 2015 picture is perfectly compatible with the famous grimace at DNC--with two exceptions--but this is a snapshot--not a moving picture. The differences of medical importance are these:
1. Her left eye is tightly closed
2. Her head is in a neutral position.
This is more evidence of right frontal lobe epilepsy.
There are now many, many posts about this. BTW, you'll find more using Yahoo than Google -
Google really seems to be censoring any negative about Hellary
About the second link, it was quite compressive and included things about photosensitive epilepsy, probably for two reasons. One I only treated adults. Two, stroboscopic stimulation was administered to all my patients with suspected or newly documented epilepsy. Surprisingly, none of my patients ever had seizures activated by light sensitivity although many of the migaineurs did (made their headaches worse but did not cause seizures).
I worked closely with a neuro-optometrist, a very rare specialist indeed, who was better at diagnosing neurological problems than most of the ophthalmologists I dealt with could. He never told me about the Zeiss blue lenses, perhaps because they were not available in the U.S. Interestingly migraneurs are better when using a certain shade of pink in their lenses, as opposed to blue.
I'd never heard of the Zeiss lenses, ( and I've worn regular Zeiss individual progressive lenses for decades) it was Alex Ocana who introduced this subject - can't remember what essay.
Noticed in the pictures that Medusa was NOT wearing regular sun glasses. The blue was too dark, and the lenses just didn't look like sunglasses. Know she's worn contact lenses for years, so wondering what she's going to wear indoors now?
BTW - expect everyone knows by now to AVOID Google is you can, use Yahoo, or another search engine to get the truth about this. Google is worse than MSNBC
Where is the Secret Service? Letting her wander out onto the street and meet some little girl. I dunno. No comment, just passing "news".
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To my eyes, her hair color and weight are the same all day. She does have pics taken in different light, and she does hold her hands up in the later pic. If you look at her hip area though, she looks the same.
I just looked at a picture of her from earlier in the day. The fit of the upper pants leg looks tighter in Chelsea apt. Hillary than trade tower Hillary. That was one of the things that struck me "she pays how much for her clothes and that can't even fit them?"
I'm not saying it's a double. Just it's weird that I thought that AND other people did too.
That's what's weird about her appearance outside of Chelsea's apartment. It's a "what's wrong with this picture?" moment.
Obviously, it was staged to show her walking unassisted, but where is her security? Her aides carrying the back-up blackberries, Tums, cough drops and spare shoes? The Secret Service? I have literally never seen a recent picture of HRC unaccompanied by a herd of attendants.
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'where is the retinue?' sense. Secret Service went into the apartment? That I do not know. Profile is wrong in the nose.
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that is not Hillary Clinton, nose is wrong. Cue creepy music. No Secret Service detail might indicate that they did no go along with such a desperate move. Speculation.
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The story is catching fire right now in the media. There's no way that her campaign is going to be able to ignore health concerns and dismiss them as conspiracy theories anymore. That video just looks really bad, and she owes the voters the truth.
Both she and Trump need to submit to full medical examinations by objective third party physicians that can assess their health and disclose what's really going on. I wouldn't be surprised if this issue dominates the campaign coverage until she's finally forced to give in to growing public pressure.
It makes you wonder if HRC has disclosed anything to her own party. Is she hiding from them as well as from us?
It make you wonder if somewhere on a Sunday afternoon there are DNC folks pulling out the bylaws or rule books to see exactly what they might have to do about this.
and it looked very much like she had a seizure. Her body went right, then left, she froze, and went down. Big secret service men blocked the event from view within seconds. The Clintons and their entire apparatus of Obama administration officials, attack dogs, complicit corporate media, lackeys, employees, one percenters, and toadies are part of a vast, neocon and neoliberal conspiracy to shove her down our throats, no matter what. No stinkin' illness, emails, wars, economic crashes, or security breaches are gonna keep the Clintons from using the White House as the biggest pay-to-play scheme in history.
and it looked very much like she had a seizure. Her body went right, then left, she froze, and went down. Big secret service men blocked the event from view within seconds. The Clintons and their entire apparatus of Obama administration officials, attack dogs, complicit corporate media, lackeys, employees, one percenters, and toadies are part of a vast, neocon and neoliberal conspiracy to shove her down our throats, no matter what. No stinkin' illness, emails, wars, economic crashes, or security breaches are gonna keep the Clintons from using the White House as the biggest pay-to-play scheme in history.
over all else, but old age spares no one. Being near Hillary's age myself, I can't help but have a degree of sympathy for her position. It's very possible that her indominable will, and her intense and lifelong desire to succeed might have outstripped her poor old body's ability to see the mission through. We shall see. But I do not underestimate the power of the human will.
