Warren being cynical and dishonest

Warren being told that Bernie is sending his supporters to trash her.

Oh come on, Liz. You say you know Bernie. Did you seriously think that he would do that? Of course you didn't, but you'll do anything just to win won't you?

The email.

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The bottom tweet has been retweeted numerous times by people such as Neera Turner who keeps calling for unity and to tell people to play nice and then to vote blue no matter who!

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Just think folks...if Bernie gets elected and somehow gets his agendas passed people might have the chance to not go broke after having an illness or surgery. But imagine giving up the chance of that happening just because some idiot said something mean to you on Twitter. For gawd's sake Bernie has millions of supporters and I don't understand why people think that he is responsible for every damn thing they say. "Mom! Bernie's supporter said something mean to me!" Give me a damn break.

Warren has gone back on almost every one of the policies that she initially embraced in order to seem just like Bernie. If she actually wanted to do the things she says she does then she would never have run in the first place and she would have told people to get behind Bernie. And great job, Liz for going after Bernie instead of telling people how badly Biden has screwed this country in the long years he was able to. Not one thing ByeDone did helped anyone who wasn't rich.

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snoopydawg's picture

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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

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Never mind....

Yep lots of reading comprehension difficulties tonight. Must be the drugs.

Smile

Way of the Bern has an excellent thread on this. Lots more information on this.

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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

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WotB has the timeline of how it played out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/envlc1/timeline_of_a_manu...

and:

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but it's all over now...

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@on the cusp

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02

that's no lie.

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@on the cusp @on the cusp @on the cusp OnTheCusp and Fishtroller (below - edit:above) win the internets for me today.

edit - adding irish and Dr.JohnC

All four of you for the win!

thanks for that! Y'all rock!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

@dystopian reading these comments as they popped up!

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@on the cusp With mixed emotions. Too bad her campaign went running to the shelter of this mother’s little helper. But I have no sympathy for the devil. But when the whip comes down and Liz goes away, I promise to say “miss you”.

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but she's out of practice. You're supposed to do something and then accuse your opponent of doing it, not accuse your opponent of what you are doing right then and there.

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A PROUD Hillary hater since 1993

@doh1304 as others have pointed out, she didn’t move left, the political landscape moved right and she stayed where she was. That’s why her attempts to coattail on progressive issues have always seemed like an awkward fit. It’s not who she is.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

They want the left divided.
So they will encourage Warren to play the victim. And since her campaign is in trouble, she'll probably do it.

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@gjohnsit

She needs no encouragement.

Hillary 2.0.

If Bernie picks Warren for VP, even I will have a hard time voting for him.

BTW, y'all quoting that Stones' song are misogynists!/S

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@Wally

Hillary 2.0

Biden is MUUCCCHH closer to being Hillary 2.0 than Warren is.

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@gjohnsit

to channel his inner Hillary?

Nah. Tom Watson has joined in with Warren.

Biden will figure out a way to attack Bernie on his own with Obama's help.

Edit/added this and that as I thought about it more.

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@gjohnsit Although I don't intend to vote for her, and I doubt at this point she will get the nom or do better than 3d place, EW would generate/maintain enthusiasm in the party in the general. Whereas even many of Joe's current backers are barely half-backers, many finding him merely a good enough candidate to carry the ball for electability reasons only.

Dems will need a nominee who generates some fair level of excitement, or at least not one who like Hillary would dampen it, in order to defeat Trump. The other side will be revved up to save their cult leader and their turnout will probably be high. Biden as nominee would, like Hillary and Kerry, probably end up a loser.

In any case, the fight now for Bernie should be against Biden, and not against Warren who appears to be looking for any way to get her momentum back.

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After rolling back all her fauxgressive stances, she’s painted herself into a corner. Though the MSM still lump her in with Bernie, I think anyone who cares knows and that’s why her poll numbers have been tanking.

At this point, I don’t see where else she can go except to explicitly try to be the anti-Bernie. Only problem there is, I think she’s burnt too many bridges with the establishment Dems. At the very least, she doesn’t have a lane when Biden, Butigege, etc. are still around. But she’s been too willing to parrot progressive ideas, so it seems she’s got no trust among the powers that be.

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Bernie does go after Biden for his Iraq war vote

#JoeVotedForTheWar Trends After Sanders Camp Fires Back at Biden's Denials of Support for Iraq Invasion

"It is appalling that after 18 years Joe Biden still refuses to admit he was dead wrong on the Iraq War, the worst foreign policy blunder in modern American history," Sanders advisor Jeff Weaver said in a statement Saturday. "Unlike 23 of his Senate colleagues who got it right, Biden made explicitly clear that he was voting for war, and even after the war started, he boasted that he didn't regret it."

John Kerry says that no Biden did not authorize or support the Iraq war.

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@snoopydawg

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Is it just me, or does it seem that every single (D) fundraising email is written by the same person?

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when you use Queen Hillary as an advisor. As soon as I heard about this, I thought, this has Hillary's fingers all over it. Liz tries to portray being all nice and folksy but she lets her mean side shine through, when she is cornered...like a rat.

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I have not watched CNN videos since years, but happened to run into this. And I won't watch CNN again. I can't stand it.

"Sources: Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren that a woman couldn't win".
Yeah, Bernie is such a sexist, 0f course. What else is new.

She is the woman left standing ... he is the man left standing ... oh my, what do we do now? I ask for a transsexual enter the race.

So shameful for Warren. What was she thinking?

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“Trauma is not what happens to you.
Trauma is what happens inside you,
as a result of what happens to you.”
— Dr. Gabor Maté

@mimi Bernie has called bullshit on the story and Warren has said that what was discussed was private. Whether this is just Liz going for plausible deniability or a third party stirring something up, the bullshit has been shown to be bullshit.

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They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore

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@Johnny Q
not worth even discussing. I guess it's the campaign disease spreading.

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“Trauma is not what happens to you.
Trauma is what happens inside you,
as a result of what happens to you.”
— Dr. Gabor Maté

@mimi (Asian) reporter for CNN mentions "four sources" but fails to describe them further. Staffers connected with the Warren camp? All four?

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@wokkamile

From what I've gathered at this point, two of the four claimed Warren consulted with them right after the meeting (the report is unclear if they were told of Bernie saying any such thing by Warren). Another heard about it third-hand. I have no clue what the fourth individual is claiming.

Can't these blankety-blanks switch up on the anonymous whistle blower stuff once in a while?

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@wokkamile
I just think the whole campaigns are so toxic that the candidates themselves and the listeners as well get simply sick.

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“Trauma is not what happens to you.
Trauma is what happens inside you,
as a result of what happens to you.”
— Dr. Gabor Maté

@mimi to involve sharp elbows. This latest is par for the course.

Debate tomorrow. We'll see what happens when candidates are face to face, which is what most voters will know about, not the twitter wars.

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@wokkamile
have all undisclosed sources./s
Makes it so much easier to be a reporter.

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“Trauma is not what happens to you.
Trauma is what happens inside you,
as a result of what happens to you.”
— Dr. Gabor Maté

campaigned for a woman for president.
Warren, eat that.

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