Open Thread 10-04-15

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10 Million at Risk of Hunger Due to Climate Change and El Niño, Oxfam Warns

At least ten million of the poorest people face food insecurity in 2015 and 2016 due to extreme weather conditions and the onset of El Niño, Oxfam has reported.

In Oxfam’s new report called Entering Uncharted Waters, erratic weather patterns were noted including high temperatures and droughts, disrupting farming seasons around the world.

Countries are already facing a “major emergency,” said Oxfam, including Ethiopia where 4.5 million people are in need of food assistance due to a drought this year.

US Tax Dollars and Ukraine’s Finance Minister

By Robert Parry

The U.S. government is missing – or withholding – audit documents about the finances and possible accounting irregularities at a $150 million U.S.-taxpayer-financed investment fund when it was run by Ukraine’s Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko, who has become the face of “reform” for the U.S.-backed regime in Kiev and who now oversees billions of dollars in Western financial aid.

Before taking Ukrainian citizenship and becoming Finance Minister in December 2014, Jaresko was a former U.S. diplomat who served as chief executive officer of the Western NIS Enterprise Fund (WNISEF), which was created by Congress in the 1990s with $150 million and placed under the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to help jumpstart an investment economy in Ukraine.

After Jaresko’s appointment as Finance Minister — and her resignation from WNISEF — I reviewed WNISEF’s available public records and detected a pattern of insider dealings and enrichment benefiting Jaresko and various colleagues. That prompted me in February to file a Freedom of Information Act request for USAID’s audits of the investment fund.

How to Spy the 9/11 Lie

A recent book written by three veteran CIA officers describes how deception can be identified by simple observational techniques. In Spy the Lie: Former CIA Officers Teach You How to Detect Deception, authors Philip Houston, Michael Floyd, and Susan Carnicero outline a number of verbal and visual behavioral clues that are demonstrated by people who lie in response to questioning. These proven techniques for recognizing deception can be easily applied to see that U.S. leaders have lied repeatedly about the attacks of 9/11.

The authors make clear that there are two important guidelines to employ when analyzing these verbal and visual clues. First, timing is important. Due to the fact that people think ten times faster than they speak, the behaviors are more important when the first one occurs within five seconds of the question. Secondly, when the behavioral clues occur in groups of two or more, called clusters, they are more indicative of deception on the part of the person being questioned. The more clues exhibited, the more clear the deception becomes.

Let’s take a look at some examples.

In a December 15, 2001 press conference, President George W. Bush was asked an unexpected question about 9/11. In a remarkably delayed response, Bush exhibited both a verbal clue for deception, the failure to answer, and a visual clue called an anchor-point movement. The latter is when the anxiety raised by the question causes the person questioned to shift his body to relieve physical instability. As Bush replied, he shook his head, moved his hands, and seemed to be shuffling his feet uncomfortably.

Amid the Crowing of the GOP and Clinton, Sanders Is on the Rise

How easy it is to mock the Republican candidates. They’re the gang in the clown car climbing all over each other to offer a reactionary message of disarray that has all but destroyed the chances of the Bush family dynasty continuing. But isn’t that a grand achievement for the democratic process?

Why continue a political legacy that has failed in so many dramatic ways to serve the needs of the American public, instead giving us irrational but high-tech wars dealing death from the skies, heartless banking deregulation boosting the fortunes of the rich at the expense of the vast majority, and a vast state apparatus of surveillance enforced by the imprisonment of any whistleblowers who dare reveal its existence?

Good riddance to bad rubbish, except that the alternatives of Trump, Fiorina or Carson only make Jeb Bush look stunningly reasonable in comparison. The other problem is that Hillary Clinton, the leading Democratic candidate, is not fundamentally different from the scion of the Bush dynasty. She is instead a perfect stand-in for Jeb Bush if, as appears likely, the Republican Party should reject him for the sin, as with House Speaker John Boehner, of appearing too moderate. For Democrats, appearing moderate is quite easy, as Clinton proved as a senator and secretary of state: Just carry water for the military-industrial complex and Wall Street while pretending to be concerned about the ordinary folks who suffer from those costly policies.

