New Abedin Email Release from Judicial Watch

Judicial Watch Press Release

Judicial Watch: New Abedin Emails Reveal Top Clinton Foundation Executive Doug Band Sought Diplomatic Passport from Clinton State Department

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Abedin responded to Band request: ‘Ok will figure it out’

Emails also reveal Bill Clinton/Doug Band Sought State Department Favors for Foundation Supporters Andrew Liveris, Chris Ruddy, and Lynn de Rothschild

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 510 pages of new State Department documents, including a 2009 request by Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band for diplomatic passports for himself and an associate. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aide Abedin responded to Band’s request positively, saying, “Ok will figure it out.” The emails show Hillary Clinton forwarding classified information to Abedin’s unsecured, non-state.gov account. The emails also show Bill Clinton sought a meeting with Mrs. Clinton for a major Clinton donor with State Department officials and Hillary Clinton herself pushed for a joint event with the Clinton Global Initiative. Band also pushed for and obtained special help from Abedin for seven-figure Clinton Foundation donor Chris Ruddy, of Newsmax.com.

Although an exchange sent from Sidney Blumenthal to Hillary Clinton concerning the “disastrous nature of the Obama trip” and the U.S. being “totally out of the loop in Berlin – no ambassador” with the expectation that “Germans and Russians will now cut their own separate deals on energy, regional security, etc….” had previously published by the State Department, it was unknown until now that Clinton forwarded this exchange containing classified information that was redacted for security reasons to Abedin’s unsecure non-state.gov account

The new documents included 37 Hillary Clinton email exchanges not previously turned over to the State Department, bringing the known total to date of such emails uncovered by Judicial Watch to 228 of new Clinton emails (not part of the 55,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department). These records further appear to contradict statements by Clinton that, “as far as she knew,” all of her government emails were turned over to the State Department.

The Band request was for a special diplomatic passport for himself and his associates – an unidentified “JD” and apparently Justin Cooper, formerly a key member of Bill Clinton’s personal office and the Clinton Foundation who has been linked to registration documents for and the shutting down of the email server at the center of Mrs. Clinton’s State Department emails controversy.

The Band-Abedin exchange went as follows:

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Jul 27, 2009 10:32 AM

Subject:

Need get me/ justy and jd dip passports

We had them years ago but they lapsed and we didn’t bother getting them

From: Huma Abedin [Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:38:39 PM

To: Doug Band

Subject: Re:

Ok will figure it out

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations strictly limits the granting of diplomatic passports to members of the Foreign Service, their family members, or those working on U.S. government contracts. According to 22 CFR 51.3:

A diplomatic passport is issued to a Foreign Service officer or to a person having diplomatic status or comparable status because he or she is traveling abroad to carry out diplomatic duties on behalf of the U.S. Government. When authorized by the Department, spouses and family members of such persons may be issued diplomatic passports. When authorized by the Department, a diplomatic passport may be issued to a U.S. Government contractor if the contractor meets the eligibility requirements for a diplomatic passport and the diplomatic passport is necessary to complete his or her mission.

The newly released Abedin emails also contain additional instances of the Clinton State Department’s granting special favors to major contributors to the Clinton Foundation. A July 27, 2009, exchange of emails begins with Abedin advising Clinton scheduler Lona Valmoro that “wjc” (William Jefferson Clinton) wants special treatment for high-dollar Foundation donor and Dow Chemical’s CEO Andrew Liveris. Dow donated between $1 million and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, making it one of the largest corporate donors in Foundation history.

From: Huma Abedin Huma@clintonemail.com

To: Valmoro, Lona J

Sent: Monday, Jul 27 06:02:01 2009

Subject:

Wjc wants to be sure hrc sees Andrew Liveris, ceo of dow tomorrow night. Apparently he is head of us china business council. Is he definitely going to be there?

From: Valmoro, Lona J [VlamoroLJ@state.gov

Sent: July 27, 2009 6:03:54 AM

To: Huma Abedin

Subject: Re:

I will check. He declined our invitation to dinner tonight at State.

From: Valmoro, Lona J

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:24:08 AM

To: Huma Abedin; Narain, Paul F [Clinton aide]

Subject: Re: CEO of dow

Paul, Andrew Leveris, CEO of Dow Chemical, is going to be at the dinner tomorrow night. We would like HRC to see him, perhaps they can do a brief pull aside upon arrival. Huma, would that work for you?

