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In Northeast Estonia, then a wilderness, but now heavily industrialised (and Russified).
Maetaguse means 'behind the mountain', where the "mountain" refers to the steep cliffs down to the Gulf of Finland just west of Narva.
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The basic field of the Maetaguse arms isn't or (yellow/gold); it's tenny (orange/brown). Tenny is a "complicated" tincture. In Anglo-Frankish-Teutonic heraldry, tenny is a deprecated tincture, a less-honorable version of or. But your mileage will vary widely. Dutch heraldry, for one example, does not deprecate tenny at all. (Probably owing to the fact of a "House of Orange" occupying the Dutch Throne as long as there's been one!) Likewise, it appears that Estonian heraldry does not deprecate tenny.
"Sang", the hybrid between gules (red) and purpure (purple), the tincture of spilled blood, is also usually deprecated -- and more reliably so than tenny is.
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Valla vapil olev karu on Alutaguse metsade valitseja, tugevuse ja sihikindluse sümbol. Seistes mäe taga viitab ta paiga nimele, kolme harjaga mägi aga kujutab valla kolme mõisa ja tähtsamat küla. Kuldne värv sümboliseerib küpseid viljapõlde, rikkust ja põlevkivi; roheline loodust, noorust ja lootust; must viljakat mulda, püsivust ja tugevust.
The bear on the arms of the "vald" [approx. parish] represents the ruler of the forests of Alutaguse, a symbol of strength and perseverance. Standing behind a hillhock is reminiscent of the name "Maetaga": behind the mountain [sic]. The three-peaked mountain is represents the three important manors and villages. The yellow [sic] symbolises mature wheatsheaves, wealth and oil-shale; the green, the environment, youth, and hope; and the black the rich loam, persistence and power.
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Lion/bear licking paw on a shamrock?
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Is it in Estonia?
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Someone associated with King Carl X Gustaf of Sweden?
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That's the Barenjager logo,
That's the Barenjager logo, right?
I'll try this
The coat of arms of Maetaguse, home of the Wrangel family and the von Rosens.
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Right again.
I may have to disqualify you from commenting
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Or Alutaguse (Allentag), where my mom was born.
In Northeast Estonia, then a wilderness, but now heavily industrialised (and Russified).
Maetaguse means 'behind the mountain', where the "mountain" refers to the steep cliffs down to the Gulf of Finland just west of Narva.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I didn't do anything.
The image information in your coat of arms was in Estonian.
You might want to alter that for next time. Rename the image before you post it.
Gëzuar!!
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Maybe?
A variant of the coat of arms of Sir William Marshall, knight of the Middle Ages.
Nope, not even close
Marshal is per pale Or and Vert a lion rampant gules: http://www.symbols.com/symbol/2114
This is pretty close but I don't know if it's exact: Or, a brown bear statant erect proper atop a trimount vert, von Bernfels (197). Source: An Ordinary of Siebmacher's Wappenbuch, "Base, vert". http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/base-vert.html
Image here: http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/197-vonbernfels.jpg
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The monkeywrench, as usual, is the tincture "tenny".
The basic field of the Maetaguse arms isn't or (yellow/gold); it's tenny (orange/brown). Tenny is a "complicated" tincture. In Anglo-Frankish-Teutonic heraldry, tenny is a deprecated tincture, a less-honorable version of or. But your mileage will vary widely. Dutch heraldry, for one example, does not deprecate tenny at all. (Probably owing to the fact of a "House of Orange" occupying the Dutch Throne as long as there's been one!) Likewise, it appears that Estonian heraldry does not deprecate tenny.
"Sang", the hybrid between gules (red) and purpure (purple), the tincture of spilled blood, is also usually deprecated -- and more reliably so than tenny is.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
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Thanks "DeadHead", very interesting.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.