Alan Grayson Must Think He Posted By Mistake On RedState

He dared challenge the Democratic Party elite on you know where, now I am no fan of Grayson, but beyond his bombastic style I read what he has to say and that in this case he points out the blindingly bloody obvious [with a little garnish]. So what did he actually have to say:-

The disenfranchisement of Democratic voters in choosing our candidates has been largely ignored by the complicit national media. Leaders have been replaced or squelched by corporate bag men. We have been directed to sit down, shut up, and do what we are told. Or, as Archie Bunker used to say to Edith, “Stifle!”

Up for grabs, right now, is the very notion that candidates matter, that programs matter, that government matters, and that democracy even exists. Any candidate who shows the slightest commitment to Democratic principles is condemned by the party overlords and their media stenographers as “unelectable,” or “ideological,” or “unrealistic.” In fact, the one last thing that the Democratic Politburo is good at is defeating progressive Democratic candidates. Lord knows that they don’t have a clue about how to beat Republicans. In Florida, a very purple state, party bosses have delivered the nomination in statewide races to right-wing Democrats virtually every time this century. And we have lost 14 of those 15 races.

Needless to say the reception was predictable, the same one most of us here have received ourselves - have a read if you must [you've seen it all before] but go prepared for the hatred on show.

I am listening to the favorite in the race tell me that she will reduce money in politics' but at the same time grabbing the cash with arms flung open wide, her opponent has refused to play that game. How many times must I listen to her say one thing whilst cashing in the checks?

She calls for more transparency on Wall St whilst refusing to release what she said to many of their companies and got paid vast sums for so doing.

As Grayson is finding out, pointing out the bloody obvious gets a vicious backlash these days.

The only candidate consistent in both actions and words is Bernie Sanders and gosh the backlash has been consistently nasty. Running on traditional Democratic Party principles is quite simply treasonous.

It seems that no matter what they are going to get exactly what they deserve Hillary or Trump and once again the rest of us will enjoy the fruits of their labor, sigh.

I'll finish with these words from Grayson

I’m trying to change that. I’m trying to remind our party that we don’t have to be Republican to beat a Republican – that never works -- and that we can still be champions for the People. But there’s only so much I can do alone.

How many of us have said the same damn thing, over and over again, with what result

Oh and don't forget

Vote the least bad!

Halle-fucking-lu-jah

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Eric Park · Marketing Specialist at Round Table Marketing Media
I almost took this seriously until I saw Alan Grayson wrote it.

Nothing to see here. Move along. The Democratic Louis Gohmert is at it again.

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Elizabeth Galeles · Seattle, Washington
Couldn't agree more.
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No discussion of what is being said, just resort to vitriol.

The reply was even more idiotic.

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Yeah, I saw a shout out for the article on reddit so I had to go (and actually log-in and) give it a vote, and I read some comments there. EEK. That place is unhealthy for the soul.

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just the person.

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...that the so-called Democrats at Little Orange Footballs used to claim they hated when Republican'ts did it...

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I want my two dollars!

hell of a bad candidate, luckily for them it's Trump on the other sider

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luck has nothing to do with it. Trump didn't just luckily appear to oppose Hillary. It was planned to be Trump vs Hillary all along.

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It would be the biggest joke on the Republican party ever, if it wasn't also a joke on the rest of us.

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I suspect that it was more the case that Trump entered the race to be the boogeyman that Clinton could use to scare the Democrats into nominating her and suppressing her Democratic rivals. That Trump ended up becoming the Republican nominee was just a bonus for them.

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Love is my religion.

You don't mean that was 'planned', do you?

/s

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Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

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bombastic style. I have one very specific problem with him. At one time he was questioned about supporting a raise in taxes on the rich, and he very clearly opposed it. He suggested that it wouldn't be efficient.

My suspicion is that Grayson likes to be very loud about certain issues, but I'm not certain about his real support for taxing the rich and a truly progressive tax rate. I think he makes a lot of noise about certain other issues so that when he doesn't help in the core areas we care about most, we will ignore it.

I hope I'm wrong.

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or another, even Bernie, then again what are the actual results of their words and Hillary's miss not just a line or two but a whole library

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For a while, the Tip Jar had been hidden, but Several others and I Recc'd it back to visibility. I'll probably get a warning for it. Meh!

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When I looked on the front page, it said he had 30-some recs, but when I opened the diary the tip jar was hidden and it only showed four recs. I wanted to rec it, but I didn't think it would take. Didn't know you could rec something out of diary hell, but now that I do, I hopped back over and gave him another one.

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He doesn't go around reading site rules or losing sleep over Kos' edicts I am sure, but he's a Democratic member of Congress, more progressive than his primary opponent who I understand used to be Republican, and he gave TOP some of his no doubt very limited time. I thought the least they should do is argue issues, not smear.

