Publishing in Politico doesn't make you NSDAP

But it sure helps. From Politico:

Fighting against the USSR didn’t necessarily make you a Nazi

Primary argument:

This history is complicated because fighting against the USSR at the time didn’t necessarily make you a Nazi, just someone who had an excruciating choice over which of these two terror regimes to resist.

Let me put it this way. The Nazi plan for Ukraine, overseen by Heinrich Himmler, was to kill off the vast majority of the locals and send the rest to labor camps while Ukraine became the new German homeland. If you were "fighting against the USSR at the time," you were hoping to be granted the status of honorary German (in order to, you know, survive), and therefore you were either a Nazi or you were working with them. No amount of "but the Soviet Union was bad too" is going to change historical fact.

Oh but it's so complicated! Meanwhile, as Alex Christoforou tells us, the history of Ukraine is extremely simple for the collective West. Russia invaded, and Ukraine must resist. Don't worry about the extraordinary amount of forgetting it takes to arrive at such a conclusion. We must prop up Justin Trudeau at all costs!

Or, of course, there's the explanation we get from Matt Taibbi:

The Politico Europe editor approving it was either high on glue, or finally decided yesterday to come to work in his secret Schutzstaffel uniform. No other explanation fits.

Okay? Okay.

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Did the Lithuanian cops chose Hitler while actively and volunteering engaging in mass genocide as a viable choice?

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This history is complicated because fighting against the USSR at the time didn’t necessarily make you a Nazi, just someone who had an excruciating choice over which of these two terror regimes to resist. However, the idea that foreign volunteers and conscripts were being allocated to the Waffen-SS rather than the Wehrmacht on administrative rather than ideological grounds is a hard sell for audiences conditioned to believe the SS’s primary task was genocide. And simple narratives like “everybody in the SS was guilty of war crimes” are more pervasive because they’re much simpler to grasp.

That’s all I’m going to read of this whitewash of Nazi crimes. Russia wasn’t a terrorist regime for gawd’s sake. They were fighting against the German Nazi regime that invaded their country and then they moved on to exterminate them in other countries. The fact that Poland of all countries is helping Ukraine defeat Russia for finally protecting the people in the Donbas from another Nazi regime is beyond belief! I will be posting a great article in the blues that I hope people will read.

Political is just another worthless rag that has sold out its principles.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

@snoopydawg matter, Poland is complicated. They well remember how Russia invaded from the east and took the eastern half of the country just a few weeks after Germany had invaded from the west on Sept 1, 1939. Per wiki, these events came just days after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact had been signed in August, which supposedly had a clause agreeing to an equal partition of countries in central and Eastern Europe.

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@wokkamile
following World War I. There hadn't even been a Poland, as an independent state, since 1795.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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“The Democrats and Republicans want you to believe they are mortal enemies engaged in a desperate struggle when all the time, they are partners with a power-sharing agreement.” - Richard Moser

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@Cassiodorus
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"You can’t have a movement unless you have tenderness and kindness in your solidarity, even if you have deep disagreements, and for some of us we just want to make it soulful."

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@Cassiodorus to grow a peace movement. Let's hold a rally on a Tuesday and only invite our fellow lefties who are pure enough so we can talk in a small group in peace and harmony. Great idea.

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@wokkamile Success, that is, in getting "the left" to be pro-war, so that said "left" can cheer them on as they throw ever more pointless sums of money and weaponry into the Ukraine scam. Perhaps the meeting is organized in this way to stave off despair and to plan for something a little more adventurous in some imagined future.

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“The Democrats and Republicans want you to believe they are mortal enemies engaged in a desperate struggle when all the time, they are partners with a power-sharing agreement.” - Richard Moser

@Cassiodorus easy and misleading to blame Grandpa Joe entirely for the demise of the antiwar Left. We need only go back a few more yrs to Obama who kept or recycled the various neocons and R2P liberal hawks who have done so much to keep the country on a war footing, while the former antiwar Left was too afraid to challenge the popular first-time ever black president as he undertook Libya, the 2014 Maidan Coup, and maintained adversarial relations w Russia.

As to the meeting last night, or what was advertised as a rally, I'm sure Medea Benjamin and Lee Camp enjoyed another opportunity to virtue signal as CW once again preached another sermon to the choir.

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@wokkamile Cornel West does, and it caught the attention of Rising:

A minor footnote to all of that is that the primary exponent of Obama warmongering was Hillary Clinton Obama's fist-term Secretary of State. At least with Clinton there were "progressives" who found the wherewithal to oppose her.

The "progressive" cheerleading behind Team Biden is of a historic nature. The ambitiousness of the Team Biden foreign policy project, the sheer number of the lies upon which this project is based, and the complete inadequacy of the resources Team Biden has on hand to deal with the project's outcomes make it historically transformative.

The conscious world sees the "progressive" cop-out in endorsing Team Biden and its project, all the way down to the Canadian Parliament's cheering on an old Nazi, and is frightened to an extent never seen before. Here's Simplicius the Thinker, laying out outcomes for us:

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/army-war-college-report-predicts

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“The Democrats and Republicans want you to believe they are mortal enemies engaged in a desperate struggle when all the time, they are partners with a power-sharing agreement.” - Richard Moser

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@humphrey thinks it is using the other. Isn't there a saying about when you dance with the devil... This cannot end well.

Thank you, Cassiodorus, for this thread. I rarely read politico, Voice of the Washington Consensus of the month.

I recall Stalin in WWII not attending meetings with Churchill and Roosevelt because the German invasion required his presence in Russia. Zelensky seems to spend as much time out of his country as in it.

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@Nastarana
and apparently he knows it.

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Hmm 2 different community notes for the same tweet? This is what I wanted to embed.

Just weird that it did it again.

Community Note that I see and I’m trying to embed.

The article is historically inaccurate.
This 1943 film shows Waffen SS "Galicia" Division volunteers parading in Lviv before SS brigade governor Dr. Otto von Wächter. The Division commander was Oberfuhrer Fritz Freitag, a fanatical Nazi; it commited major war crimes.

Maybe check the tweet yourself and see how it looks.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.