More Clinton emails released, including some she deleted
WASHINGTON (AP) — An additional 165 pages of emails from Hillary Clinton's time at the State Department surfaced Monday, including nearly three dozen that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee failed to hand over last year that were sent through her private server.
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The emails were not among the 55,000 pages of work-related messages that Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence. They include a March 2009 message where the then-secretary of state discusses how her official records would be kept.
"I have just realized I have no idea how my papers are treated at State," Clinton wrote to Abedin and a second aide. "Who manages both my personal and official files? ... I think we need to get on this asap to be sure we know and design the system we want."
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Asked repeatedly who serviced Clinton's private server in the basement of her New York home, Abedin identified Justin Cooper, a technology staffer at that time for former President Bill Clinton, and Bryan Pagliano, a State Department technology official who is cooperating with an FBI investigation of Clinton's private server under an immunity deal with prosecutors. Abedin was hazy about Pagliano's role at the agency and his private work overseeing Clinton's server in New York.
Pagliano, who previously worked for Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign, invoked his constitutional right against self-incrimination and declined to answer the committee's questions. In a sworn deposition last week, Pagliano also refused to answer questions posed by lawyers from Judicial Watch, including who paid for the system and who else at the State Department used email accounts on it. Pagliano also would not answer whether he discussed setting up a home server with Clinton prior to her tenure as secretary of state, according to a transcript.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/775550d62ef8487a975a2a1c1c8b1100/more-cli...
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That email about 'designing the kind of system' she wanted clears up the question of 'did she intend to defy Obama's email directive, and even more serious - all the provisions of the FOIA? Well of course she did.
This bit where she erased her hard drive and then kept claiming she kept no copies of her emails sounds almost like her crap over the Rose Law Firm billing records. I'm not talking about what was IN the records, I'm talking about the two years the Clinton's denied they had them (until they miraculously turned up in their private quarters, praise the Lord!!)
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GOVERNMENT RECORDS
lets start calling them THAT instead of "emails" . . . also the bullpuckey about "she didn't know how to do emails" . . . yet uses multiple devices is obscene.
Call them GOVERNMENT RECORDS please and stop fueling her minions narrative.
This is so true.
'emails' are actually 'government records'
If Bernie said "No one gives a damn about her mishandling of government records", he would have been laughed out of the debate. She mishandled government records and in some cases classified material. She destroyed records that are stated by law must remain in the public domain and accessible via FOI requests.
heh...crooked Hillary.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Government Records
Excellent
Excellent
Excellent
Didn't see it until you wrote it, and now it's SO damn obvious!!!
THANK YOU!
I'm a luddite, how do we make this go viral?
I know this is from a conservative source, but...
it is nce to know that someone else is pissed. Bernie or bust has a plan to win or get even that I'd happily donate to. I encourage you to read the entire piece.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
That is an excellent suggestions. And I've never understood
the part about her not being able to send emails. If that were the truth we wouldn't be seeing an FBI investigation today. The media talks down to us like we're all ignorant. They make it so obvious that they just assume we are.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
A novice.
For someone that doesn't know how to use email, she sure was prolific. Sent and received 100,000+ emails in 4 years!!
For someone who used AT&T email
for government business during her term in the Senate, it must be a case of intermittent amnesia.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Just call her 'Old Happy Fingers'. And some of those things that
she didn't know how to send sound like they have some really juicy info in them that the White House won't let us see until after the election. That strikes me as being so very, very wrong. And 'unethical'.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Clarification
$hrillary said she only knew how to send emails on BLACKBERRY - her excuse to keep using it. Said she "didn't know how" to send emails on a computer...
Is this idiot really dumb enough to think anyone but one of her sycphants ( we get a lot of money) believe her? really?