Warmer Winters Slow the Growth of Forest Giants

LONDON—Spring is arriving ever earlier as greenhouse gas levels rise and global temperatures warm, and the northern hemisphere growing season is now two weeks longer  than it was in 1900.

But, paradoxically, new research shows that forest giants that once responded to the early spring are beginning to slow down—because they miss the chill.

Yongshuo Fu, an Earth system scientist at Peking University, Beijing, and colleagues report in Nature journal that they have measured a slowdown in the response of oaks and other forest citizens to the change in temperatures and carbon dioxide levels.

Where these species, on average, unfolded their first leaves four days earlier, with every 1?C rise in temperature, they now do so only 2.3 days earlier for every additional 1?C.

Energy Democracy: Building a Solar Dream in a Tar Sands Nightmare

In a community of five hundred people in northern Alberta, a 20.8 kW solar installation has been set up to power the First Nation's health centre, and put additional energy back in to the grid. The Indigenous community of the Lubicon Cree used to be self-sufficient and was able to live off the land. Now the community deals with contaminated water, polluted air and a compromised landscape. In 2011, the community dealt with one of the largest oil spills in Alberta's history.

After dealing with three decades of intensive oil, gas, logging, fracking and tar sands exploitation in our homeland, my community of Little Buffalo has chosen to forge a new future and become powered by the sun. First Nation communities have been on the front lines of resource extraction for far too long, and we have paid dearly for the price of humanity's addiction to oil, but we have hope that we will find a way out of the crisis we are currently facing in Alberta and around the world.

Refusing to be victims in this game of fossil fuel roulette, communities like Little Buffalo are leading the way towards energy independence – making The Leap towards a new future that some of our leading thinkers say everyone else must follow.

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gotta' go help my son to move to a new place, should be back around noon central. I hope to see you then.

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Know the Facts About Capital Punishment

Capital punishment does not work. There is a wealth of mounting evidence that proves this fact.

The death penalty, both in the U.S. and around the world, is discriminatory and is used disproportionately against the poor, minorities and members of racial, ethnic and religious communities. Since humans are fallible, the risk of executing the innocent can never be eliminated.

Death Sentences and Executions 2014



My mother used to always say you are judged by the company you keep.

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China again carried out more executions than the rest of the world put together. Amnesty International believes thousands are executed and sentenced to death there every year, but with numbers kept a state secret the true figure is impossible to determine.

The other countries making up the world’s top five executioners in 2014 were Iran (289 officially announced and at least 454 more that were not acknowledged by the authorities), Saudi Arabia (at least 90), Iraq (at least 61) and the USA (35).

In China authorities made use of the death penalty as a punitive tool in the “Strike Hard” campaign against unrest in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. Authorities executed at least 21 people during the year related to separate attacks, while three people were condemned to death in a mass sentencing rally conducted in a stadium in front of thousands of spectators.

In Nigeria, 659 death sentences were recorded in 2014, a jump of more than 500 compared with the 2013 figure of 141. Military courts handed down mass death sentences against some 70 soldiers during the year in separate trials. They were convicted of mutiny in the context of the armed conflict with Boko Haram.

In Egypt, courts handed down at least 509 death sentences during 2014, 400 more than recorded during the previous year. This included mass death sentences against 37 people in April and 183 people in June following unfair mass trials.

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in silence this morning and have nothing to add or say.
Don't drown in whatever is bothering you, water, lies, poverty and other miseries.
It's Sunday. We are supposed to have hope. So, let's see if we can make it to Monday.

