David Seaman first fired from HuffPo over Hillary Health article. And now...
He mysteriously deleted his own twitter account last night. In a youtube video, he cryptically explains he had to quickly delete all his tweets that contained excerpts of leaked Clinton emails (from wikileaks).
Length: 1:55
So that was mysterious. And it's leading to all sorts of speculation like:
1) Might the Clinton machine be coming after him legally for posting private emails?
2) Is he scared shitless from a midnight call from the Clinton Admiration Society?
Now he says is leaving town for a few days...
Maybe Snowden is getting a new roommate.
For those not familiar, David Seaman was fired from HuffPo last Sunday for an article he wrote that questioned Hellery's health. The article was removed from HuffPo.
Seaman's bio:
100 Most Influential People in Blockchain - Richtopia. Huffington Post/AOL video contributor. Fan of math, currency, wine.
Previously a guest on CNN Headline News, BBC World Service, FOX News, ABC News Digital, Coast to Coast, RT America, Young Turks, and elsewhere.
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Did anyone get a copy of the article?
Love to see it.
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I have not seen the original article.
It was gone before news of his firing. And I don't know if he reposted it anywhere. Most of his tweets were supporting his conclusion that he was fired for daring to question Hellery's narrative -- the silent hand of Hellery.
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It's looking like
We're not too far removed from the societies that arrest and/or execute critics of dear leader. If they manage to wrest control of the internet from the people, we'll have to go back to print media.
Me too! But I just got sidetracked by his other video
from a few days ago, shot right after Huffington canned him. Very interesting, he's clearly concerned about what else might happen to him. Not that I blame him, given the mysterious deaths of Seth Rich and Sean Lucas.
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He def got railroaded by the Clinton machine.
And he is not just some high skool kid with an internet connection.
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Another useful thing the movement could do
is provide WAY more support for folks like this. That's a project I'd like to be part of in the future.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
How do we do this?
And is there a way to do it now?
I don't think we can wait for the future ...
Well, I've been trying to find out how many people
this has happened to over the past 6 months, because I've been hearing stories about that long, but I didn't keep track of them. Now I'm trying to reconstruct a list of people this has happened to, in prep for writing a diary about it.
But as far as how to help these folks, yeah, there's things we can do, but people may not like them much.
The easiest, and least objectionable, is exactly what he said: watch his videos, spread the word, keep the story alive. That way maybe the hegemony will decide it's not worth pursuing the guy. This just worked fairly well for someone I like on Twitter, Nina Illingworth, who got shadowbanned after talking about Hillary Clinton, election fraud, and the Saudis. A lot of us hammered Twitter publicly, and the shadowban got taken away.
What we really need is a People's Press. IOW, we need independent media that is networked together--all the various websites and podcasts and bloggers and actual trained journalists need to be connected in a larger network. And--here's the part people won't like--what we're doing with fundraising for caucus? a lot more of us, like maybe all those 20 million or more who supported Bernie, need to be doing that for the entire network of indie media.
We were raising 40 or 50 million dollars a month during the campaign. That's not sustainable. But how about a quarter of that? Say we could raise 10 million dollars a month (all of us, together). That would be 120 million/year. What if we networked these indie media sites together--they'd still have total editorial and site management independence--and then pumped 120 mil/year into that network? Each site would get its share.
In fact, how about the 20 million or more people who supported Bernie--how about we OWN that network together, like the town of Green Bay, WI owns the Green Bay Packers? How about we each own a share in the network, in exchange for the dues we pay in? If/when the network ever becomes profitable--which it probably would become more so as the older forms of media become less popular--we might even, eventually, make a little money off of it in exchange for our investment. That may or may not ever happen. But what would be sure to happen is that we would get a lot more and better news for our money.
To get to the point of what's happening to this guy, a network like that would also provide for defense. Some of those millions could be spent on legal help for members. Also, if any member of the network was attacked, the entire network could light up in defense of their rights as journalists. That would be the only content requirement I'd have if I were on the board of such a thing: you have the right, as a member site, to publish anything you want, and you won't be required to publish anything by the network--EXCEPT if a member has come under attack, at which point all sites/members together start pushing stories about the attack on said member.
That's just the beginning of my thinking on this issue. This is the kind of thing a visible and trusted person like Sanders--or any number of his visible and trusted surrogates--could have set in motion, rather than fiddling around with the Democratic party's electoral games.