From: Huma Abedin [AbedinH@state.gov]

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:24:55 AM

To: Valmoro, Lona J, Huma Abedin, Narain, Paul F

Subject: Re: CEO of dow

Yes pull aside on arrival

From: Narain, Paul F

Sent, Monday, July 27, 2009 7:56 PM

To: Valmoro, Lona, Abedin Huma

Subject: RE: CEO of dow

Lona, I have arranged this pull aside for on the arrival in the Hold Room across the hall from the ballroom, immediately prior to the Secretary’s entrance and remarks.

The Abedin emails include a mid-August 2009, email exchange in which Band urges Abedin to follow up on a request from Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy to set up a meeting with then-Ambassador to Panama Barbara Stephenson on behalf of lobbyist Amb. Otto Reich, President Reagan’s ambassador to Venezuela who maintained high-level government positions during the tenure of both President George H.W. Bush and President George Bush. In early September, Ruddy then was contacted by State Department Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs, Roberta S. Jacobson, at the behest of Band and Abedin, in reference to Ruddy’s concerns about Wilson Lucom, whose estate was embroiled in a heated multi-million-dollar lawsuit. Ruddy’s Newsmax Media Inc, made a contribution to the Clinton Foundation of between $1 million and $5 million. The emails show the responsible official was put in contact with Ruddy.

From: Christopher [Redacted]

To: Doug Band [Redacted]

Sent: Mon Aug 17 3:40:56 2009

Subject: Panama

Otto Reich is arriving in Panama tonite on the matter I discussed. He was hoping to meet with Barbara Stephenson or her Charge this week. He has not heard back from her. Any “air’ support you can give for this meeting would be helpful. Thanks! – Christopher Ruddy

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Aug 18, 2009 10:37 PM

Subject: Fw: Panama

Would be good to do quickly.

Even a call

From: Huma Abedin

To: Doug Band

Sent: Wed Aug 19 4:51:35 2009

Subject: Re: Panama

Both of our point people are out on vacation. I can ask someone junior to deal with this?

From: Doug Band

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:20:13 PM

To: Huma Abedin

Subject: Re: Panama

Sure

From: Jacobson, Roberta S

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:32 AM

To: ruddy [Redacted]

Subject: Panama case

Mr. Ruddy: Your inquiry about the Lucom case has been passed to the Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs here at State. I apologize for not getting you a response on our position last evening, but we will get back to you as soon as possible today. Many thanks. Roberta Jacobson.

From: Christopher Ruddy

To: dband

Sent: Fri Sep 04, 08:01:20 2009 7:32 AM

Subject: FW: Panama case

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Fri Sep 04 08:18:43 2009

Subject: Fw: Panama case

From: Huma Abedin

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:37:21 AM

To: Doug Band

Subject: Re: Panama case

She’s the dep assistant secretary for the whole bureau.

The Panama desk guy is on leave so I asked that she at least reach out.

(Newsmax publishes a regular Judicial Watch column.)

The new Abedin emails also include an email exchange between Sidney Blumenthal and the then-Secretary of State in which Blumenthal proposes a Clinton Global Initiative meeting in Ireland. Hillary Clinton forwarded Blumenthal’s email to Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Doug Band saying, “I think this is a good idea and see no conflict.” Band then responded that he and Bill Clinton think it is as “great idea.”

Again, Hillary Clinton’s involvement in CGI violates her ethics pledge to stay of out of Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative business. Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton on January 5, 2009, in a letter to State Department Designated Agency Ethics Official James H. Thessin:

“For the duration of my appointment as Secretary if I am confirmed, I will not participate personally and substantially in any particular matter involving specific parties in which The William J. Clinton Foundation (or the Clinton Global Initiative) is a party or represents a party….”

In an email exchange in late August 2009, billionaire businesswoman Lynn Forester de Rothschild intervened directly with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to set up a Parade magazine interview for journalist Les Gelb, assuring Clinton, “He said he would give you a veto over content and looked me in the eye and said, ‘she will like it.’” Abedin then instructed State Department aide Phillip Reines. Reines acquiesced responding, “Yes, we’re trying to find a date that works for Les, but he is a little, shall we say, picky.” Rothschild is a longtime Clinton Foundation supporter who in mid-May of this year held a $100,000-a-plate fundraiser for the presidential candidate.