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Another day, more rain. It looks like we're socked in again with it. Unknw

I might have something of substance to add later. Til then, I am enjoying listening to Steve Earle. Good

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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Some Sunday rain.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

Cold and rainy is right... If we're lucky, we might reach 60 in SE MI. My husband is socked in up north. He was supposed to have a week of sunny and 70. Instead he's been stuck in cold and rainy with huge winds blowing in off the lake. He needs to shutter up the doorwalls so he can leave, but he has to wait for the winds to die down so he and boards don't sail away. He said we have easy 10 foot waves crashing on the beach. Some beaches are being washed out into the lake, and other beaches are growing as the lake brings in and piles up sand. No arguing with the lakes. They always win.

See life is moving along without missing a beat. Another school shooting, bombed Doctors without Borders, and war mongering/tax-cutting candidates everywhere.

Bernie is no socialist. Bernie and Ike are two peas in a pod. Great turnout in Boston. Hope the folks stuck outside had better weather than we're having.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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in western NC. I thought it had rained a lot here since it has been steady since one week ago Thursday night. Then I saw where a place near Charleston SC recorded over 24 inches of rain. The entire state of SC has been getting pounded by torrential rainfalls and flooding, including Columbia which is in the center of the state.

I have seen several interviews with Hedges, whom I admire, in which he dismisses Bernie as a feasible alternative. He has not said who he will support but I am guessing it will be the Green Party which has supported in the past. In a way, his critique of Bernie is the same as Al's. I have been very clear that I am supporting Bernie in the primaries, but if Hillary or Biden gets the nomination, then I will go Green. If Bernie gets the nomination, I am going to stick with him unless something happens that I simply cannot support.

The Boston turnout was incredible, 26K inside and somewhere between 4-6K outside in overflow. Bernie's momentum is simply amazing.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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In Kabul, the Afghan Ministry of Defence said Taliban fighters had attacked the hospital and were using the building "as a human shield". But the medical aid group denied this.

"The gates of the hospital compound were closed all night so no one that is not staff, a patient or a caretaker was inside the hospital when the bombing happened," Medecins Sans Frontieres said in a statement on Sunday. "In any case, bombing a fully functioning hospital can never be justified."

Witnesses said patients were burned alive in the crowded hospital after the air strike. Among the dead were three children being treated.

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bombing a hospital is a war crime. The President, Sec. of Defense and any other high ranking US officials involved need to be charged and prosecuted for war crimes.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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Regional powers have quietly, but effectively, channelled funds, weapons and other support to rebel groups making the biggest inroads against the forces from Damascus. In doing so, they are investing heavily in a conflict which they see as part of a wider regional struggle for influence with bitter rival Iran.

In a week when Russia made dozens of bombing raids, those countries have made it clear that they remain at least as committed to removing Assad as Moscow is to preserving him.

“There is no future for Assad in Syria,” Saudi foreign minister Adel Al-Jubeir warned, a few hours before the first Russian bombing sorties began. If that was not blunt enough, he spelled out that if the president did not step down as part of a political transition, his country would embrace a military option, “which also would end with the removal of Bashar al-Assad from power”. With at least 39 civilians reported dead in the first bombing raids, the prospect of an escalation between backers of Assad and his opponents is likely to spell more misery for ordinary Syrians.

“The Russian intervention is a massive setback for those states backing the opposition, particularly within the region – Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – and is likely to elicit a strong response in terms of a counter-escalation,” said Julien Barnes-Dacey, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

If you want to see how this plays out, look no further than the Second Congo War.
No one will win this war. Not the Gulf States. Not Russia, and certainly not the Syrians.

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May the malign energies the Saudi clan puts out into the universe traverse the great karmic circle and be answered by waves of righteous energies visiting justice upon their sorry asses.

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It's more complicated than this, but it's a good graphic to start from.

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To thine own self be true.

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to call this kind of 'gesture' in art school. All it needs is a few drips or splashes and it's set to go.

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(or Médecins Sans Frontières') hospital. Glenn Greenwald on Intercept says this strike comes just days after the US condemned Russia for the collateral damage from their bombing in Syria. This was not collateral damage, this was not a mistake. MSF emailed their coordinates last week to the US military, it was clearly marked. The use of helicopters and low flying planes means the pilots saw their targets. There were no Taliban firing from inside the hospital. So far 19 deaths including 3 children. While most occupants were able to get shelter in the 2 bunkers under the hospital, 6 patients burned to death in their beds. The UN is saying this is possibly a war crime. The MSF is saying it is a war crime.