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Seeing more and more fellow refugees here from TOP. Nice to see you here, EC.

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In exposing the Democratic Party, and of course the entire Establishment Dem blogosphere, for who and what they are. Who ever would have thought that Dems would coalesce around a candidate who campaigned on "Single Payer will never, ever, happen" ? Of course, try pointing that out and you'll get the sort of response Grayson has been getting.

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The good Christian should beware of mathematicians. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell. -- St. Augustine of Hippo

Now that he has exposed the corruption wherever it exists, at every level of the party and in every state, we can all see it for what it is. It should in theory now be possible to specifically target all that corruption and eliminate it, and reclaim the party for the ordinary working people. It's incumbent upon us to do, and especially to honor all the hard work and effort that Bernie has put into this for all of our benefit.

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Love is my religion.

He speaks truth to the establishment. No wonder TOP doesn't want to hear it.

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likes or dislikes of the person saying them. He is anything but boring and that is often enough.

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Clinton camp recruit, former Republican Patrick Murphy. They are circling the wagons.

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he ran against West didn't he?

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But I sure did agree with everything he said. Frankly I was kind of amazed at the reaction. I mean he didn't say THE NAME of any specific person of the female persuasion who happened to be running for the WH. And anyone whose been watching Democratic politics for the last couple decades and doesn't see anything wrong needs to pull their head out of their ass.

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Alan is the one that called out the Repub version of health care for exactly what it is: "Don't get sick, and if you do die quickly". He's a Democrat from what's left of the Democratic wing of the party.

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I do occasionally go to TOP, but hadn't today. He has some fine zingers in there (for example, "In fact, the one last thing that the Democratic Politburo is good at is defeating progressive Democratic candidates.").
I also see that he has over 190 recs on that essay. I expect that the Kos Politburo is miffed.

It's probably time for Grayson to adopt FDR's attitude; "I welcome their hatred". My reaction to the viciously angry people who go rabid at the thought of Grayson is ... best not printed.

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I refuse to comment in that cesspit of a comments section

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to the bottom of the screen!

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already. There is no way he posted there not know how establishment-supporting the place has become. He posted that essay there, in part, because he wanted to take the fight to the hypocritical defenders of the establishment, I hope.

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that place a few days ago, said he couldn't stand it.

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Confused him for a second with Hartman (my bad) and that's why I began my reply.

Anywho, just saw it today. Wanted to scream at him!

Clinton is 22 delegates shy of the brass ring, and unless the Earth crashes into the sun, New Jersey will deliver those to her before the stars come out on the East Coast. MSNBC's human weathervane and certified Clinton lackey Chris Matthews let it drop this weekend that the major networks were going to officially declare Clinton the Democratic nominee hours before the polls close in California if she crossed the threshold on the Jersey shore. Sorry, California. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/36322-endgame-setting-the-table-fo...

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I have always liked him.

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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It might as well be DeadState.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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...... an excellent moniker for Daily Kos if I ever saw one!

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DeadState - I luv it

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

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Because he pointed out the truth about the Republican "Health Care Plan".

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Oligarchy in action

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I won't sign back into there to do it but it would be nice if they did.

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I don't believe this site was created by Sanders supporters. That they support him, yes. From what I've read, this is an issues oriented site, not a candidacy site. That we Berners have been welcomed here with open arms when deadsite became inhospitable has been, and IS just amazing. My point is, I don't want to take away from the amazing work the originators established. Not your intent, I know.
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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

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Lookout's picture

From last month about 15 min "Taking down corporate democrats"

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO5hMa37A3g]

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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They remind me of the Republican Party of 25 years ago

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Someone agreed with me on the intertubes!

Wink

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on that site is soul sucking. Sad

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Love is my religion.

none at all.

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They've gone full hate over there. Not worth wasting a minute of my life with that circle-jerk.

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I am fortunate in that I have never met anyone in the real world who bears any relation to the usual suspects at TOP. They are humorless, unself-aware, obnoxious jerks.

And that is just the front pagers. As for the new batch of commenters -ugh.

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“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire

otherwise it's "is this meant to be snark" followed by "I don't think so cuz there is no snark tag!"

Hunter, who can actually write has to use a king size brick and it gets repetitive after a couple of diaries about the same satirical object

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It's gotten so bad, so quickly, it's hard to even remember that we were all on the same side way back when. But we were. Now? A post by a true progressive is now greeted like a raiding party from Fox News would have been treated just a year ago. I do go over to rec the remaining stalwarts, but they are few and very far between at TOP these days.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

thought oh good a place for me, its gone downhill badly the last few years.

Banned from Huffy for reminding her of her time in London

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and then on closer inspection I would see its a lot of front pagers, previous front pagers and Kos himself.

I am not a fan of Ct but it really feels like Kos made some deal with the party establishment.

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people, then endorse the boring candidate and smear all the young people?