Also in the documents is an August 2009 communication from Hillary Clinton to her aides Abedin and Lauren Jiloty asking for the phone numbers of Declan Kelly, Clinton’s former economic envoy to Northern Ireland who is co-founder and CEO of Teneo.

“The idea that the State Department would even consider a diplomatic passport for Clinton Foundation executives is beyond belief,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “These emails show various violations of national security laws and ethics rules and further confirm that Hillary and Bill Clinton are personally implicated in the Clinton Foundation pay to play scandal.”

This is the eleventh set of records produced for Judicial Watch by the State Department from the non-state.gov email accounts of Huma Abedin. The documents were produced under a court order in a May 5, 2015, Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit against the State Department (Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00684)) requiring the agency to produce “all emails of official State Department business received or sent by former Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin from January 1, 2009 through February 1, 2013, using a ‘non-state’.gov email address.”

On August 22, Judicial Watch released 725 pages of new State Department documents, including previously unreleased email exchanges in which Hillary Clinton top aide Huma Abedin provided influential Clinton Foundation donors special, expedited access to the secretary of state. In many instances, the preferential treatment provided to donors was at the specific request of Clinton Foundation executive Douglas Band.

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What should we make of Newsmax guy donating to the Foundation?

From jwa13 in comments - Hat Tip to you!

a diplomatic passport provides immunity from ANY FORM OF DETENTION OR PROSECUTION in the country(ies) to which the "diplomat" is assigned, and also provides immunity from detention or prosecution by any country(ies) through which the "diplomat" passes on his/her way to/from the assignment. This includes total immunity for the "diplomatic" baggage (which is regarded legally as an extension of the "diplomat's" person) while in transit -- consequently, diplomatic passports are a favored tool of the smugglers' trade --

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there sure are a lot of condiments on it...

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Gëzuar!!
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In case anyone has forgotten, she of the Lincoln Bedroom visits at WH, AND, the leading PUMA when she created the Democrats for McCain Group in 2008 Smile Doncha just love the loyalty.

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royalty. the obama/clinton team definitely knows to whom they owe their scruples.

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Any scruples the Obama/Clinton ever had have clearly been fried with Huma...

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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sounds like it should be the latin word for multiple instances of hummus, which brings to mind falafels.

i like falafels, but these falafels are a lie:
falafel-close-up-full-size-copy-1200x744.jpg

i'm not sure i can live when falafels are a lie. maybe this conversation will help my art improve, or maybe i just need to call my mom.

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The claim is that this request for diplomatic passports was made because the Foundation & Entourage Staffers were going to accompany Slick Willie on a trip to North Korea to secure the release of Americans being held there...

It's good to know the Clinton's will always come up with a cover story...

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I don't know how much smoke that JW needs to dig up before they find the gun that 'might' lead to the Clintons being held accountable for their actions while she was at the state department.

Off topic, but the amount of money spent on state dinners and other WH functions is staggering.
I doubt that any of the people who attend these events even give a second of thought to the hundreds of thousands of people in this country who are food challenged.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

JW, AP, vice news, the RNC etc just wanted to get their FOIA requests answered & had to go to court to do it.

It takes the government to bring a criminal case. Maybe those 50 republicans who asked lynch to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the foundation will get one. Maybe the justice dept can't wiggle out of the congressional perjury investigation.

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Of a diplomatic passport are?

And this, this is rich.

Band also pushed for and obtained special help from Abedin for seven-figure Clinton Foundation donor Chris Ruddy, of Newsmax.com.

Newsmax is one of the right wingiest of the right wing outfits. Why would it's head donate to the foundation (access of course) and Hillary's aides are doing favors for it? But Hillary hates all that stuff they write about her. Guess not so much.

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......... I would hazard a guess that a diplomatic passport carries that kind of weight.