News photo from the NY Post shows H. Clinton wearing dark blue tinted sunglasses, the only pair of sunglasses anyone was wearing in either interior or exterior footage.... Look carefully at this photo, they are blue. it turns out that these are likely to be "Zeiss Z1 blue lenses to treat photosensitive epilepsy" That is to say anti-seizure lenses.
In addition films show something that may or not be a diazepam injector falling at her feet at the curb.
Some weeks ago, just after the FBI wouldn't indict Clinton, I predicted that both Clinton and Trump would be forced to resign from their campaign, using "health reasons" to cover up legal scandals and probable indictments. Assange should have the goods sometime this coming week, and they know it.
It looks to me like they are setting Clinton up... practically every time on stage recently she has had major, public, visible health problems covered up by lies, but with sufficient videos to give clues to vigilant researchers. The lie in Ohio was "pollen" (low pollen count and the fact her own doctor said she has "no allergies". This time its "heat exhaustion" (It was 79 F. and breezy). While wearing anti-seizure lenses.
In addition: in Ohio that asshole Kaine didn't bother to get up and take over the speech for her when it was obvious she needed some attention. he sat there unrolling a lozenge and popping it in his own mouth. This time... before she collapsed from "heat exhaustion" she is seen being pulled along by a nurse... nobody bothers to take off her coat, rub her forehead with ice water, put an AC fan (she can afford it) in her face, or pull out a shady umbrella. The poor lady is dragged along and allowed to collapse on camera from three different angles.
Early in the day (before this incident) I posted that it would take her "collapsing into an ambulance" to be interesting... an hour later it happened. They are no longer trying to cover it up except with lame media cover-up claims that its a nothingburger.
Earlier in the day and later in the day the same blue lenses on CNN. This second and third photo removes all doubt. She is wearing anti-seizure glasses.
if I wnat blue, grey or brown. Blue shades are quite common.
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Just knew those didn't look like ordinary sun glasses!
Thanks for that information - will be interesting to see what she wears indoors now???
If she's still wearing contact lenses, wonder if they can be made with Zeiss anti-seizure lenses too?
Agree now with all those who predicted it - she's not going to make it to election day.
She goes first, which gives Donald the excuse he needs to drop out. Never have thought he really wanted it, just wanted the attention of running.
This is f'ing frightening! I've been relishing all the talk/theories etc about her health and everything.
Wishing they were true. Yet when you see something like this? And you realize it really is true and anger and frustration aside, this woman is going to be president--or else Donald Trump is?
Previously I was resigned to being seriously pissed off for the next 4 years of her presidency...very pissed off at her stealing the primary and selling out the country...but...now I'm actually physically scared.
She has got to drop out.
She needs to set ego aside. What if this happens in the situation room? In the heat of war?
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I dug it up
http://caucus99percent.com/content/interesting-bernie-did-not-nominate-c...
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Bernie delegates should start preparing themselves
Just in case. Maybe those that left the Dems should re-register.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Bernie would be the first to ENDORSE Tim Kaine
Unfortunately, Bernie is just too good a soldier for the corrupt Democratic Party to ever challenge the pecking order. He would be the very first to publicly endorse and swear loyalty to Tim Kaine if something ever happened to Clinton.
But no matter how bad her health really is, they will just inject her with meds every now and then, and continue to prop her up (literally). She will not step down (even if she falls down).
...not predicting Bernie's decision...
I respectfully disagree about Bernie being first to nominate Kaine.