At the very least
it is theft of government property and that is more than enough to disqualify her as a presidential nominee. Shit. She stole the china and some furniture from the White House.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
WTF! She stole the WH china--She is STEALING this election
Hillary for Prison 2016--she can eat off the nice plastic trays with plastic eating utensils and styrofoam cups
And for reading
she can enjoy Martha Stewart's "Better Living in Prison: Tips for the newly incarcerated". It's a good thing.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Who's the crook now?
It just boggles my mind that her supporters don't have a problem with what she did not just with the emails and her private server, but her hand in destroying 4 countries.
They were upset when Bush and Cheney destroyed Iraq, but for some reason, both Obama and Hillary get a pass on Libya, Syria, Honduras and Ukraine.
And Hillary did such a splendid job during the Benghazi hearings, but no one had a problem with her running guns along with the CIA out of the embassy in Benghazi and gave them to the moderate Syrian Rebels (terrorists) which just happened to fall into the hands of ISIL and other terrorist groups.
I guess these types of things are only bad when republicans do it.
They were also upset when the banks got bailed out after crashing the global economy and when people were tortured, but it's okay that no one who crashed the global economy not only got a pass on being charged with any crimes but many of those people were appointed to Obama's administration.
And the people who 'tortured some folks' weren't prosecuted for doing it.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
(NOT trying to sandbag discussion) I wanted to agree that we mos
certainly were doing some more of our gun running in Libya. And it ended just like out other gun running attempts. Just look at this one:
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Amman, Jordan - Weapons shipped into Jordan by the Central Intelligence Agency and Saudi Arabia intended for Syrian rebels have been systematically stolen by Jordanian intelligence operatives and sold to arms merchants on the black market, according to American and Jordanian officials.
Some of the stolen weapons were used in a shooting in November that killed two Americans and three others at a police training facility in Amman, FBI officials believe after months of investigating the attack, according to people familiar with the investigation.
The existence of the weapons theft, which ended only months ago after complaints by the US and Saudi governments, is being reported for the first time following a joint investigation by Al Jazeera and The New York Times.
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The theft and resale of the arms - including Kalashnikov assault rifles, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades - have led to a flood of new weapons available on the black arms market.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/cia-weapons-syrian-rebels-jordan-b...
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What kind of clucks have we got running our secret gun running business? Wouldn't you think we could find some people smart enough to do the dirty work without either getting an Ambassador killed or getting ripped off of all the inventory?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Eyerolling good: Clucks!!!
Chuckleheads? This is what GS-whatever number get$ more do? Come up with lame-ass plans involving weapons deals? Can't we just revert to trade in expensive tulip bulbs? Send flowers, not weapons. Hell, send wheat seed or quinoa seed or potatoes!
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
This is not a place to sell your stuff
Like the image but the link to your site where you SELL this stuff is inappropriate
Who are you
and why do you get to decide what's appropriate here? I'm sorry, unless I've missed something, I think your statement is rather out of line and seems obviously placed to cause trouble.
I will not comment further on this--and neither should anyone else, lest the post be derailed--but the person you're talking to has had that link since the beginning. If you feel it inappropriate the thing to do is send a private email to the admins..
snoopydawg
has been on this site since the Dawn of Wo/Man. If the link had been inappropriate, JtC, he would surely have said so, and long before you arrived.
Snoopydawg is selling art.
This is not the Soviet Union, circa 1951. When people were permitted to place, grim-faced, but pictures of tractors, on their walls.
Let, as Mao said, a hundred flowers blossom. Let everyone here, sell in a link, art.
My apologies if I offended
I just assume that sites like this are not commercial in nature and constantly see on a variety of sites folks trying to sneak in their products.
If the moderator is good with it then I guess I can be ok as well.
there is a difference
between somebody selling snake oil, and somebody offering something created by their own hand.
I look forward to your own offered works. ; )
Thank you for gracious reply
capforfun
thank you.
so good to see how we can learn gracious kindness from each other.
It was good to read your reply.
thank you
I sell art too (stained glass)
Would it be ok with everyone if I post a link to my website? I definitely want permission before I put one up.