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a diplomatic passport provides immunity from ANY FORM OF DETENTION OR PROSECUTION in the country(ies) to which the "diplomat" is assigned, and also provides immunity from detention or prosecution by any country(ies) through which the "diplomat" passes on his/her way to/from the assignment. This includes total immunity for the "diplomatic" baggage (which is regarded legally as an extension of the "diplomat's" person) while in transit -- consequently, diplomatic passports are a favored tool of the smugglers' trade --

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When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.

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Emphasis on "diplomat".

Who's Band again?

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These people hoover up money for doing sweet fuck all.

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Seriously. I wonder if you could reverse engineer a smoking gun from organizations like this.

Who else was on the list and whom do they serve or have direct access to?

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http://coca-cola-corporate.com.yeslab.org/ourcompany/intl_adv_council.html

Dr. Rolf-E. Breuer (Germany)
Chairman of the Supervisory Board
Deutsche Bank

Mr. Tarun Das (India)
Director-General
Confederation of Indian Industry

Honorable Stuart Eizenstat (United States)
Partner Covington & Burling
Former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury and
Former Ambassador to the European Union

Honorable Daniel Glickman (United States)
Director of Politics
John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University
Former Secretary of Agriculture

Honorable Carla Hills (United States)
Chairman and CEO of Hills & Company
Former United States Trade Representative

Honorable Richard C. Holbrooke (United States)
Vice Chairman Perseus
Former United States Ambassador to the United Nations

H.E. Luiz Felipe Lampreia (Brazil)
Chairman of the Brazilian Center for Foreign Relations
Former Brazilian Foreign Minister

Mr. Minoru "Ben" Makihara (Japan)
Chairman Mitsubishi Corporation

Mr. Mohamed Mansour (Egypt)
President Mansour Group of Companies
Chairman Mantrac
President American Chamber of Commerce in Egypt

Honorable Lynn Martin (United States)
Former Secretary of Labor
Chairs Deloitte & Touche's Council on the Advancement of Women

Mr. Cyril Ramaphosa (South Africa)
Executive Chairman Rebserve Limited
Non-Executive Chairman Johnnic Holdings
Chairman of the Black Economic Empowerment Commission

H.E. Renato Ruggiero (Italy)
Vice Chairman Citigroup European Investment Bank

Mr. Peter Sutherland (United Kingdon)
Chairman and Managing Director of Goldman Sachs International
Non-Executive Chairman BP p.l.c.

H.E. Ernesto Zedillo (Mexico)
Member of Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations
Co-Coordinator of the UN Millennium Development Goal's Project Task Force on Multilateral Trading and Financial Systems
Member of the Foundation Board for the World Economic Forum

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that I have glimpsed once or twice. Once you are in, there are so many perks. In this world you basically get paid a lot for doing piss all and you don't even need to interact with plebs. Private jet or first class travel paid for. Limousine paid for. Fine dining paid for. Crazy expensive hotel suite paid for. Meet, exchange a few pleasantries and get paid handsomely. Reward your benefactors with favors like putting them on the board of advisors for your corporation or organization.

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I've always had a hard time believing that the Clintons willing pay a 30% federal tax rate. Suitcases of cash to a Swiss bank account would avoid that while leaving the tax returns looking good for public release.

Pure speculation of course.

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I don't have a link at my fingertips, but when one looks at the donor pages of the Clinton Foundation, my recollection is that on the $5-$10 mil page you'll find the Clinton Family Foundation as a donor to the 'main,' if you will, Clinton Foundation. So any money they 'earn' which they donate to their family foundation goes against what taxes they owe, I believe. I don't have a head (or the finances) for this kind of stuff, but I'm sure it offsets what they pay in some fashion.

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Cocaine smuggling has mentioned. It was one of the early crazy ass rumors about Bill in the 90s.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1996/10/clinton-scandals-inc...

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When the beloved "Coke" was first marketed, before it became associate with rotting teeth, expanding waist-lines and rust-free car bumpers, it was originally marketed as a "tonic". The coca in cola-cola comes from cocaine, the first legally-marketed non-caffeine "pick-me-up". Now being a lover of trait ion, the Coca-Cola company is just making plans to re-start the company's original product, cocaine-cola. I don't see a problem. It's just tradition.

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if you're old enough to remember pouring coke over the lug nuts on a wheel of your car to loosen them?

