Why is bombing hospitals in Mosul acceptable?

U.S.-coalition aircraft bombed a children's hospital in Mosul today.
This wasn't the first Mosul hospital we bombed.

Three weeks ago we bombed another hospital in Mosul.
The only difference is that the first hospital we knowingly, and intentionally targeted.

You probably weren't aware of this.

And why should you be when the news media was saturated by hospitals being bombed in Aleppo, which is totally different.

One is Mosul, in northern Iraq, where western reporters are accompanying an army of liberation as it frees a joyful population from terrorist control. The other concerns Aleppo, just a few hundred miles to the west. This, apparently, is the exact opposite. Here, a murderous dictator, hellbent on destruction, is waging war on his own people.
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Nevertheless, the situations in Mosul and Aleppo are fundamentally identical. In both cases, forces loyal to an internationally recognised government are attacking well-populated cities, with the aid of foreign air power. These cities are under the control of armed groups or terrorists, who are holding a proportion of their population hostage.

Another difference is how Assad bombed civilians, unlike us.

In addition, air strikes appear to have led to dozens of civilian deaths since the start of the coalition assault on Mosul on Oct. 17, 2016. Through Nov. 30, 2016, Airwars has recorded a total of 41 alleged coalition civilian casualty incidents in and around Mosul. Between them these claim as many as 318 civilian deaths.

So as you can see, it's totally different.

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CB's picture

SAA and Russia bombed 92 hospitals (67 of them children's) in Aleppo alone. Also, the Syrian government and Russians specifically targeted hospitals (paying special attention to children's) while in America's case it was simply a matter of a misunderstanding. In US military jargon these are called oopsies. Don't forget that there are no civilians in Mosul, just collaterals, so it's not a war crime.

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CB's picture

ones as well.

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Muddy Boots's picture

because of need. Need is like that.

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CB's picture

safest place to take cover and store weapons was in hospitals and schools. That, in and of itself, is a war crime. If a hospital is used by the enemy as a base to store weapons or to engage in battle, it then becomes a legitimate target and not a war crime to bomb.

BTW, All Red Cross and MSF hospitals are mandated weapons free (armed guards are allowed at gates and periphery for security). Here's the one that the US bombed in Kabul:

MSF opens surgical hospital in Kunduz
Only trauma centre of its kind in north of country
As violent conflict continues in northern Afghanistan, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has opened a 55-bed surgical hospital in Kunduz Province. The hospital, which opened on Aug. 29, provides urgent surgical care and follow-up treatment for people suffering life-threatening injuries. Fighting over the last year in Kunduz has led to large numbers of people who have sustained bomb blast, shrapnel and gunshot wounds, and who are in need of specialized surgical care.
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In all locations where MSF is working in Afghanistan, a strict no-weapons policy is implemented to ensure patient safety and security. It is imperative that no armed people are present in medical structures. Such a presence could make the facilities targets of attack.

Bombing that hospital is definitely a war crime.
Here's a video when the terrorists mortar bombed a Russian field hospital that was just setting up to receive and treat civilians evacuating from East Aleppo. The female doctor you see being carried out later died (along with another).

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edg's picture

but that kind of bullshit propaganda doesn't fly very well around here. Perhaps you're more familiar with Daily Kos, where fake news is celebrated.

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92 hospitals in half a city.
You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a hospital.

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CB's picture

Wink

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dervish's picture

Weekly World News, or maybe the National Enquirer are far more reliable sources than DKos. DKos floats down around the level of a WH press release, or an Intel assessment by John McCain, or maybe an earnest assurance by Bernie Madoff.

Most of their output is now fake news.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

Last spring DKos officially undertook a policy change becoming a Fake News outlet, while there may be some actual news there at times, the site has published so much propaganda that it is hard to discern what is real news vs what is fake news on the site.

I would suggest avoiding it all together to avoid confusion of facts and fiction...

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

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asterisk's picture

Are you saying that you are a vile moron orange vulgarian horror supporter?

This was in response to my post objecting to the drone killing of the 16-year old American kid by Obama. My lack of Obama-worship met with the predictable response.

I'm not quite sure if I am the "vile moron" or if that is suppose to refer to the "orange vulgarian". Feel free to explain to me what this means if you can figure it out.
So far I have been virtuous and not gone back to make fun of this person. Would I get a time out if I asked if this person is related to Sarah Palin?

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Oldest Son Of A Sailor's picture

How's your hidden count? You'll get one of those for sure...

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detroitmechworks's picture

In 2008.

SE side of the city. Cold wind blew through the top floor, because the stairwell was open to the elements. We put up sheets, but it didn't help much.

The fact that it had been a US bomb which had made the hole made sleeping difficult.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Big Al's picture

This will make barely a ripple in the ruling class media and with Congress. Just another run of the mill war crime committed by the Empire. Innocent kids killed.

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dervish's picture

we do it for the cause of Good.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Bollox Ref's picture

They blow you away with their awesomeness.

Really friendly, giant sparklers.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

reflectionsv37's picture

It's what the US does and has done, repeatedly. We did it multiple times in Vietnam. When I visited there last year, I read reports that destroyed nearly all the hospitals in Vietnam while we bombed the shit out of everything. The only civilian targets we hit more than hospitals appears to be weddings. We seem to like weddings too.

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Amanda Matthews's picture

an 'inconvenience'. For example:

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