There hasn't been much discussion on this blog about it, but Inquistr was saying that Bernie was threatened before the convention...if that threat was no longer there? I would expect Bernie to make a well thought out decision based on the facts at that future point.
Here is the link if anyone wants to check out the WikiLeak story:
http://www.inquisitr.com/3495608/julian-assange-makes-claims-that-hillar...
Interesting artcle
but there are no specifics like actual quotes to hang onto.
I do believe this is what transpired.
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I have been watching every
I have been watching every day for updates...no, there are no e-mails or quotes yet. But what did you make of the comment that the Russian have some of these e-mails too?
Of course they do. So do the Chinese and the Israelis
and all the big guys in the EU - anyone who does any sort of surveillance likely has some part of the full trove.
I don't believe the Wikileaks source is Russia, however. I believe I saw last week that Assange was getting close to releasing at least part of what he has.
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THIS ONE DOESN'T COUNT
She was standing on a wooden box
It does count.....
After all, who needs three people propping them up in order to stand on a wooden box?
I don't...
74-year old Bernie Sanders didn't need that either ....
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Rethinking - and you're probably correct.
She is NOT ABLE TO STAND STILL without support. If she's "moving" it seems she's a little better, but remembering when she and Joe Biden visited his old home in Scranton - the videos of her, she is HOLDING ON, or leaning on, something every time she is standing still.
Remember, how she was almost "stable" when yesterday she was leaning against that cement post, but as soon as she started to MOVE toward the van, she completely lost control.
Bernie would be the first to ENDORSE Tim Kaine...
Unfortunately, Bernie is just too good a soldier for the corrupt Democratic Party to ever challenge the pecking order. He would be the very first to publicly endorse and swear loyalty to Tim Kaine if something ever happened to Clinton.
But no matter how bad her health really is, they will just inject her with meds every now and then, and continue to prop her up (literally). She will not step down (even if she falls down).
Actually I believe that he Democratic party
can insert whomever they wish if she has to drop out. I doubt that it will be Kaine. My guess would be either Uncle Joe or John Kerry. It will not be Bernie because he is the last person the oligarchs would want in the White House.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
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His votes are recorded - they'd have a fight
to circumvent him.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
More likely...
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
ABC just released video
showing her leaving a building, smiling, and saying she's "feeling great"
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/775005128147566594?ref_src...
Reporter: What happened?
HRC: It's a beautiful day in New York City.
Sorry, Hillary, this one is not going away.
"Have you tried the Chai?"
She tried that after the head bobbing when she was asked a question by a young woman? Remember - that was REAL head bobbing - and when she could control herself, she held up the cup and said "You should try the Chai, it's delicious."
Nope, not this time....all on video. And when the WashPost take back "her health is not an issue" - it's an issue
This IS NOT heat related.
Inauspicious
The Secret Service folks are well-trained: notice how they close in to screen the view of the van after the collapse. Ford used to trip, Carter collapsed once (in a running race) and Reagan went down wearing a bullet; this looks way worse but maybe it's just CT—as some are want to say to anything they don't want to hear.
Much better close up in this version of the video
Notice how all the secret service, and he campaign try to block the view of her from any cameras. A little late, but they are intent on trying to play this up to the election.
I've seen 2 videos of her collapse,
this is by far the more devastating of the two.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Miraculous recovery!
The story running on front page of Politico with picture showing her hours later on sidewalk "feeling great".
One wonders who may have met her at Chelsea's apartment and what if any medical care they provided? She seemed to make a miraculous recovery!
About an hour after seizures
of certain natures, one can be perfectly fine and unaffected.
There is no fucking way this was heat related. No way. NO WAY.
Fox running the before & after pics.
I noticed in the after pics that she is wearing flats. I believe she generally wears heels.
Everybody in that video is dressed in
sleeveless or short sleeved tops. If she was overheated, why not remove that jacket? First thing we all do when we are hot is remove our jackets.
Why dress that way in 83 degrees?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Especially since it wasn't 83 degrees
unless that was a local "spot reading" caused by heat reflecting back off the concrete. And even then it was breezy - shouldn't have been that bad.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
They are going to keep propping her up
even if it kills her. These psychopaths just don't care.
