Hillary's lead is now razor-thin

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:52am

It appears that there some small amount of price to pay for ignoring/disregarding security procedures.

Clinton had been criticized for mishandling classified information and for her administration's reckless treatment of sensitive information. While about eight in 10 of all voters agree that Clinton's use of an email server was "inappropriate," this number also includes nearly seven in 10 of her own supporters.

So what sort of political price is that?

The outlier is the reuters poll. Every other post-FBI report poll shows this as too close to call.

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 10:59am

Hillary is against TPP. Trust her

No really

Amid boos from the sidelines, allies of Hillary Clinton and President Obama on Saturday beat back an effort by the Bernie Sanders campaign to have the Democratic Party officially oppose a congressional vote on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

Submitted by Hillbilly Dem on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:17am

Hillary..."I oppose TPP in its current form." *

* Translation: A comma here, a comma there and I could go back to calling it The Gold Standard.

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Submitted by WoodsDweller on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:26am

It's current form

doesn't do enough for her donors. They want MOAR.

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Submitted by nosleep4u on Wed, 07/13/2016 - 11:21am

One human trafficking

exception wasn't enough.

Submitted by Bisbonian on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:05am

wafer thin.

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Submitted by Azazello on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:14am

Meet-Up in Tucson ...

Strategy session at Nimbus Brewery Friday night at 7.

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Submitted by Bisbonian on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:43pm

What time?

I will be driving home from PHX that evening, could work out perfectly.

EDIT: oops, I see you already said 7 PM. I'll be there.

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Submitted by BoberFett on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 1:55pm

Barf

I'd post the Mr. Creosote clip from Meaning of Life, but those with weaker stomachs wouldn't appreciate it...

Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 5:22pm

I need a bucket.

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Submitted by Crimson Buddha on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:13am

It should be close.

Clearly The Powers That Be are trolling us by presenting us with a "choice" between these two clowns.

BTW, I've renamed the major parties in the good ol' US of A. We now have the Sucktastic Party and the Evil of Banality Party (an intentional play on the phrase "banality of evil"). I leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine which is which.

Submitted by JuliaW on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 3:18pm

I call them both the Vichy Party(ies) n/t

Submitted by Cassiodorus on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:20am

I'm sure the electoral breakdown still favors Clinton.

And don't forget the election fraud "vote."

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Submitted by WoodsDweller on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:28am

Exactly

the national polls are useless when they're this close (a 10 point spread tells us something). We really need state level polling in battleground states to know what the EC looks like.

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Submitted by cloudy_skies on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:32am

There have been a lot of polls in battleground states.

They practically mirror these results: nearly all of them are in the margin of error.

Submitted by Leu2500 on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:34am

Kasich

Is planning to campaign hard for down ballot Rs in Ohio. Put that one in the leans away from Hillary column.

Submitted by Cassiodorus on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:07pm

I wouldn't be surprised --

to see Kasich out there campaigning for Goldwater Girl. They have the same ideology.

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“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon

Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 7:39pm

Gonna be a tough sell.

Goopers voting for Hillary?

End of Days is surely near.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by dkmich on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:42am

More numbers...

Party foul: Voters defecting from their traditional sides

With less than a week until the Republican National Convention, election watchers see an unexpected trend, with voters threatening to jump party lines. The Republican Party is even underfunding its grassroots efforts for the 2016 White House race.
In Aurora, Colorado, a diehard Democrat in his 70s is planning to cast his first-ever ballot for a Republican candidate, and a lifelong Republican in her 50s is planning to vote for Hillary Clinton “because she can’t bring herself to support Donald Trump,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

One thing about the right, they are only slightly more motivated and less whiney than the left. I would think both sides would be fleeing into the arms of a third party screaming.

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Submitted by tocino8 on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:19pm

Third party

I expect Gary Johnson/Bill Weld to do quite well this time around. I expect the same for Jill Stein. The two party duopoly is imploding like crazy, and none too soon, but it's gonna be ugly. Let's hope the demise is quick and totalanyway, and that there are good structures in place to take us forward.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Wed, 07/13/2016 - 12:21pm

Swing states

Trump leads Clinton 42% to 39% in Fla. in straight head-to-head matchup; comparable survey released June 21 showed her with 8-ppt. lead, 47% to 39%
With minor-party candidates factored in, Trump leads Clinton 41%-36%; Libertarian Gary Johnson garners 7%, Green Party’s Jill Stein 4%

Trump leads Clinton 43% to 41% in Pa.; June 21 survey had Clinton with slight edge, 42% to 41%
As in Fla., Trump’s lead expands when minor-party candidates added to mix; results are Trump 40%, Clinton 34%, Johnson 9%, Stein 3%

Trump/Clinton tied in Ohio with 41% each; June 21 survey showed them tied at 40% support
In matchup including minor-party candidates, Trump has 37%, Clinton 36%, Johnson 7%, Stein 6%

Submitted by cloudy_skies on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:24am

And that's against a dumpster fire like Trump.