Because that's the issue: the reason we can't have this (we can't have nice things, heh) is simple: Who the hell am I, and why should anybody listen to me? Why should anybody trust me with their money? Why should Glenn Greenwald, who can't even be bothered to notice when I tell him that the words "liberal" and "Democrat" are not interchangeable, listen to me and accept the notion of making The Intercept a member of an indie media network?
Update/Edit: It occurs to me--though this would probably put people's backs up--that the network should maybe have a fact-checker as part of it. Likely this would step all over people's toes, but if we wanted to use indie media to provide good journalism, an important part of good journalism is being based on fact and reliable sources. It would be nice to have that be a principle to which member sites were dedicated.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
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Can't Stop,
I love your idea about indie media. Have been thinking along the same line for a while.
On its face an alternative network
sounds logical but the objections are
1) we don't have time to build that, it'll take years
2) it'll be sandbagged like Air America, Gore's foray, Al-Jazeera Americs, etc
Our Betters control the means of transmission, and if anything were truly effective on the Net it would be blocked as it's happened in Iran, China, Russia, Ukraine, Egypt, etc
The solution to my mind is simply to break into, and break up, the existing Media Cartel. It could be done in one or two years if the blogosphere would focus on the need to'first, seize the presses.' Not the left blogosphere, but the whole political spectrum's net commentary. Because
1) every faction detests, distrusts, and hates Media Central.
2) history shows that back awhile when the FCC was about to make centralization even greater than it was (2006 or so?) Congress got literally over a million emails, letters, etc in one week. This was the left, right, church groups, educators and just folks. The plan was stopped.
A blogosphere drive copied focus on a dozen areas of action. Just two here:
1) Change FCC rules to 'one company, one outlet, two markets.' CNN could be, say, in New York and Atlanta. The rest get sold off. Fox can have a TV station in NY or a newspaper, but not both. This will create literally thousands of indepently owed outlets. No more unified message.
2) Crowdsource Media Ad buying. Of course Media Central will refuse to air/print it. At which point the blogosphere unleashes there continuous, mass demonstrations outside the refuseniks offices. "Free Speech My Ass!"
I think a huge flaw in approaching the issue on our controlled press is the refusal we have to directly remove the knife at our throat. Not thinking through how to turn the existing structure to our ends. Building an alternate just ain't going to work.
And I'm not afraid of right wingers, church groups, etc stating their views as long as the left view gets equal exposure. We'll win most times, and maybe even learn something that will lead to better thinking by us.
Others things: a blizzard of 'failure to fulfill Public Good' license challenge filings to the FCC, Congress, and copies to the newsreaders/'journalists'. Eminent domain challenges.
The condition with our use of the internet to date is like we've landed at Normandy with a beachhead established, but instead of going directly towards the mainland, figuring sooner or later the enemy will disappear because we've got our fit in the door.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Of course, none of these things contradict one another.
Those who want to ask the government to change FCC regs, pressuring them through crowdsource media ad buys and in-street protests, should do so--it sounds like a great campaign. Now would be a good time to start it, actually--people got genuinely pissed at the way the media treated the Bernie Sanders campaign. I've never seen so many people pissed at the press.
This would be the real teeth of the campaign: a blizzard of 'failure to fulfill Public Good' license challenge filings to the FCC, Congress, and copies to the newsreaders/'journalists'. Eminent domain challenges. (and the crowdsourced ads would use "failure to fulfill public good" and " free speech" as their central ideas.
I don't see what this has to do with NOT establishing a real indie media network, or why both efforts can't happen simultaneously. Maybe you think your campaign has to succeed before mine can start. I don't see why anybody should wait.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The only thing is focus
on a specific aim from the blogosphere, full political spectrum. IMO, don't see any reason why both approaches can't be used; just think what I outlined is easily doable and quickly so.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
At the very least, the mutual defense pact
Ought to happen, sooner rather than later.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The collectively owned indie
The collectively owned indie media unified defense network thingy idea is freaking brilliant!
With a set-up like that, they really CantStoptheSignal - if only we were going to be allowed to keep a free internet...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Thanks. It's just like what the Greeks did
about Helen of Troy. Radically different circumstances, of course.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Speaking of Sean Lucas,
has anyone heard what happened to him- how he died? I never heard anything except his girlfriend found him.