I think she's the head psychopath. She is determined to be the
first woman President. If she dies her first day in office I think she'll be happy, just as long as she goes down in history as the first woman President. The rest are doing what she tells them.
Another reason it would be a blessing if Jill were elected this year. Then Hillary might stop trying so hard. Second hardly counts. Nobody remembers who was President after Washington, after all (Jefferson? Adams? Franklin? Madison? One of those guys, I suppose).
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Well, *almost* nobody :-)
It was John Adams, for the record, and he was the first President elected by a political party.
After which the curse of partisan politics descended full blast....
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Adams, thank you! I am assuming if you asked the person on
the street, most would not be sure. I hope most would know Washington! You never know, given the state of our schools, I suppose.
In any case, I think firsts are historic and seconds less so. So for the sake of Hillary's health, let's elect Jill!
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I think at least half of the establishment will call it quits
If Jill Stein becomes President.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Was she standing for ninety minutes?
Or was she seated? I think a lot of older people would have a problem with standing for ninety minutes. If she was standing I wouldn't see this as that big a deal. But, if she was seated I would see it as a bigger, serious deal. If she starts to sport a poufy wig to conceal a helmet beneath, that would be a clue.
I think it's pretty clear she has some ambulatory issues, although they seem to be transitory and unpredictable. She has walked in parades, after all. Very mysterious.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I am slightly older than Hillary
but I walk at least 4 miles a day. Hillary does not appear to be very physically fit anyway and she does not appear to have any stamina to endure the stresses of the Presidency. Even if she does not have a "major" health problem, she seems to have physical problems that would impede her ability to do what is a very demanding job. I go back to Huma's email to another aide in which she states that Hillary is often confused. Does the American public really want someone who has had a number of questionable physical episodes in the White House?
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
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She was standing. I can certainly see wanting to sit down, but
it shouldn't make a person collapse like that.
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She should have a body person who moves into place
with a foldable chair when she starts the sitting motion. I think Queen Victoria had an arrangement like that - She just started to sit, comfortable in the knowlege that a chair would cushion her ass at the appropriate moment.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Also someone to remove her jacket and fan her if she's going
to be easily overcome in "the heat".
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interesting - "ambulatory issues"
She seems unable to STAND STILL IN ONE PLACE without support. And if she's leaning against something, she is unable to regain motion. Happening more and more often.
Don't know how many times she can be injected with an "Epi pen" for whatever her issues are. But it's got to have a limit.
...other news/rumors...
Amy Schaeffer asks what we've been saying:
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3500640/what-is-medically-wrong-with-hillary-cl...
Hospital?
This is the first I've heard of that. I thought she went to Chelsea's apartment.
Inaccuracies like that ruin credibility.
That may have been written before The Spin
that she was "fine" and they "just took her to Chelsea's apartment". So perhaps don't be so hard on the writer?
Very peculiar to me that someone could have
significant medical issues at that age and yet still want to take on a four year commitment to such a demanding position. It doesn't make sense.
Power is the deadliest addiction of all
It's why dictators never give up power until they keel over dead, are forced out at gunpoint, or are assassinated.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Plus Bill will be available to run things
should Hillary not be up to the task. Tim Kaine is simply window dressing. Bill will be the acting Vice President unless Hillary is forced out of the race now.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
This is only my opinion,
I think Hillary is still JEALOUS of Bill getting to be POTUS, and messing up so badly, lacking all discipline, running the place as if it were a college bull session 24/7, when he wasn't harassing young women.
The women in Hillaryland called the people working with Bill "The White Boys" - this was when Maggie WIlliams was in charge of most things. They had no respect for what was happening, but couldn't do anything about it - Bubba was POTUS, and he never let anyone forget it. They had to drag him out of DC. He literally refused to leave. Sick. Still think Hillary thinks she could have done a much better job.
Agree, for decades she's wanted to be first woman POTUS. That's all that matters.
You're not the only one with it
I've thought of this from time to time since her run in '08--well, except "jealous" wasn't the word I used, it was "pissed-off".
As in "she thinks he blew it and now she wants to show him how it should be done".
