I voted for her, I know people who voted for Bernie, and I know people that will vote for Stein. Everyone's just got to vote for who they vote for.

Thanks for sharing that.

Debating Trump vs. Hillary is like debating whether you'd like your left or right leg amputated.

And, dismal though it is to consider, the thing that really disturbs me is this: if Trump proposes to cut/privatize Social Security, the Dems will fight him (I think). But if Hillary proposes the "grand bargain," will the Dems fight her? It's troubling to consider, and if you accept the analysis, it would be better to endure four years of Trump, end the dominance of the Clinton machine, and pick up the pieces in 2020 rather than have eight more years of neoliberal ascendancy in the Democratic party. Ah, what the world has come to....

          Too strident‽ maybe but I like to think the "founding fathers" would be offended by the notion that we are reduced to selecting the lesser of the anointed evils.

Trump's a monster they say. They're right. There is a monster in the closet. Problem is that there's a monster in both closets, so I'm not opening those doors.

When a rotten system presents me with two unacceptable choices, the logical response is to reject them both. (and then start cutting the rot out of the system or work around it to present acceptable choices)

which are enabling the election fraud, the corporate buy-outs of candidates, and the systemic corruption in all levels of government, especially local and state offices?

A century ago, when information was not easily broadcast or widespread as it is today, a political party was useful for identifying the generally-uninformed voter about the platform and tendencies of a particular candidate.

Not so today. And even those party lines are blurry these days. Hillary could run as a Republican, Trump could run as a Democrat, Bernie could run as a Green. Would it make much difference? It largely wouldn't sway my preference, because I already have access to databases and electronic akashic records on every individual who aspires for public office.

Don't need a party label to store the basic positions and platforms by him or her in my mental file cabinet.

A candidate needs to be vetted from local to national level as an individual, and move up from bottom to the top, based on a consistent record of working for the benefit of society. Right now, with the exception of outsiders like Bernie and Jill Stein, it works from the top down. You're not worthy of running for office unless you are already a millionaire or taking bribes carefully-concealed as "campaign contributions". And then you'll need to rig the votes to make it appear that you are popular. Or you just mouth off sensational drivel to agitate the crowds thru hypothetical, lunatic policies.

I'm sure that there are oligarch-free campaign systems in other nations to restructure the US election process. The life-cycle of the 2 main political parties has finally reached its natural end. There is no need to invest in the dead.

He's aired some really good commercials to go with all of his really good positions. Hillary's proven track record ought to be enough to destroy her. How anyone can support this awful woman and her disgusting husband is beyond me. Talk about the Teapots voting against their own interests, partisan Democrats are right there with them fighting for the right to sell them and us out.

knocks it out of the park! This country deserves a man of vision and integrity like no other modern politician.