I found a cached version of the article
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3ALwXcO-agP6sJ%3Aww...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
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Geez, that article seems pretty tame actually
We should send our own Alligator to give him some pointers on the depth of this issue.
Funny too that he states in the article "Look guys, I need to keep my job and platform. ... We all know what happens when you speak a little too much truth about the Establishment-beloved Clintons." Prophetic.
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Hey--are you in Gainesville?
So am I!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
No I'm in connecticut
I was referring to Alligator Ed.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Oh! I was thinking this:
http://www.alligator.org/
Now Gainesville's premier newspaper! But I kid the Sun.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks for finding that link, MsGrin
Wow, this guy did put his job and possibly his life on the line in writing the article and putting together the video.
I wonder how far out of town he is going and for how long?
I think it is fair to question her health, especially because of her head injury.
Mine was 41 years ago this weekend and I know that I still have problems with my memory and anger especially when I get stressed out.
The problem with my memory makes it very difficult for me to understand complicate tasks or filling out forms.
Now imagine the stress of being president.
Someone on progressive wing
just posted a link to a Reuters article that says HC told the FBI she hasn't been able to recall her classified information training since suffering her head injury. Where's Alligator Ed today?
Here is the link to the Reuter's article.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN11829I
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Thanks, dk!
I hope he's alright/not
I hope he's alright/not forced into hiding.
(Might be kinda snarky above... *crosses fingers*)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
... They should know better
Maybe something more like 'non-Clintons strangled altogether'?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Interview with Seaman
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Jeeeeeezzzz....
that poor guy is really scared! Don't blame him. Can you imagine what must have been said to him? Or how he was threatened? Yikes...hope someone like Assange, or Snowden, or Glenn Greenwald can come to help him.
Here's a cache to his tweets
this must be from right before he deleted the account:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EJvewDzApQAJ:https...
You're damned right I've already saved a local copy
Let's be careful out there people.
You are always one step ahead of the bastards. Hahahaha.
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Screenshots are your friend :)
Was it here a couple months ago
that some C99 person fell all over themselves to shout down a Rothschilds conversation? That's SOP at the Sleazy Orange, but I am almost certain it was here.
Wherever it was, that person can kiss my fat white ass
I probably started the snowball,
but the problem was somebody who posted three consecutive anti-Clinton comments, each nastier than the last, harping on the Rothschilds and only the Rothschilds. The Clintons have a lot of unsavory friends of all persuasions - and they should all be publicly called out. No anti-favoritism of any kind (except anti-oligarchy in general - that's fair enough).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I watched but didn't post...
There were racial slurs if I recall, against Rothschilds, and the whole thing blew way up before the moderators stepped in and turned off comments
There are no racial slurs here
As long as you understand that, you don't have to feel free to pucker up
(not that you'd have to feel any other way to do that, I'm just sayin'...)
But seriously--here's another Person With Influence, right fucking cozy with Hillary Clinton, in black and white. I'm sick of this shit and you should be too, and what makes them special besides their name and their money? Not a goddamn thing....
If that's Loony Lynn de PUMA,
she, personally, deserves ridicule for the stupid things she, as an individual, has said and done. But that's just her, not her whole family back to the first primordial protoplasmic globule....
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Kudos for the G&S reference!
N/t
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Unfortunately
we own our relatives, even when we don't want to
But seriously, why/how does any person have the that kind of influence over someone as huge as Hillary Clinton?
What makes the Rothschild name so very, very special to our highest levels of government?
This is the kind of discussion that needs to happen sometime....
Filthy Rich - ANYONE Who is Filthy Rich
MegaMoolah is the ultimate equalizer and the ultimate key to all levels of government.
The Clintons especially want to be Filthy Rich, and figure that the best way to become so is all kinds of quid pro quo deals with the Filthy Rich. Cash for access, cash for favors, cash cash cash.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
The Rothschilds are not just "anyone"
Filthy rich or not. Sorry, but there's another answer to that specific question.
Filthy Rich buys power
Always has, always will. Doesn't guarantee the keeping of that power, though (the history of Jacques Coeur is instructive in this regard).
Wikipedia complains about too much reliance on primary sources(!) - WTF, Wikipedia?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Yes, and this particular family name has been buying power
far longer than they should have any further expectation of being able to continue doing, haven't they?
