Sanders Won't Endorse HRC
It is only one source but it is USA Today So far I have not been able to find the video. [Edited to add: I just realized that this was taped for tonight's show.]
Bernie Sanders says he won't endorse Hillary Clinton
WASHINGTON — Sen. Bernie Sanders told talk show host Stephen Colbert on Thursday that he doesn’t plan to endorse Hillary Clinton in her general-election race against Donald Trump.
Sanders flatly said “no” when asked by Colbert whether he would endorse Clinton...
"All of you and everybody else who’s watching have got to be involved in the political process, have got to stand up and fight for the kind of America that we know that we can become and I’m never going to give up on that fight," Sanders said to applause while taping an interview for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Oh, please, don't let this be a hoax.
Edited to add: We could find out more from Sanders' speech tonight in NY (from the same article):
The Vermont senator, who remains a presidential candidate despite his second-place primary finish to Clinton, will deliver a speech at 7 p.m. Thursday at The Town Hall performance venue in New York City titled, “Where We Go From Here.”
Comments
It's not quite as final as
the blockquote in the essay sounds.
Also it looks like they edited
the article since publishing it.
Compare to original in essay.
Does that mean he'll endorse her at the eleventh hour?
Ted Kennedy never endorsed Carter,
so there is no telling what Sanders will do. Maybe if the Revolution is loud enough, the HRC camp will figure it is best to just not worry about the words as it means he will give a speech first. And that speech will be roasting her feet, legs, pantsuit, etc. = )
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
The original second paragraph:
Posted at 6:13 pm EDT
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
They even changed the title
from the one that I had copy and pasted into the essay. *sigh* I wonder if they have fixed the taped show also.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Halleluia
let it be so and can Bernie get a witness?!
"So it goes."
Kurt Vonnegut
I am so trusting that I took a screen shot of the
original article. = )
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Not tonight anyway,
but he's clearly endorsing the Democratic party and Clinton will be the head of the Democratic party.
I don't understand the angst surrounding
any Bernie "endorsement"?
So what, we're all sentient beings with free will. A hat tip to Bernie, and do what you have to do in the future.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I agree but for whatever reason
others find it upsetting. I plan to vote for whomever I wish to no matter what anyone else says or does.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
They are upset because...
a) She is the queen - all bow before her
b) How DARE he challenge the inevitable nominee
c) We need to sit down, shut up and vote for Her Highness
d) Because - TRUMP!
e) You are not a good "Democrat" unless you sit down, shut up, because TRUMP and she is our queen so don't you DARE challenge the inevitable nominee!!!!
f) All of the above
My vote is "f"
Those are the reasons for the HRC horde's
disgruntlement, but it is the Sanders supporters who are "upset" for some reason about the possibility that he might. *sigh*
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Yeah
its complicated
Yes, it's this attitude that I don't understand.
If the Senator feels obliged to 'endorse' because of politics, well that really doesn't bother me. I understand. We're adults. I will still respect Bernie for the efforts of the last year. He has to do what he has to do, and we can all do what we want to do.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
endorse because of politics equals as phony as the rest
it tells us that the politician involved is ok with being unreal. You know, the opposite of "reality-based".
Imagine if you and I had a discussion and every fourth statement of mine was a lie. You knew it was a lie. I knew it was a lie, you knew I knew it was a lie....or maybe it wasn't every fourth statement. Maybe it was every fourth statement plus an additional lie thrown in at random points. Maybe for those random lies I'd know it was a lie but you wouldn't be sure. Would you excuse those lies or would you think "this guy is a lying weirdo who will tell the truth when it's convenient"? I would hope the latter!
I respectfully disagree.
This is one guy trying to fight the establishment, along with a large number of the voting public.
He's made deals all the time, to get something done. I won't hold that against him.
And I should say that I don't think he will endorse her.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
The Democratic party IS the establishment.
That's the problem.
Yes, it obviously is
But what is he to do? Be a party of one?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Doesnt' matter now I guess. He is what he is.
He is right in that it's up to the American people, not him. But the primary problem is he is advocating for more and better politicians in the Democratic party. He's arguing for more people to get involved with the Democratic party, to run for office, etc.
How do you advocate for the establishment on the one hand and portend to fight against it on the other?
This is where some will follow his lead and stick with the party while others will not. I don't see that working together.
I have only ever heard him say run for office, not run
as a Democrat. He is still an Independent himself as he has never registered as a Democrat.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Aw come on. He's said he wants to revitalize the
Democratic party many times. So when he talks about electing people for school boards, city councils, on up, he is talking about the democratic party.
Only to those who are not open
to other avenues. He believes the Dem Party can be revitalized and I see no problem with him and others making that effort. It does not rule out others forming a viable third party. It would be a lot healthier if this country had two parties that leaned way left.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
A party of 12 million PLUS voters so far
and more as the votes get counted in CA
He is TENACIOUS and won't take the "word" of anyone at the DNC.