I had never heard that they had to drag Bubba out of the White House (though it wouldn't surprise me). I could see him itching to get back in there, though--precisely to show the world what he should have shown them before he let his manhood rule his brain...
Bubba wouldn't stop talking
and shaking hands with people.
Tradition is, the new President doesn't enter the White House until the old one LEAVES TOWN - respect, and stuff like that.
Billy simply would NOT LEAVE - he just kept talking to people, shaking hands, until the ( I guess) Secret Service literally dragged him to his helicopter, then plane.
The Bushes weren't pleased.
Bubba wouldn't stop talking
and shaking hands with people.
Tradition is, the new President doesn't enter the White House until the old one LEAVES TOWN - respect, and stuff like that.
Billy simply would NOT LEAVE - he just kept talking to people, shaking hands, until the ( I guess) Secret Service literally dragged him to his helicopter, then plane.
The Bushes weren't pleased.
Yeah, because Bill is looking fit as a fiddle...
...and sounding sharp as ever these days. Oh, wait...
it does
if for some reason you're looking to end up with tim kaine as president.
you know, like he would be for X amount of time every time clinton hit the floor.
who the hell is kaine, anyway, other than practically-a-republican?
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
Very peculiar
Perhaps she is not concerned about serving 4 years but just wants the glory of being the first woman president.
i believe that's all it's EVER been about
she just wants her name in the history books. all it takes is being elected and then you can step down. your name is still in the books as the first woman elected U.S. president. the fact remains as history even if someone steps in to replace her as the president.
Hellery has emerged. Says she feels great. See video
Avoids all questions about what happened.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
I'm sure it was nothing.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Date
Photo original appeared March 15, 2015 on USA Today
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d0d6ea9c8cb1467dc9824c432537d21736847837...
From the Light House.
I had never seen that picture before
This March 15, 2015 picture is perfectly compatible with the famous grimace at DNC--with two exceptions--but this is a snapshot--not a moving picture. The differences of medical importance are these:
1. Her left eye is tightly closed
2. Her head is in a neutral position.
This is more evidence of right frontal lobe epilepsy.
right frontal lobe epilepsy
Alligator Ed,
please read Alex's comments about the Zeiss anti-seizure blue lenses she was wearing today.
And I found this about them too:
http://www.epilepsy.com/connect/forums/living-epilepsy-adults/finding-ze...
http://www.epilepsy.com/article/2014/3/shedding-light-photosensitivity-o...
There are now many, many posts about this. BTW, you'll find more using Yahoo than Google -
Google really seems to be censoring any negative about Hellary
Thank you for bringing those links to this stream.
About the second link, it was quite compressive and included things about photosensitive epilepsy, probably for two reasons. One I only treated adults. Two, stroboscopic stimulation was administered to all my patients with suspected or newly documented epilepsy. Surprisingly, none of my patients ever had seizures activated by light sensitivity although many of the migaineurs did (made their headaches worse but did not cause seizures).
I worked closely with a neuro-optometrist, a very rare specialist indeed, who was better at diagnosing neurological problems than most of the ophthalmologists I dealt with could. He never told me about the Zeiss blue lenses, perhaps because they were not available in the U.S. Interestingly migraneurs are better when using a certain shade of pink in their lenses, as opposed to blue.
AE, thanks go to Alex Ocana for the Zeiss info
I'd never heard of the Zeiss lenses, ( and I've worn regular Zeiss individual progressive lenses for decades) it was Alex Ocana who introduced this subject - can't remember what essay.
Noticed in the pictures that Medusa was NOT wearing regular sun glasses. The blue was too dark, and the lenses just didn't look like sunglasses. Know she's worn contact lenses for years, so wondering what she's going to wear indoors now?
BTW - expect everyone knows by now to AVOID Google is you can, use Yahoo, or another search engine to get the truth about this. Google is worse than MSNBC
Something else that never occurred to me until now ...
Epileptics aren't allowed to drive, right?
Guess who hasn't been driving herself for years ...
That occurred to me a while ago n/t
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
"Secretary Clinton, what happened?"
"None of your business. Trump is a very, very bad man."