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(and by BOTTLE, it was a glass bottle at that point), that it would have dissolved in a day or so. People did that for school science experiments when I was in elementary school, I beiieve.

I've never been trained in or proficient with mechanics

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exactly like cocaine.

just sayin'.

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Thank you.

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That cannot be explained away even by the most skilled of liars. This is an entirely new set of crimes being brought forth. Conspiratorial in nature.

Let's see what, if anything meaningful, MSM does with this. Thanks for all your hard work.

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When enough is enough. Used to be any hint of impropriety was damning. Now? She has to be caught with her hand actually in the cookie jar -even then... How much does it take for the public to be fed up?

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With your congress critters? Do they know that you are fed up? They don't know if they don't hear from you. If they hear from enough of us...

Dan rostenkowski sure heard his constituent's disapproval of the disasterous health care law (this was in 1989 ). I swear tomatoes were involved, but I can't verify that.

The law was repealed.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19890818&id=D-BLAAAAIBAJ...

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I contact my congresscritters and let them know when I'm pleased and when they fuck up. If they don't know it's broken, they can claim ignorance. I do not want to give them that opportunity. Wink

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botched health care plan regulations. He was dis-invited to return to the bowels halls of Congress due to an all-expenses paid vacation at a lodging in the Gray Bar Hotel chain.

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Does anyone know if there is a reputable (i.e., not right-wing rag) website that has summarized all these Clinton issues that are actually well-supported? No one in congress is going to have time or even bother to look at any web page links they might be sent in an email. Nor will they pay attention if every time a new Clinton finding comes out they receive an email. They will need a regular letter, mailed through USPS, that outlines every important revelation with an appropriate reference for each to the relevant, original, website. Or copies included with the letter.

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-- there's far too much of it -- but I would say Sirota would be a good start.

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... doesn't matter what the hoi & the polloi think or want.

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When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.

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AND crumbs all over the table.

MAYBE then we'll see some outrage on the Dem side. Likely not until.

This is BEYOND ridiculous at this point.

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No smoking gun, no quid pro quo, blah blah.

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because D >>> R, dontchaknow.

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because Republicans, besides being our mortal enemies, are also our friends.

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At least Powell is pushing back against her... my respect for him increased.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

himself as perfect. No way on earth was he going to allow her to portray him as as much of a wrongdoer as she is.

Meanwhile, he knew Tenet was talking bs, yet put on that wretched dog and pony show at the US to convince America it had a reason to attack Iraq. (He was chosen because he was polling then as the most trusted member of Bushco. Hillary did the same in the Senate, she being a popular former First Lady and wife of perhaps the most popular Democrat at that time. So, Democrats would listen to her more than any other Democrat. And they both did their best to convince America. They can both kiss my entire bottom.

Twice.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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just because someone else did it? Childish games.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

year old never gets away with, her supporters will run with it, as though it actually means something. How many times have we heard "Powell did it too" about the email server, and that is flat out false.

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That's her theme song. Got it now! Diablo

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Crazy

The "Joey did it first" defense never worked for three-year olds. But, when you have the fate of nations, in your hands, it's ironclad.

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Thu, 09/01/2016 - 6:57pm — Shahryar

The reaction of Hillbots will be "Colin Powell did it"

because Republicans, besides being our mortal enemies, are also our friends.

And precedent-setters and mentors...

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in the egregious!!

Jobs and benefits for the 'right' boys and girls. Makes Aladdin's cave look like a sad cafe just off the road to Scranton, PA.

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Gëzuar!!
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None of this would be germane to a presidential impeachment. But it shows the utter arrogance and disregard for just simple propriety. I noticed at TOP that Dems are more than happy to allow Clinton family involvement with the Clinton Foundation and even 6-figure speeches by Bill if she wins. I can't see how the Clinton's can walk away from the money power of their positions even out of the Oval office.

All this is going to do is give the House post-Trump gop which will crush the dems in 2018 all the fodder they need to justify impeachment.

Thanks for all the updates.

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Wouldn't it just be simpler all around for the voters to impeach her in 2016?

Spread the word about this misconduct. Let your elected officials know that you expect accountability in government, regardless of the party. Why are we making excuses for this? Why are we not outraged as a nation? Why is it that only a few Republicans have had the guts to stand up for justice here? Why is the DNC turning a blind eye to this?