Whose government is this, anyway?
You should be asking. Sounds to me, though, like you just accept that and would never push back. Feh. Suit yourself, lady. We should ALL be asking. We should now be asking why certain families are more important than that goddamned piece of paper that we're all supposed to just ignore except when it's convenient for the state tools who suck up to such families. The Rothschilds have been buying power with their filthy-richness for far too long, and they--and anyone else who thinks they own a government of hundreds of millions of people with their fucking MONEY--must be stopped. Period. By any means necessary, if that's what it will take.
It might have been me. If so,
It might have been me. If so, it was because I have found in my travels around the left and right ends of the political blog/essays/comments spectrum, that antisemitism creeps in so easily. Jews don't rule the world and they are no more or less responsible for the evil in the world today. Evil knows no religion. I think everyone here knows that and respects that. My comment, if it was I, was motivated by, I think a common aspiration here, to steer dialogue away from the usual divide and conquer tactics of the oligarchy and to keep this space safe for all to contribute without ethnic hatred.
No one person should try to control a discussion
because of a fear that something offensive might be said later. Particularly if it's a charge lodged at a discussion where the offense either didn't originally exist at all, or was so benign as to have to have the offense explained in multiple threads--thereby ending the original discussion.
There is nothing more offensive to me as a grown-up than someone who would stop all adult conversation because of their "sense" that "someone" might say something "offensive" to somebody else. And I'm not talking about the admins when I say "Kiss my fat white ass". They have to please all for the sake of their actual business. And there are those who clearly take full advantage of that and put them in a bad position by lodging complaints. Complaints which involve concern about controlling a discussion among adults. A discussion that no one is even compelled to participate in if they don't want to.
I'm not re-arguing the finer points of that, but I hope we all consider it a lesson learned. Because it was really instructive to more than one person, near as I can tell.
I don't understand your anger
I don't understand your anger. I'll just say that I wish you well and if it was I, than it was not due to the chance that the conversation would lead to antisemitism, but that it was already present in the writing. We can disagree about where that line is. We certainly seem to see it differently. You can call it being overly sensitive or controlling free dialogue, but why go to ethnic slurs, making generalizations because of one's religion, race, etc? How does that further the conversation in inclusive, compassionate and thoughtful ways?
That is unfortunate
but perhaps re-reading this part might help?
Those with such concerns may not elect to see the whole picture, just the part that they believe exists--which may or may not actually be present.
And again, we're not arguing that particular long-ago thread. So please, use this thread as instruction, won't you? All that some would ask is that we please look and read more carefully before going with our gut on such concern next time, mostly because we're all adults here. Because you see, in my travels around the left and right ends of the political blog/essays/comments spectrum, I find that antisemitism is often seen where it flat-out doesn't actually exist--yet it always seems to be used as a cudgel against further discussion anywhere near the actual topic at hand.
If you can't see why anyone would be angry over such a thing, I honestly don't know what to tell you.
Again, we see that line
Again, we see that line differently. I accept that. Hope you do, too. I respect many things you have written and have responded to several, as I recall. Here, we disagree. No need to suggest that I kiss a body part.
Again, we're not talking about
the original post, particularly since you initially weren't sure if it was even you I directed my subsequent remark at to begin with.
Look: it is one thing to "steer dialogue" elsewhere. It's another thing entirely to have an entire discussion shut down altogether over something that is, by your own admission now, purely subjective.
If you'd like to be respectful of my viewpoint to this end, perhaps a simple acknowledgement that anyone angry about such a thing is, in fact, completely justified might help you?
"Because you see, in my
"Because you see, in my travels around the left and right ends of the political blog/essays/comments spectrum, I find that antisemitism is often seen where it flat-out doesn't actually exist--yet it always seems to be used as a cudgel against further discussion anywhere near the actual topic at hand." This was not respectful of my opinion. It seems you decided something I saw, didn't exist. I don't have the power to shut down an essay. If you believe, I complained, just ask. I didn't. I only have the power to comment - which I will continue to do. I plan to be respectful of you even in times of disagreement. I hope that you will, as well. I'm done for now. Sunday dinner time.
Then perhaps
whether one is "respectful" or not is just as subjective?
Bless you.