That's not a business model. Unless someone paid you a lot of money to go all in on the boring candidate.

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but a *lot* of money.

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Has Alan been invited to post here. He'd get a better response...

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... diary I bother to read (or comment on) at Little Orange Footballs (lol, so apt). As I put it, there is no point in talking to a bunch of jokers with rectally impacted craniums. They really do not care about "better" Democratic candidates anymore. The level of anger and tribalism over there is beyond the point of no return.

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the candidate who, though she has won, can't handle ANY critique. They're the most unhealthy bunch of mealy-mouthed, hypocritical hacks that are all about themselves and their fat golden asses, and nobody else's. When I read their words, I know how sellouts work--blame everyone. Point away. Deflect away. Push blame elsewhere.

It's sick. I've truly never, in all my years online, seen such a toxic bunch of idiot sycophants in one place. It's pathetic what that place has become. A thousand little Napoleons, trying to see who can screech louder.

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God as if there were not enough Republicans that fled the crazy pretending to be Democrats and many over there convinced that they are, jesus HFC

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Where Republicans fled the crazy and found a warm lucrative nest with Mama Clinton. It's like a Borg hive.

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They flat out say you will be assimilated. As such they are far more honest.

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When I was a kid, Republicans used to red scare people, now it's the Democrats. I am getting too damn old for this crap!

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People who had seemed like rational, critical thinkers have become willfully blinded to their candidate's many conflicts of interest and oblivious to all facts set before them. It's amazing. I will remember them. In time I may forgive, but I will not forget. The willingness to be verbally abusive reveals something about them that is distinctly anti-liberal. It's just as well we know where we, and they, stand now, but it is disheartening.

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Fern

What event made Alan Grayson so hated over at TOP? It's like one day he was a liberal stalwart and the next he was the devil over there.

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they refuse to get with the program

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there just knows the party is perfect as is.

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Fern

It will be interesting to watch Florida drama one more time.

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Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking

The 'investigation' is ultimately nothing more than a sham, something establishment politicians can point to and make a news cycle out of it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/279925-rep-alan-grayson...

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driven away David Sirota, Glenn Greenwald, Cenk Uygur, Michael Moore, and Keith Olbermann from posting there. Same kinda shit in the comments, every time.

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I miss Colorado.

Some of my best memories of nature are from hikes in the mountains.

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Someone over there posted a video of Kos on Stephen Colbert back when he was promoting Crashing the Gates. Credit where credit is due, color me impressed.

But. One book-pushing appearance does not put you in the same league as any of the above. And I recall, before we had the "everybody get out who's a Bern fan" nonsense, we had the "everybody get out who's not willing to engage in the comments" nonsense. Now sure, I'd be delighted if Keith Olbermann responded to my comments. But if he's too busy to take a full day to engage with Kossacks, or dead staters, then fine, I'd still rather read what he has to say over, for example, Armando. It's no contest.

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What a bunch of douche bags.

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as I recall

Grayson dared to ask for donations,
for some fellow-Candidates -- in FL I think.

That, and that he didn't take the time,
to comment and respond to their faux outrage.

Folks started calling him a 'hit-and-run' poster,
and it went seriously downhill after that.

as I recall faulty memory and all;
I never stopped supporting him.

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Thank you La Feminista for posting this. I was hoping someone would.
Thought this was one of Grayson's most inspirational letters, but I find them all pretty good! He must send out one or two of these a day for campaign funding. Wish he was running in my state.

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Lewie

include a link to donate to his campaign.

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Over on Reddit early this morning enlisting their help to uprate it. When I checked back at TOP at 11:45am (PST) his diary was on the rec list with over 250 recommends.

I also understand it was published over at HuffPo as well.

Good. I hope it gets as many eyeballs as possible. Needs to be said. Hopefully working with A Brand New Congress will get similar voices on board.

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to log-in at the GOS and, subsequently, to send Mr Grayson a note

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I enjoyed hearing you sent Grayson a response. I would've posted the DKos link here in addition to Reddit but was under the impression direct links to TOP were not encouraged. Which I understand. So then you are also on KFS over at Reddit where you saw my post?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Just wanted to stop by to say "hello". I'm glad you brought your daily musings over here, yay!

Everytime I go back to TOP, I regret it the moment I succumb to temptation and click on any link. The comments of pretty much every diary are filled with both Bernie hate and general progressive hate. I cannot believe I was on that website for so goddamned long, I pretty much can't stand it now.

Daily Kos has become the antithesis of everything is used to stand for. How disgusting and how sad.

I hope Rep. Grayson starts posting here from now on. That would be sweet! Smile

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I miss Colorado.

It was always bubbling away, now its a free for all tanks to the owners attitude. It's becoming worse because many of us have left the putrid swamp behind

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visit us by the end of the summer. We are moving after that.

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