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Mid 70's, breezy day. Folks were dropping like flies.
Or not.
Twitter has that as a body double, not HRC
Where is the Secret Service? Letting her wander out onto the street and meet some little girl. I dunno. No comment, just passing "news".
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Ok. This is weird.
When the video of her outside Chelsea's apartment came on, I wondered initially if it was Hillary because I thought she looked skinnier.
est 25 lb lighter. Hair changed color, too.
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Looks like the same person, IMHO
To my eyes, her hair color and weight are the same all day. She does have pics taken in different light, and she does hold her hands up in the later pic. If you look at her hip area though, she looks the same.
Disagree.
I just looked at a picture of her from earlier in the day. The fit of the upper pants leg looks tighter in Chelsea apt. Hillary than trade tower Hillary. That was one of the things that struck me "she pays how much for her clothes and that can't even fit them?"
I'm not saying it's a double. Just it's weird that I thought that AND other people did too.
I'm reading things about "body doubles" now
like, "that wasn't her" in that picture.
That never occurred to me. Jesus Christ, and they would, too...
When is she not surrounded by a scrum of SS agents?
That's what's weird about her appearance outside of Chelsea's apartment. It's a "what's wrong with this picture?" moment.
Obviously, it was staged to show her walking unassisted, but where is her security? Her aides carrying the back-up blackberries, Tums, cough drops and spare shoes? The Secret Service? I have literally never seen a recent picture of HRC unaccompanied by a herd of attendants.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Exactly
this is the "The Dog Didn't Bark" moment--that woman, in that picture, is not her.
I'd put money on that, if only I had some to bet with.
It would never have dawned on me, except for an odd
'where is the retinue?' sense. Secret Service went into the apartment? That I do not know. Profile is wrong in the nose.
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I was actually just looking into that
If that's not her and it gets found out? OMG, sweet baby Jesus, would they really do that? They'd have to be really desperate and really stupid.
You think they're not? (evil grin)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Looking again at the profile shot with the girl
that is not Hillary Clinton, nose is wrong. Cue creepy music. No Secret Service detail might indicate that they did no go along with such a desperate move. Speculation.
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There needs to be full disclosure.
The story is catching fire right now in the media. There's no way that her campaign is going to be able to ignore health concerns and dismiss them as conspiracy theories anymore. That video just looks really bad, and she owes the voters the truth.
Both she and Trump need to submit to full medical examinations by objective third party physicians that can assess their health and disclose what's really going on. I wouldn't be surprised if this issue dominates the campaign coverage until she's finally forced to give in to growing public pressure.
...does her own party even know?...
It makes you wonder if HRC has disclosed anything to her own party. Is she hiding from them as well as from us?
It make you wonder if somewhere on a Sunday afternoon there are DNC folks pulling out the bylaws or rule books to see exactly what they might have to do about this.
I saw the video
and it looked very much like she had a seizure. Her body went right, then left, she froze, and went down. Big secret service men blocked the event from view within seconds. The Clintons and their entire apparatus of Obama administration officials, attack dogs, complicit corporate media, lackeys, employees, one percenters, and toadies are part of a vast, neocon and neoliberal conspiracy to shove her down our throats, no matter what. No stinkin' illness, emails, wars, economic crashes, or security breaches are gonna keep the Clintons from using the White House as the biggest pay-to-play scheme in history.
I saw the video
and it looked very much like she had a seizure. Her body went right, then left, she froze, and went down. Big secret service men blocked the event from view within seconds. The Clintons and their entire apparatus of Obama administration officials, attack dogs, complicit corporate media, lackeys, employees, one percenters, and toadies are part of a vast, neocon and neoliberal conspiracy to shove her down our throats, no matter what. No stinkin' illness, emails, wars, economic crashes, or security breaches are gonna keep the Clintons from using the White House as the biggest pay-to-play scheme in history.
They may prevail
over all else, but old age spares no one. Being near Hillary's age myself, I can't help but have a degree of sympathy for her position. It's very possible that her indominable will, and her intense and lifelong desire to succeed might have outstripped her poor old body's ability to see the mission through. We shall see. But I do not underestimate the power of the human will.
native
Blue lenses and a resignation set up.