Any stained glass afficionados? Please check out my website: www.masterpieceglass.net
Nearly, You can put whatever you want in your sig line
I would think.
I like to see the artwork people do here - and if I'm ever in the market for anything, would love to support fellow c99-ers.
I have a strong interest in stained glass, and have been wanting to learn how to work with it for years. I'd love to see your stuff. Do you do custom work??
Agree
Maybe we could even have a "crafty" thread which was permanent?
Maybe artists could also agree to give a % of what they sell to fund Caucus99%?
Maybe?
I think that's a great idea
I have been wanting to make a Bernie silhouette in stained glass with the wild hair and glasses, and put it up for auction with a large portion of the proceeds being donated to this site.
Any stained glass afficionados? Please check out my website: www.masterpieceglass.net
Thank you Haiku,
Yes I do custom work, quite a bit actually. Residential entryways, windows, transoms, as well as custom hanging panels.
My site is masterpieceglass.net. I'll go ahead and add it into my sig.
Thank you.
Any stained glass afficionados? Please check out my website: www.masterpieceglass.net
Beautiful glass, NN
If I was much richer, I'd have you create me a giant custom stained glass portrait of all the Haiku - kitties.
We are adding a room on the house, SLOWLY, so even though I can't afford what I want, I'll still keep you mind for something smaller for in front of our bathroom window, if and when the work ever gets done.
Wonderful! Thanks for looking and keeping me in mind! N/T
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Said it before - anything not overwritten after deletion
Can be recovered.
Yay!
It wasn't just that she didn't overwrite her computer
But many of them were recovered from the people she had sent them to.
As many people here who have or do work with the government have said, there are very strict rules regarding how emails are to be protected.
And Hillary was given those rules when she was elected to congress and when she was appointed SOS.
I read this article earlier and the state department had some concerns about her emails possibly being hacked. So why did it take until the Benghazi hearings for people to know that she used a non government email server?
Again, I'm sure that people had to notice that the emails she sent didn't come from Hillary@.gov, but Hillary@clintonone.
And what the hell is taking wikileaks so long to release them? Or are they waiting until after the convention?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Now's the time we need this information. It will be to the
eternal shame of anyone and/or any government body if after this election we find out that some real ugly shite was withheld from us.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Afraid that Julian is Afraid
We may need to know, but he needs to live with all his parts in their natural position.
I am wondering about threats to his family
I believe he has a son.
The FBI won't have to work that hard!
I'm pretty sure that backup copy of her server they got from the mom & pop internet provider, Platte River in Colorado, probably had all the deleted emails in addition to the ones released. If not, they have the copy that Platte River's associates who do backup services for them uploaded to the cloud.
You really have to wonder what else is in those emails she deleted?
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
And that IS the answer.
It is not hard now to figure out what some of the "missing" emails were about. In fact, I wonder how much money the Clinton dynasty made at Chelsea's wedding. She did yoga? Gimme a break. She probably did not pass along cookie recipes like some of us do IRL.
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Yoga Poses
Obviously Comey is way overcomplicating this thing. All he has to do is have her demonstrate the yoga poses she perfected during her time as SOS. Start with the lotus -- it quiets the mind and helps with memory retrieval -- and go from there.
Change is the end result of all true learning. ~ Leo Buscaglia
Next Time, Hillary will be sure...
To have a self-detonating charge on the server hard drive which will prime itself whenever a monitor detects she's in the presence of an investigator.
At this point, I'm thinking that had Hillary one Iota of human thought or connection, she'd have had a "Porn Buddy" with regards to the server. (A friend you trust to immediately destroy your hard drive when you die or otherwise are rendered insensate. The person's sole job is to beat your family to your house in order to completely wipe all devices.)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Somewhere here I have a DVD/CD
that is military-grade overwriting for HDs. I recall a good wipe that way required 6X overwrite. I dumped an old HD that way. I swear it had no government secrets or communications other than tax returns, no porn, nothing of interest to anybody. I swear, really.
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