Has there been a class action suit against either the Foundation or the Clintons yet by the people they have harmed?

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obligation to spend the money on any particular group of people (Haitians, say).

The donors know perfectly well that not much of the money actually goes to charity. They don't care, they're successfully buying access.

It seems like only the donors would be harmed, i.e., not getting what they paid for; but they're actually getting exactly what they want.

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and impropriety by our elected leaders, harm all of us.

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But as far as legal standing, I don't think anyone has standing except the donors.

I wish the Haitians had standing, but if the money isn't pledged for that specific purpose, I'm betting they don't.

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Given that the Foundation would be represented by some of the most expensive attorneys on the planet, not thinking any firms would go up against them... one nearly only gets the best justice they can pay for.

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elenacarlena's picture

I'm thinking the Clintons are lawyers or would consult with lawyers, so be careful to say something like, "a percentage of your donation will go to Haiti," so they can skate because they didn't say exactly how much. They know how to use weasel words. So not only would fighting them be very expensive, I'd bet they just skirt the laws, whatever they are, so it would ultimately be fruitless.

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WaterLily's picture

She'll still "win."

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Impeachment is supposed to start 20 Jan 2016 according to my congress critter.

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MsGrin's picture

...and I think it is VERY sad the Dems are playing into the their hand. It's diotic, frankly.

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tapu dali's picture

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Good thing I don't write many checks anymore.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

in the impeachment of a Democratic president--but I don't care for election fraud.
I'm fine with the impeachment of a "president."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

All the world is a stage.
Is all the RW and "LW" trash talk that which distracts us from goddam truth?
MsGrin, you are doing an outstanding job of revealing the stage and the script.
On all this, we need to walk out before the final act and demand our money back.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

MsGrin's picture

if you've been following that suit.

They can keep my twenty-seven dollarses, as far as I'm concerned. but please give me back my candidate who would NOT be impeached on day one.

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Damnit Janet's picture

it reads"

Liquor in the front
Poker in the rear

Anything can be had for a dollar.

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"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

jwa13's picture

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When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.

Bollox Ref's picture

Years ago, I caught a PBS programme (possibly Frontline) that I think had something to do with money in politics.

Anyway, the interviewer caught up with Strauss at some big, monied event, and asks "Who are these people?" And Strauss replied "The right people".......... and laughed.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

lotlizard's picture

Now watch me wipe this drive.

Eight years of Dubya in a pantsuit.

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WaterLily's picture

Eight years of Dubya in a pantsuit giant potholder.

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tapu dali's picture

vote Der Drumpf /snark

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Shockwave's picture

Newsmax is an entity that is influential with the alt-right and vice-versa.

But they got $$$.

And $$$ makes politics run;

pol·i·tics
noun
the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

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The political revolution continues

Alex Budarin's picture

"Poli" comes from the Greek word for "many."
"Tics" are blood-sucking insects.

[I think Gore Vidal came up with this joke.]

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"All Life is Problem Solving" - Karl Popper

never heard of it until she gave them free advertising.

Politicians have apparently decided that trying to win us over is a waste of them; trying to scare us into voting for them is much easier and faster.

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This evidence should be re=presented to James "I'm reasonable" Comey to see if it passes the smell test. If he doesn't detect the malodor, then his nose should be shoved into it.

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I am ashamed of you. Don't you realize that you are taking part in the swiftbosting of the Foundation? Think of the children. /s

I kid you not. I had CNN on in the car driving to work this AM. The Clinton mouthpiece they had on was lamenting the swiftboating of the Foundation taking place.

oh, pu-leze. These are their own damn emails, and you only have to have a little understanding of how big city machines, like Daley's in Chicago, work to recognize what's going on here.

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hester's picture

bring her down b/f the election. If she was caught shooting someone, on teevee, they'd say it was self-defense.

In some ways I hope that 2017 brings one investigation after another about her actions b/c that might prevent her from doing too much damage.

I've become very cynical and kind of given up... I mean about politics. It is just too corrupt. I cannot engage.

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Don't believe everything you think.

"It is easier to do the deed FIRST and apologize later, than asking permission."

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

MsGrin's picture

He had a tutor is the only other thing I remember.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member