Why does it help him to remove his Twitter account? Not sure why erasing his own public footprint is helpful in dealing with a Clinton.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Is it certain that he removed
Is it certain that he removed it himself, and not under duress? It's the Clinton faction/backers who want the evidence covered up and kept out of the public eye...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Anybody heard of/remember Izzy Stone? He took on the gov't
regularly and wasn't afraid of their threats and the visits from the FBI.
There are others who publish unafraid of the consequences.
He works for the neoliberal Huffington Post? bad choice for an employer.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Not a lot of choices out there.
Not everyone can work for the Intercept, or shadowproof, or IB Times. (I'm not actually sure whether shadowproof pays its contributors)
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Really?
Izzy Stone is about as good an example here as Ed Murrow would be. Stone died before the Internet became a household word.
David Seaman
I wish David Seaman well, however the First Amendment does not apply to The Huffington Post deleting stuff off their website.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
I think it is more a question of
a political party controlling media outlet editorial decisions. As with everything Clinton, it's tough to prove anything. But the shear mass of incidents make it easy for a free thinker to draw statistical conclusions -- or at least question the volume of coincidences.
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The private company gives a lovely layer
of deniability to the political interests that are almost certainly responsible. But as Hillary says about almost everything--no smoking gun.
Capitalism is wonderful because all you have to do is hire or suborn a private company to do rotten BS for you, and then suddenly the matter falls under their right to do what they want with their private property--meaning that it's automatically justified in almost every case.
You just have to make sure that no political faction or branch of the government (esp military) does those rotten things directly. A private company can do whatever they wish. Just ask Milton Friedman.
That makes freedom of the press essentially meaningless in the United States, since "the press" is almost entirely comprised of private companies. The only issue at hand is whether the government gets to directly interfere with the affairs of those private companies.
But, since the government also has its automatic get-out-of-jail-free-no-moral-accountability-here card, also known as "national security," apparently, since 9/11, there's nothing to keep the government from suppressing stories it doesn't like either.
That's handy. The private sector can cite the right to private property as its unchallengeable justification for suppressing stories, and the public sector can cite the need to protect the national security as its unchallengeable justification for suppressing stories. Add a little salt, stir, and eh voila!--you've got a captive press. Awesome.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The private company aspect of this is un-
Constitutional as fuck, IMO.
So maybe not First Amendment
BUT SUSPICIOUS AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!
Wonder if Her Heiniousness really thinks she can just hunker down and hold out until November.
No press conferences - but of course, as her sycophants, including Kaine say "she talks to reporters all the time" - as if those canned interviews, with RESTRICTED questions, prearranged, are the same as a press conference. Do they think anyone really believes that shit!
Any body wanna bet if it was a real press conference - the questions coming at her would cause, well, another one of those "head bobbings" which of course ain't anything to worry about...sure!
Stikkk deranged Hill.
Check out a pre-emptive threat of undetectable by the FBI of hacks by Russians.
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/293970-clinton-treat-cyberattack...
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Add Matt Bruenig
and Nina Illingworth to the list of people encountering problems like these.
I'm trying to compile a list, perhaps do a diary.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Seriously? Nina?!
I didn't know of her 'til the Foggy Bottom article (which I've bookmarked). I guess that's what did her in?
FSM, this country sucks.
No, it was after that, and it was less severe than
what happened to this guy--she got shadowbanned on Twitter. A lot of people made a stink, and the shadowban was removed.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
what is a "shadowban"??
I do try to keep up, I swear
They don't actually ban you from Twitter--
they make it so your posts don't show up except to your followers. If you aren't registered on Twitter, for instance, and you just go by to read it rather than post--which a surprising number of people do--you wouldn't see anything from me if I were shadowbanned.
In the more severe form of shadowbanning, only the poster herself can see her posts--and b/c she can see them, she thinks everybody else can, but nobody else can.
In the form Twitter's using, they let your followers see your posts, but nobody else.
Nina saw her site traffic go down by 50%.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Ahh, okay
and how do we know this? By traffic hits?
Clearly, I know just enough to be dangerous
You sign out of Twitter, go to the Twitter website
without being signed in, and search for a Tweet you know you made. If it doesn't show up, you're likely being shadowbanned. Get trustworthy friends/allies to do the same; if nobody can find your Tweet, you can be pretty damned sure you're being shadowbanned. Do this on multiple Tweets, multiple subjects.
