Alpha's Live Blog for June 7th Part Deux
Submitted by Alphalop on Tue, 06/07/2016 - 8:43pm
Continuing our saga from http://caucus99percent.com/content/alphas-primary-election-live-blog-new...
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Not YET she didn't eom
Right on, Julia!
I'm gonna keep up hope until we see a lot of the Cali numbers!
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This primary has been very tough.
Bernie did something amazing. A real honest progressive candidate and he made a lot of noise, but the machine has done him in. He just had too much going against him--the entire force of the Democratic party. Clinton has won all of the "super Tuesdays," but each time Bernie came back. He has shown us all that we are not alone in our desire for a new direction. Back in the fall, I would never have guessed that he would win a single state. He not only won many, but also galvanized a group of people, like me, who were cynical about the whole system. There really is no way moving forward for him to get this nomination, but that does not mean that the revolution has ended. A sad day, but I am so glad that he ran and united us. The future looks good for a more progressive turn. Thank you Bernie
Agreed, no matter what I think Bernie woke something
that was already stirring, and now that it is awake it ain't going back to sleep.
Even if he "loses" there is still the indictment hanging over Clinton, as well as Stein's outreach to him.
One thing to keep in mind, at least for those of us that have been behind Bernie from the beginning, is that we NEVER expected Sanders to get this far when we started. It is only the massive success that we have had that has made us realize that it was a possibility, but we gotta remember that this was a long shot from out the gate.
No matter what, I think the Sanders campaign has accomplished WAY more than I ever thought it would at the start of this.
I am more fired up than ever for the fight. This hasn't dissuaded me, it has made me realize we need to fight them more than ever.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Sanders takes the lead in MT!!!
Statewide results
166/686 precincts (24.1%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
36,867
48.2%
Hillary Clinton
35,972
47.1%
76,450 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Woot! We need this. It's part of the narrative.
Okay. Opening a second bottle! I have a glass of wine with dinner for the health benefits. The other four are for my snappy repertoire and fabulous dance moves. (I stole that from an Internet meme so don't upvote for that. Instead let me know if you agree with the following statement)
We need the Montana primary to show that Bernie wins more than Clinton....now. In the early days it was Bernie who? Let's turn that into Bernie Now!!!!!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Well, I got white boy disease, so dancing is out of the question
but my repertoire does get wittier until about 2/3rds of the way through bottle 3.
Then it just depends on the company.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Come on CA & MT, don't let me down!!!
I want to end this
bottlenight on an Up note."I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I still am seeing a pattern of media pacing
The narrative is for the East Coast and Midwest to go to bed tonight thinking Bernie didn't "pull it off". Perhaps they won't look at the number the next day. Then they are more likely to accept the media narrative which honestly started yesterday.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Jesus, the CA map looks like a photo negative of what I thought
it would look like.
Still only 12.4% in, but it's not looking at all like I anticipated.
Statewide results
2,774/22,359 precincts (12.4%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
959,325
62.2%
Bernie Sanders
564,560
36.6%
1,541,461 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Well California looks like a
Well California looks like a nightmare.
Still hope in Montana though.
Patience. I'm convinced this is
media narrative paced staging. The counties that "Feel the Bern" have not reported yet. Alameda County, San Francisco County (very densely populated and very motivated politically).
I'm going to make an outright accusation at this point. The media wants people to go to bed tonight "knowing" Clinton won. It started with the AP early release on Monday that Clinton won. Followed by the Clinton "victory" speech this evening.
So now they need to report only the Clinton votes at first and hope that no one notices tomorrow how many more Sanders hadn't been reported yet.
This primary has me putting so many words in quotes because the words don't mean what we think they mean.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
I hope you're right! I'll
I hope you're right! I'll still be awake a couple more hours and will keep checking.
EDIT: Hey her lead just went from 26 to 25 points. Maybe there's hope yet.
Yeah, these numbers are hickey
Tehama County
0/46 precincts (0%) reporting
1799 total votes
Hillary 53.4%
Sanders 43.4%
(90% of that map is just mail-in stuff)
Prediction: Alameda County
Currently: 60 Clinton 38 Bernie (only mail in recorded)
Watch this county. This is Feel the Bern Central.