I respect him, and hope he continues to fight for what he believes in.
This is a helluva lot more than just one election.
Keep waiting to hear what FBI Comey has to say to Loretta Lynch.
Also Julian Assange.
Love that he won't use the word "endorse" - especially cuz it's so expected and gets everybody's knickers in a twist that he won't. Love it!
Have you ever had to write a recommendation for
someone who had not given a 100& to the job/company/you? Has anyone ever asked you about a friend or acquaintance and you were 100& pure in your answer? Have you ever sold a used car?
If Sanders says he will support her as the Dem candidate but doesn't use the word "endorse," will you be satisfied or does he have to put himself and all that he is working for on the line so people will continue thinking he is a saint?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Exactly. Becuz Bernie is
going to get on that stage in Philly and say in front of God and everyone that, "I support Her Highness, and I will work hard to make sure the Trumpster is not our next president." Or words to that effect. He may not outright endorse her - although he might - but he is sure as shootin' going to "support her." Short of getting on the Green ticket with Jill - or going it alone - there's No Way he can't not support her.
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I am thinking it will come out something like this:
"Here is the platform and the changes the US American people want [cue platform speech]and I will do everything in my power to help bring these about and defeat Trump and....uh, oh, yeah, support her."
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
"saint" is a red herring, of course
it's merely this: if he endorses her, recommends that we vote for her for any reason I will just ignore him.
So will many of us...at least, ignore the endorsement, not
him. That is what adults do. = )
Yeah, I have been real annoyed by a few people claiming that Sanders' supporters consider him a saint, so it comes out occasionally. It is part of that whole "you are being unrealistic" bs they try to push.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
And respect him for the work he will continue to do.
It is interesting that so many Sanders' supporters take affront when the HRC horde say that Sanders' people think of him as a saint, yet at the possibility of him saying the word "endorse," some Sanders' supporters throw stones at him.
I think he will say something along the line as he has been doing in that he will "support" the Dem candidate against Trump. I am not sure if he will ever use the word "endorse." There is a precedent in that Ted Kennedy never endorsed Carter. There are other things I disagree with him about, saying one word is the least of my worries.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Sigh?
That list is a very good list of reasons why Sanders supporters do NOT want him to endorse her. I'm surprised you don't understand that. The sense of entitlement in Clinton is so strong that that alone should be reason for disqualification.
I Hope Bernie Doesn't Endorse HRC
She is the epitome of most everything he is fighting against.
Using TRUMP doesn't bother me as a scare tactic. I lived through Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and W. Frankly, I find a third Clinton administration to be much scarier than fascist fuckface von Clownstick.
Agree with the last wholeheartedly.
Sanders is a pretty smart fella. I can see him putting an "endorsement" in terms that we can stomach. How would him saying the words "I endorse HRC as the Democratic candidate" effect the bigger picture? Would it mean that all of a sudden he was going to stop working for change, or does it mean that he needs to stay viable in order to hold her feet to the fire?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Bernie's Got Millions to Hold HRC's feet to the Fire
and I, for one, intend to do exactly that.
Amen. I really don't care
if he endorses her or not. What difference does it make? He still travels on, we still travel on. Likely in the same direction. HRC will be the prez. She is Not going to jail. She has a Get Out of Jail Free Card. It's called Village Protection. Protectring their own Club members. You're not in their club. What "They" did to Bernie they will do to Trump. HRC will be prez. Our job is to limit the damage, make her a one termer.
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No angst just expectations
If Bernie is the person I think he is, I do not expect him to endorse Hillary. His rhetoric suggests an understanding of the failures (not his!) of the past. The lack of follow-through and the lost opportunities of the past suggest a "stay the course" strategy to me. I think Bernie is in it for the long game, and not for himself. At least that is what I hope.
I only heard part of the speech
but I heard absolutely no mention of her name. He is advocating for takeover of the Democratic Party. Now?
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He didn't mention her name
Just read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-pappalardo/has-obama-been-misleading_b...
I think Bernie knows a lot more than we do!!!!!!!
I heard it a little differently.
I heard him advocate taking over the whole country, at every stage of government.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Starting at School Board?
Politicians rarely emerge from those depths. Start at Mayor (like he did) and maybe, in 10 years when the world is in turmoil and maybe there is any sort of functional government claw your way up? Those of us over 50 have a different time course in mind. I am not sure about the 20-25 year olds. They see the future looming too.
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School boards can have huge impacts on a
community. The point is activism, not becoming a Senator.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Yes, he wants people to be
actively engaged in the process, in those things that affect their lives. The reason we are where we are now is that people have not been holding elected officials accountable and have not been part of the process.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
He basically did when he said he was going to vote for
her in November.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
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