Last week before all this, I got one of the MSF mailings which includes a world map, with the heading: "The World is our Emergency Room."
This organization spends very little on administration, I checked out their rating before giving small donations.

Most headlines in the US media including the NYTimes, omitted the US as in "US Airstrike on hospital" and they emphasize the Taliban presence near the hospital. Witnesses say there were no Taliban fighters in the hospital.
Afghan hospital bombing: MSF labels US airstrike a war crime as it withdraws staff

The Afghan people are the real losers here, they no longer have the only hospital for miles while civilians are presenting with gun shot wounds from the fighting in Kunduz.

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and it's been escalating since they unleashed the mad dogs of war after 9/11. I know the bloody East vs. West history reaches back to the Great Game and beyond but since they declared the war on terra and repealed all the rules of law, international and domestic their insane, viscous, vision of world domination 'want to rule the world' has bloomed like a dark scary flower . Out in the open with no pretense of being anything other then what it is. Godwin was a stupid git as when you have a cabal of psychos running the world who operate by killing, torturing, invading and destroying anyone that supposedly threatens their NWO it as clear as bell that these are the same asshole 'superior' killers hell bent on destruction and death, humans had to deal with during the Third Reich and the axis of Evil fascists. Are we all not Good Germans because we allow these assholes power and say it's the best choice because money or adhere to the fantasy that this is a democracy and we have to have a majority of our insane population to see the light or use the rigged crooked system to get these fuckers out of power and gone?

Different players with the same psychotic agenda and insane depraved disregard for human life and well being. This time around nation states are meaningless, it's just naked never satiable greed and world domination for the worst elements that the human psyche posses? Strange to live though and I cannot for the life of me figure out why ordinary people globally do not raise up and stop this shit. Are we looking at a global nightmare, ecological, humanitarian, and societal and yet people seem to accept this as an inevitable reality. They are unraveling centuries of human progress from Hammurabi's Code to the Magna Carta and any progress we humans have made since these declarations of human and civil rights.

I can hardly read the news these days. It's like a loop that does not stop and makes no sense at all other then cementing and expanding the cult of death that Cheney and Co. apparently made the way we roll. Fear, violence and greed are now the way forward as the world is a dangerous place and we need to kill and eat the dogs who are not US. I cannot find the words to express my anger, distress and sadness when I look and read what my country and the other global, pig fucking, oligarchical collectivists are being allowed to do to both our planet and the people who live here.

My rant, one that really doesn't help or add clarity or a way to resolve this madness but clearly we need to stop accepting this as any kind of reality humans should accept. To think that this violence our country unleashes on other people does not effect the killing in our own country by the pigs or the muckers with g8uns is just another form of the blindness that prevails in our society.

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because I once got so tired on the gos with the constant "good German" references, that I got drowned.

The question would be if Americans today feel as scared under their "corporate evil fascists" as may be many Germans did under Hitler's tyanny. If that would be the case, then I would dare to say that you are as "Good Americans" as we were "Good Germans". But frankly I don't see that kind of oppression in the US today that is comparable to what evolved during the Third Reich. So, for me, there are no "Good Americans" as a snark expression in my vocabulary.

it's just naked never satiable greed and world domination for the worst elements that the human psyche posses? Strange to live though and I cannot for the life of me figure out why ordinary people globally do not raise up and stop this shit. Are we looking at a global nightmare, ecological, humanitarian, and societal and yet people seem to accept this as an inevitable reality.

... because they rather survive than getting killed and as long as the global nightmare doesn't knock at their doors and threatens their livelihood immediately, they go along with it as much as we do. Vent our frustrations on the intertubes just is a preemptive move to get rid of our inner guilt. Doesn't work very well, but that's how we cope with it, I think.