Also, San Francisco County hasn't voted yet. (another Feel the Bern county)
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Thanks for keeping it positive Wavey, I keep saying I aint gonna
sweat it till 20% comes in, but I am also a liar...
We need a positive post, and here is another to back it up.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
We're a big state with a population greater than Canada
That's why we get 475 delegates.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
#NoEstamosConElla...
Thanks for hosting this tonight, AlphaLop. I am not giving up until
the last Super Super Delegate weighs in after the primaries; and we
know what collective that is. Here in Kali; we ain't done yet!...
#NuncaHillary I'm on board!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Bernie picks up a county and flips one of Clintons in MT
But the race is still close.
Statewide results
232/686 precincts (33.8%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
40,089
48.7%
Hillary Clinton
38,357
46.6%
82,260 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Wow, the next hour of TYT coverage sounds like it's gonna be
good!
I am looking forward to the periscope of the Sanders rally they were talking about.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Two things
One, I was a performance artist in San Francisco circa 1988-1994. My performer name was alpha. I feel a brotherhood with you named alphaLOP. I have imagined the LOP was an obscure acronym for "Learned of Politics".
Two, The Young Turks. I have never heard them before you linked to them. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Oh wow, where have you been? They've been my favorite
YouTube channel for years.
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Actually nothing so glamorous, the LOP comes from my prison days
Inmates referred to some officers as LOP's meaning Lazy, Overweight Police.
I figured if I was gonna be one, I would be their leader, lol!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Oh, and both glad and surprised I could share TYT with you!
I just assume that everyone in the progressive circle knows who they are even though they are in all actuality pretty obscure.
Thanks again for joining us tonight! You have been a blast to chat with.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
NM looks bizarre too-I've noted a couple counties with "0 %"
reporting, yet votes tallied? Mail-ins?
(edited for 'counties'-late nite brain farckle)
Ok, I am now scared that Cenk is saying what I am saying
verbatim.
You reading this thread bro? (If so, you hiring?)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I'm getting the same vibe from TYT
I'm thinking it's not that they are saying what I'm saying. I think it's we are all saying what we are all thinking.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The thought that everyone is thinking the same thing as me
may be even more terrifying.
Once you get past the pornography it's just all violence.
And dragons. Lots and lots of dragons...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Oh wait, never mind, that's just Game of Thrones...
My bad....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
LOL! I do food porn, or pron, but not actual porn.
Dragons are cool. Did you know there are dragon fairies? Perhaps they can bring us some good luck RE Califronia!
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LoL Crowd at Bernie Rally Chants CNN Sucks and TYT!!!
I love these damn Berners....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
CNN is working on a new tagline.
"in lieu of anything else to watch"
The people, united, will never be defeated.
The Clinton News Network eom
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Bernie's lead in MT widens a bit! Come on lets make my
goal come true!
Winning CA and MT will keep this in the narrative, and we need that.
Statewide results
283/686 precincts (41.2%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
41,648
48.6%
Hillary Clinton
39,992
46.7%
85,672 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Sweet! I would love to win California, but even more win
more than California!
I think I'm starting not to make sense....
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Good News! Kamala Harris has won US Senate
Thank you down voters of California. Thanks for showing up!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Yeah, just heard that on TYT. Some good news tonight for her
and her constituents, I bet she will do great.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Great!
I was rooting for Kamala.
Why is that good news?
Can't see anything particularly progressive about her. But I'm not a Cali resident.
"incrementally" it's an improvement.
It's not the end goal by any means.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
I've come to despise the word
I've come to despise the word incrementally. I'll always associate it with Hillary.
Which is why I had to use the word with quotation marks.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
She seems about as far right as Hillary
What am I missing?
Solidarity forever
It's "Incremental"
Yes Hillary lite, but still an improvement.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Actually I was kinda being semi Factious.
I don't know a lot about her, but I know she is enthusiastic about Clinton which is automatically a strike against her in my book but to be honest I am not fully in touch with her.
I really need a snark font.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I'm trying to stick with this until Bernie talks.
I want to know what he's got in his head for the next month and a half.
While I know you are on the other side, I will give you props
for not being over churlish about it and respect you for coming here and being civil.
We may disagree on candidates, but I like to hope we still agree about the important stuff. (even if you are wrong.