News photo from the NY Post shows H. Clinton wearing dark blue tinted sunglasses, the only pair of sunglasses anyone was wearing in either interior or exterior footage.... Look carefully at this photo, they are blue. it turns out that these are likely to be "Zeiss Z1 blue lenses to treat photosensitive epilepsy" That is to say anti-seizure lenses.
In addition films show something that may or not be a diazepam injector falling at her feet at the curb.
Some weeks ago, just after the FBI wouldn't indict Clinton, I predicted that both Clinton and Trump would be forced to resign from their campaign, using "health reasons" to cover up legal scandals and probable indictments. Assange should have the goods sometime this coming week, and they know it.
It looks to me like they are setting Clinton up... practically every time on stage recently she has had major, public, visible health problems covered up by lies, but with sufficient videos to give clues to vigilant researchers. The lie in Ohio was "pollen" (low pollen count and the fact her own doctor said she has "no allergies". This time its "heat exhaustion" (It was 79 F. and breezy). While wearing anti-seizure lenses.
In addition: in Ohio that asshole Kaine didn't bother to get up and take over the speech for her when it was obvious she needed some attention. he sat there unrolling a lozenge and popping it in his own mouth. This time... before she collapsed from "heat exhaustion" she is seen being pulled along by a nurse... nobody bothers to take off her coat, rub her forehead with ice water, put an AC fan (she can afford it) in her face, or pull out a shady umbrella. The poor lady is dragged along and allowed to collapse on camera from three different angles.
Early in the day (before this incident) I posted that it would take her "collapsing into an ambulance" to be interesting... an hour later it happened. They are no longer trying to cover it up except with lame media cover-up claims that its a nothingburger.
Original photo from NY Post
Zeiss Z-1 Anti-Seizure Lenses
From the Light House.
Another photo wearing blue lenses
Earlier in the day and later in the day the same blue lenses on CNN. This second and third photo removes all doubt. She is wearing anti-seizure glasses.
From the Light House.
If I had seizures, I'd want some of those glasses
Since I don't, I'll stick with the ones I'm wearing in my avatar.
My only wish is for Bernie to be her replacement, and for him to pick a VP who doesn't pander to Wall Street. A girl can dream.
Just for the record, I always wear shades and am always asked
if I wnat blue, grey or brown. Blue shades are quite common.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Accuracy.
Her doctor has not said 'she has no allergies'. Her doctor wrote that she has "seasonal pollen allergies."
See the dr's letter.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/31/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
Thanks
I stand corrected...
From the Light House.
TY Alex!!!!
Just knew those didn't look like ordinary sun glasses!
Thanks for that information - will be interesting to see what she wears indoors now???
If she's still wearing contact lenses, wonder if they can be made with Zeiss anti-seizure lenses too?
Agree now with all those who predicted it - she's not going to make it to election day.
She goes first, which gives Donald the excuse he needs to drop out. Never have thought he really wanted it, just wanted the attention of running.
John Kerry vs. Mitt Romney????
Oh gawd, please no! Not Kerry vs Romney n/t
I hate it when my conspiracy theories are right...
I mean, all rancor aside.
This is f'ing frightening! I've been relishing all the talk/theories etc about her health and everything.
Wishing they were true. Yet when you see something like this? And you realize it really is true and anger and frustration aside, this woman is going to be president--or else Donald Trump is?
Previously I was resigned to being seriously pissed off for the next 4 years of her presidency...very pissed off at her stealing the primary and selling out the country...but...now I'm actually physically scared.
She has got to drop out.
She needs to set ego aside. What if this happens in the situation room? In the heat of war?
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"I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it. "
-Niccolo Machiavelli
"Sorry Hillary"
-TheJerry
This picture was posted over at WoTB.
https://mobile.twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774994400766267392/photo/1
Look at how the woman in blue is walking with Hillary, holding her hand. My comment was its like Annie Sullivan with Helen Keller.
The Zombie Walk
She is being pulled along in a zombie walk according to some twitter inhabitants.
From the Light House.
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