Unbelievable.

Submitted by Hillbilly Dem on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:33am

You said it.

Even a schlub like Romney or a doddering old fart like McCain would absolutely destroy her at the ballot box. She gets to run against the only person that she can (maybe) beat, Donald Trump.

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Submitted by RichM on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 2:25pm

See sig... n/t

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Submitted by JuliaW on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 3:23pm

Starting to give more credence to this theory

What if Trump’s goal is really a Clinton victory?:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/opinion/article88823407.html

Submitted by wilderness voice on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 6:27pm

Likewise

Thanks for that link. It really says something when traditional media is making that suggestion and pointing out the evidence.

Submitted by featheredsprite on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 11:47am

May I suggest a money bomb to the Green Party?

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/donate
Even a very small donation would make a statement.

I read somewhere that the Greens are being inundated with new volunteers today. I don't think I'm able to volunteer but I did make a donation.

I would love Jill to be able to say that a gajillion people donated to the Greens today.

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Submitted by DesertRose on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:01pm

I ventured over to TOP w/o logging in.

It's a kumbaya moment.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:17pm

It's always a kumbaya moment on TOP

Submitted by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 3:30pm

Holding hands around the Democratic campfire

Singing the old Girl Scout song "Make new friends but keep the old. Some are silver and the other gold." My eyes are moist.

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Submitted by The Wizard on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:05pm

President Trump, brought to you by Bill and Hillary

The final last fuck-you power play from the Clinton Crime Family. It would certainly be appropriate to end their rocky, corrupt, lying, thieving political careers by leaving us with a President Trump.There is so much pent up anger against the Democratic Party, Clinton, Obama and Hillary, that America would rather have a Carnival Barker for President, who can channel that anger.

Are Democrats really that stupid? --- Yes
Are Democrats so power hungry that they would let a political grifter be the standard bearer? --- Yes
Are Democrats without any principles that they would buy Neoliberal economics? --- Yes
Are Democrats so indifferent to the effects of war that they would buy Neocon warmongering? -- Yes
Are Democrats so callous about well paying jobs in the US that they would seek bad trade agreements? -- Yes

So why do we give a fuck about the Democratic Party? We have to do our own thing. The lesson that I took
away from Bernie's run is that young Americans are hungry for change, and that's change to the Left. That huge
sucking sound is Bernie leaving the building, with a giant political vacuum behind.

The conclusion that we are about to realize in the C99 community is that to continue the revolution we have to
dump Bernie.

And America will finish the job on Hillary.

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Submitted by rmwarnick on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:06pm

Clinton's Lead Over Trump Shrinks Again In Weekly Tracking Poll

Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump decreased in the NBC News/Survey Monkey weekly tracking poll for the second week in a row, according to the poll released Tuesday morning.

Clinton now leads Trump by three points, 47-44, down from a five point lead over Trump in last week's tracking poll.

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Submitted by orestes on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:16pm

It's the Hillary Principle

The more the American people see her, or of her the less they like her.

An I think we have to be mindful of a reverse Bradley effect- in which people will be too ashamed to tell pollsters they will vote for Trump, but will pull that lever when in the privacy of the voting booth.

Submitted by JuliaW on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 3:25pm

"Her numbers NEVER go up" n/t

Submitted by Vetinari on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:36pm

The poll choices are bit

The poll choices are bit limited Why include Morning Consult's June-30-July 5, but not other polls in the timeframe, as done here?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump...

Still shows Clinton with a smaller-than-comfortable lead, but gives a more complete view.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 12:59pm

Re:

The poll choices are bit limited Why include Morning Consult's June-30-July 5, but not other polls in the timeframe, as done here?

I picked the top five/most recent. That's all.

Submitted by River Rover on Tue, 07/12/2016 - 1:46pm

"I'm melting !"

"What a world ! - what a world !"

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 07/14/2016 - 11:35am

NYT Poll: Trump ties Hillary

More fallout

Hillary Clinton has emerged from the F.B.I. investigation into her email practices as secretary of state a wounded candidate with a large and growing majority of voters saying she cannot be trusted, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
As Mrs. Clinton prepares to accept the Democratic Party’s nomination at the convention in Philadelphia this month, she will confront an electorate in which 67 percent of voters say she is not honest and trustworthy. That number is up five percentage points from a CBS News poll conducted last month, before the F.B.I. released its findings.

Mrs. Clinton’s six-percentage-point lead over the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump, in a CBS News poll last month has evaporated. The two candidates are now tied in a general election matchup, the new poll indicates, with each receiving the support of 40 percent of voters.