)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I did a little research...
from progressive1982's website:
Damn JTC! I think we should change your username to
Columbo...
That is some quick detective work you did there, lol.
"Just one more thing before I go, about this website....."
(Ok, I admit I have been binge watching it on netflix lately)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
That was all the evidence I needed...
If you catch my drift.
Explains a lot. Thanks. n/t
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Taking superdelegates away from Hillary, of course.
One by one they will fall to his Vermonty charm.
Heh.
Edit: This is in response to the question from "progressive" wanting to know what Bern's going to do over the next month and a half.
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What a drag
Boo to my native state California the place where I was born and partly raised. Boo to the rest of the Mad Bomber voters who could careless about anything but screw you I got mine. The fearful ones are just idiots who have been played for the fools they are. This won't do.
I don't want to waste my venom on the people. They are mostly
ignorant rubes manipulated by the system.
All my animosity is reserved purely for those that knowingly support the corrupt system for their own personal benefit and the system itself.
That is our real enemy and we gotta keep that in mind.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Your right
but where do you draw the line? Most of the people manipulated are not to blame at all they are the victims. However I have a hard time understanding why ordinary people continue to support a system that means them harm regardless of their demographic designation according to the lying criminals and psychos that control the false duopoly. The system this country is functioning under is a fiction. Seems I'm not alone and I really hope people of all political stripes figure out a way to stop these psycho's regardless of which party's colors they fly under.
I believe it's attributed to laziness and
distraction. There are those who are too lazy to care enough to research the candidates. They are content with name recognition and a few snippets heard on the news.
Then there are those too distracted trying to eke out a living, they don't have time or energy to research who's running and rely on name recognition and a few snippets heard on the news.
This is what the oligarchy counts on. This is what the oligarchy promotes. Thus us what's got to change. The millennials are on to this. Electing a Drumpf might wake up the rest of the electorate. I just don't know.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Recommended Reading
A well written diary here at C99% shows what might have happened in your birth State and my current home of California.
http://caucus99percent.com/content/voter-suppression-ca-documented-first...
It's not our fault.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
I've seen the comments for that come up in the recent list
but haven't had a chance to venture over there and read it yet. Got the window opened though so I don't forget.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Hey Maddow you're terrible
The rest of the MSNBC panel tries uncomfortably to prevent Rachel Maddow from spewing unnecessary, mean-spirited Politico crap while they twiddle their thumbs impatiently waiting for Bernie to say something about tonight's results when the key issue (CA) is unknown.
I will NEVER watch her again.
Ana sums it up, "I am not bitter, I just disagree with her
politics, so stop telling me to quit being bitter!"
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
They're starting to count actual CA votes
25% reporting
CANDIDATES VOTE PCT.
Hillary Clinton 1,025,725 61.4%
Bernie Sanders 625,226 37.4
Yeay! hopefully we will see a big shift in the numbers...
because this is not looking at all like a reflection of reality.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Heading to bed
Thanks for the company this evening. I'll be catching up on everything in 5 and a half hours over coffee. Groan.
"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." Stephen Hawking
NEW: http://www.twitter.com/trueblueinwdc
All I can say is better you than me, lol!
The one good part to being semi-retired early, I can set my own sleep schedule.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Bernie is pulling away in
Bernie is pulling away in Montana. Hillary led early. People who hadn't yet heard Bernie and voted mail in went for Hillary. Those who took the time to find out what he was about actually voted at the polls and now the state is feeling the Bern.
Hopefully, that repeats in Cali.
You know one of the first investigative reports
She ever did was on the fellowship aka the family, the c street org that pushes a fucked up version of Christianity that preaches people in power are put there by God and to punish them for corruption is a slap in God's face. She of course left out the fact that Hillary made the statement that Douglas Coe the leader of the family is her spiritual advisor.
Solidarity forever
My guess is there were a LOT of provisional ballots.
When I voted this morning, two kids at my polling place weren't on the list. They were given provisional ballots, even though each had registered within the last month. The polling guy told them that the list of registered voters was six weeks old. Whaaa? Provisional votes may "disappear" if someone decides they're too much of a hassle to check.