Actually, here's Nina's article on it:
http://www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/08/29/twitter-uber-alles-theyve-come...
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
She had been recently talking about
the Saudis
Hillary Clinton and election fraud
make your own guess as to which it was that got the shadowban brought down
I'm guessing the latter, though who knows?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Can't read huffpost anymore.
They are fully in the grasp of the DNC. When Trump first entered the race they decided to post anything about Trump in their Entertainment section. They really blew it in understanding Trump and the gop base. Looks like they are making up as each day, multiple anti-Trump pieces overwhelm everything else on their landing page. The site is mostly pure stenography from the Clinton campaign.
HuffPo
I stopped reading it about the same time as I stopped lurking at the GOS
around March 15th, it seemed as if there was a coordinated edict throughout the media world to go full tilt for her heinous and anything else
was considered an act of treason.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
They have a disclaimer they post whenever they report on Trump
basically says he's a joke of a human being and they don't take him seriously in any fashion, including as a presidential candidate. I believe they call him a liar straight out, as I recall. I'm sure it will be in each piece where he is mentioned if someone wants to search over there.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
The guy is definitely freaked.
I can't say I blame him.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
True. And started process of removing himself off the grid.
Like he wants to wipe out all traces of himself.
Or wiping out his contacts?
Or is he protecting his contacts or family and friends?
Huffpo has been in the tank
for Clinton since day one. They're not even trying to hide it. I can certainly sympathize with David Seaman though. He may not have been aware of how biased the site has become. However I very much doubt that anyone would want to kill him.
native
He's obviously been threatened...
...and I think this really gives it away. At 1:11 he says
The people, united, will never be defeated.
raises suspicions more when they threaten...
The fact that he has been threatened does add credence to his story (or another one he was working on) in my own mind. Why would they be trying so hard to shut him down if this was false?
The fact that her campaign has not come forth with REAL medical notes to counter the false ones, makes it easier to believe that the real notes wouldn't be any more favorable than the faked ones.
Clinton could shut all this speculation down by being 100% transparent with her health (giving up her privacy rights), rather than threatening and silencing honest journalism.
And yet, Hillary chooses not to shut down all this speculation
and someone is choosing--obviously--to threaten and silence anyone who gets too close.
What the fuck?
good WaPo analysis...
Just found this story that talks about her transparency. "How Hillary Clinton helped create what she later called the ‘vast right-wing conspiracy'".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-was-right-about-...
Not going to quote from it as need to read it through. The gist of it is that Hillary's obsession with privacy, back in Dec 1993, started all this and has spawned this continual digging into her "secrets".
Reagan had dementia, and we weren't told.
Just propped him up and let Nancy and her crystal ball run the country.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Bad example
we've had this come up more than a few times. There have been "sick Presidents that people weren't told about" and not just Ronald Reagan.
The difference is that Ronald Reagan was coherent when he ran for the Presidency the first time. It wasn't until after 1981--the first year of his first term--that his health became an issue.
Hillary Clinton will be the first candidate where the American press actively appears to be conspiring to hide a serious health condition that she already has, active, NOW. Before the election. This is unprecedented and it is grotesquely, abysmally WRONG. And so is anyone trying to sweep it under the rug.
I don't know, this isn't passing my smell test.
There are still plenty of articles about Hillary's health. I just googled it (and supposedly Google is screening and giving more positive results than other search engines) and most of the articles are right wing, but so what? There's also some MSM interest, such as this, http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/31/no-reports-on-clintons-health-are-not-con... (which I just took screen shots of).
I'd never heard of D.G. Seaman until this incident. So HuffPo thought he went too far. But I don't think he needs to fear for his life or delete his Twitter account. But now he's becoming famous. Seems like a drama king to me. YMMV.
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We do not know who's contacted him directly or what's been said
He did say that he's gotten a large number of comments that he may have trouble trying to stay alive. Are any of those actual threats or are they merely helpful speculation? We have no way to discern...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
We also don't know what else
We also don't know what else he might have been working on that might have tipped off the "Clinton hush squad".
True. It's all speculation. Just sayin.
I don't see any reason for them to target him specifically when he's just repeating what's already out there.
And you have to admit, in this paranoid age of celebrity, suddenly he's the most famous journalist on this story. If he did this on purpose, he's clever.
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