Chris Hedges wrote a piece today: Local Resistance Can Overthrow Our Political Masters and I think he made some suggestions how to become a real good American (as in no snark):

All resistance will be local. We will have to dismantle the corporate state, piece by piece, from the ground up. No leader or politician is going to do it for us. Every community that bans fracking, every university and institution that embraces the boycott, divest and sanctions (BDS) movement, every individual who becomes vegan to thwart the animal agriculture industry’s devastation of the planet and holocaust of animals, every effort to build self-sustaining food supplies, every protest to halt the use of lethal force by police against our citizens, especially poor people of color, every act of civil disobedience against corporate power and imperialism will slowly transform our society.

Those who rebel, once they rise up, will build alliances with other rebels. This will give birth to a new political expression, one that will be fiercely anti-capitalist and will seek to sustain rather than destroy life. Rebellion will come from the bottom. I do not know if we can succeed. The forces arrayed against us are monstrous and terrifying. The corporate state has no qualms about employing savage and violent repression, wholesale surveillance, the criminalizing of dissent, and its propaganda machine to demonize us all. But I know this: We are the only hope. We are the people we have been waiting for. And if we do not act to save ourselves, the climate crisis and the corporate state that caused it will continue to ravage the ecosystem and human societies until catastrophic collapse occurs.

It's worth reading the whole article and read what Jill Stein describes as well.

Don't despair, Shaharazade, we are humans and our capacity to act heroically is limited by our desire to live and survive. I think one has to fight against ones inner feeling of guilt about that.

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I was ranting at my husband tonight and asked him why do people put up with this wholesale slaughtering of other humans for no reason that threatens their lives. He said what you did they do not want to die. I did not mean to disparage the German people individually or now. I used them as an example of humans who turn their backs on humanities progress and go along with whatever madness the seemingly inevitable,invisible powers that be decide is the 'way forward'. People throughout history fall in line for the most appalling regimes or world views. Inhumanity knows no boarders, no nation states, it flourishes wherever humans allow it to. Sure I don't want to die.

I don't want me or my family to be killed tortured or bombed and enslaved. I have a honest lefty, life long friend who told me she was not willing to go to any more demonstrations, protests or marches because she didn't want herself or her children to be killed, incarcerated or violently abused. She is afraid. We can't lay low. If we do we may avoid physical confrontation with the pigs, but in the end they will inflict more horrendous damage to humankind and the planet then if left unchallenged. Why are Americans so afraid to call this what it is. Including Bernie.

My livelihood is already threatened, in fact is gone daddy gone as are millions of peoples. Sure I can scrape by selling my hard won home and move on but why should I have to? Where will I go. Growth for who and what? Yeah right. What a sick concept. Survival of the most viscous is all I see in this miserable excuse for an economy. I have always been as a friend once described me, materially impaired, but man o man this is so called economy nothing anyone should fight to keep in place. Same with the world as we find it where humans are literally killed, tortured or forced to flee from the powers that control our world for greed and domination.

I did not mean to disparage the German people of these times. I mean if you look at history of global fascism that arose prior to WW2 it has less to do with nationality and more to do with global politics that preaches the survival of the most viscous power grabbing humans who are able to instill fear to the point where we all become enablers of the psycho killers with power. I do take heart in ordinary people who throughout history have risen up and said enough.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always." Mahatma Gandhi

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I felt offended by some "Nazi stuff". I just referenced the old stuff, because after reading a lot of comment threads on the gos for years, I got a bit tired of that snark about the good german thingy, which people sometimes post a bit too easily.

I admit I am scared. Easily. And I have seen others scared.

People throughout history fall in line for the most appalling regimes or world views.

Yes, I have seen that up close. I have watched people of power, who can be dangerous in harming those who are dependent on them, while at the same time licking the boots of their superiors.(Africa) Do you blame all former East Germans for falling in line with the most appalling communist regime under Honecker?