Lots of reports of this sort
Lots of reports of this sort of thing on reddit unfortunately. Correct me if I'm wrong but I was given to understand that apparently you have to ask for a special Crossover ballot if you are NPP? That right there was a huge red flag more me. My state allows Independents to crossover too but we get a regular Democratic ballot. I read reports today of clueless poll workers telling NPP that had no idea what they were talking about and were handing out provisionals. Granted, anyone can go on reddit and make stuff up but the system DOES sound whack.
Yes, I'm afraid Bern might lose because of stupid ballot
confusion. So frustrating!!
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I believe that is a feature, and not a bug in the process.
If it was broken in a way that they wanted fixed it would have been done decades ago.
The democratic party is just as corrupt as their opponents.
A fact that I feel like a fool for not noticing until now.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Well, I've never been this involved in the primary process
because I didn't care that much. Even when it was Hill-Barack, their policies were similar. And I was pretty sure BHO had it in the bag.
Now that so many have paid attention, hopefully we can fix it. I'd trade caucuses for open primaries everywhere. And no more supers. As I've been pointing out to the Hillbots who don't want Bern going after the supers, who try to say it's racist, I tell them it's no different from any other year. So either the supers disenfranchise somebody's votes, or they're redundant and unnecessary.
But as always, of course, they don't want to take responsibility for the way the Dem party has set everything up.
BTW: Trois
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Precisely why
We all need to go to an open primary system.
I'm in Ohio. There's none of this registered Democrat/registered Republican crap. I'm a registered voter - period.
Primary day I walk in, sign my name, the poll worker asks me which ballot I want. I always say Democratic, but the point is I could just as easily say Re... the other one and have it handed to me no questions asked.
Of course, the down side here is that you can only vote for members of the party you declared at the table, and indies can only vote on the issues (which is wrong IMHO). But all this changing your affiliation weeks or months in advance, handing out provisional ballots, or "crossover" ballots that probably won't get counted at all is bullshit pure and simple.
All my life I've heard about this astounding government "of the people, by the people, and for the people." There ain't a word of truth to any of it, and if there ever was, there hasn't been in a long time.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
That is correct, and a fact that Poll Workers were explicitly
told not to volunteer according to credible reports earlier.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Sanders flips another 2 counties in MT and picks up another 4!!!
Statewide results
460/686 precincts (67%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
55,115
50.4%
Hillary Clinton
49,434
45.2%
109,396 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Nice! Looks like we'll win Montana comfortably.
"We will..." Sounds like he's not conceding tonight! Yippee!!
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Bernie gonna talk on TYT
https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/
#StillSanders :D
Bernie is giving his speech on TYT right now!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
disappointing piling-on at TOP using Politico article
some real vitriol over there re: implosion in Bernie campaign with the "bitter old man" framing.... so much for unity and banning ball-spiking...
@eState4Column5
So glad I made the commitment to stop going there.
more than once a week or so purely for strategic purposes, and tonight and tomorrow ain't gonna be one of those days.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
If anyone's still here--listen to that crowd! He can't even
speak!
Love it!!!!!!
Mollie
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makes a liar out of the Times reporter
talking to Rachel about how the Sander's supporters in the crowd were essentially giving up when faced with Obama calling Hillary.
We're still here. Here and listening to TYT on YouTube at
the same time. Go Bernie!
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Yes! "Next week we will continue on to the primary in
Washington DC... and then we take our fight for social, economic, racial and environmental justice to Philadelphia."
Young Turks are going nuts!!
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Back to our earlier conversation, elena,
even Cenk is saying it wrong. Says she has the most delegates as of now and whoever has the most should win. She has more than Bernie, BUT she does not have more than half. That is the rules. The 2383.
Yes, I was disappointed to hear that from Cenk. She will not
have 2383 with pledged delegates alone, so the nom is contested right up to the convention; Bern can go to the convention and make his case to the supers. The supers are not likely to switch, but might if something happens meanwhile. They really should switch because she has little to no support from independents and thus may very well lose. But if they were going to do that, they wouldn't have fought so hard to this point.
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closer
33% reporting
CANDIDATES VOTE PCT.
Hillary Clinton 1,099,553 60.4%
Bernie Sanders 700,565 38.5
so, what happened? Did he win CA? He speaks and didn't win?/nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
Ca is still in play, the numbers are still coming in and hasn't
been called yet
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
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