I just read and watched a video of our current President Gauck, who described the events in Rostock Germany (not Leipzig), when people finally and very hesitatingly assembled in churches and overcame their fears and "stood up". Watch this video from the Deutsche Welle about how the "standing up" took place in Germany in 1989. I think it may give you an idea how deeply convinced East Germans were "that they couldn't do anything" and then miraculously one day discovered that may be they could. The content of this video reminds me of similar comments about the civil rights movement and that MLK's greatest achievement was to help the black population to overcome their fears and unite in a movement. The video is in this link.
Dreams of New Beginning

I do take heart in ordinary people who throughout history have risen up and said enough.

Of course, they are brave. And some risk their lives and do that knowingly. But I do take as much heart in ordinary people, who could barely survive, in great poverty and great dependency under dictatorial regimes, and just tried to survive and felt they couldn't rise up and survive at the same time. I know that if they see a chance to rise up or evade the dependency without dying, they will rise up or leave their slave-like dependencies behind. I can't get over myself to somehow accuse those people of not being courageous enough to rise up, because as long as I don't live under their conditions, to do so would be quite hypocritical. Unless I am not in their shoes, there is no way to expect something from them what I myself can't prove to engage in, if I lived in their conditions.

I am all for speaking up, go to demonstration etc. I posted Hedges article. I am much in agreement what he writes and thinks needs to be done on the local level. But anyone has to decide for himself how much one is willing to risk. It's good to be an activist who speaks up, it's less useful to be a dead activist. It's great to unite in a movement and as a group to lose fear and stand up en masse. To overcome fear is the real goal you need to achieve in a movement.

I have been on a couple of demonstrations and their preparations. It was interesting to see how well the organizers advise the demonstrators, to evaluate how much any single person should risk. Not everyone can afford to be arrested. People make very conscious decisions about how much to speak up, how much of civil disobedience they will engage in. That just shows you that most of the demonstrators have still the freedom to make those choices.

If there were to be a real fascist police state here in the US and if the population would have ever experienced war in their neighborhoods with bombs falling from the sky, I doubt that people, who want to speak up would have still those choices.

Oh, now that became a serious comment. And I came back here just because I had spent some time listening to music and found such good stuff, that I wanted to post some songs. Heh. Another time.

Have a good night.

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I appreciate your response. I guess it's hard to wrap my head around the dictatorial regime that the US has become. It is the universal striving for equality, justice and democracy not the tribalism, nationalism and violence be it economic or killing of people for no good reason I cannot grasp. I do disagree however about the choices we have here in the Homeland.

'That just shows you that most of the demonstrators have still the freedom to make those choices.' No not really, sure you can make those choices but why should you have to endure the wrath of the psychos that own the place. Great, we won't necessarily kill you if you dissent but we will do you harm. These are basic human rights were speaking of there is no reason to live in this kind of fear unless your living in a fascist state where there is zero tolerance for dissent or even being able to speak out against this madness without suffering the consequences economic or physical that the state imposes on a citizen. Why in the hell should anyone have to face the consequences of speaking up it's a basic human right.

Oh I know I'm a dreamer but I'm not a hypocrite. Still I wonder why bombs that are not falling from the sky should make our choices? Perhaps the fact that we do not yet have bombs falling out of the sky on us should not be a reason to not consent to this madness. As history has shown us over and over fear of bombs from the sky does nothing to stop them from falling if the powers that be decide they are necessary.

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I read your response and can't find anything with which I disagree. I guess I didn't think clearly enough or expressed what I thought not good enough. May be I just wanted to say that it's humane to be scared and avoid taking risks that harm you personally too much. Survival instincts are pretty strong and often stronger than the guilt you feel (even if not admitting it) when you don't ACT (I am not about talking) according what your conscience tells you would be the right thing to do. It's just something I can't overlook.

Why in the hell should anyone have to face the consequences of speaking up it's a basic human right.

Right. Speaking up should not have any consequences, but it's acting up that might be needed and there it becomes a problem between taking serious risks or not.

Thanks for trying to make me think clearer. I am not the smartest bulb out there, I know. Take care and always speak up. I am with you on that one.

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