UPDATED (Does this bother anyone else?) Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossieR

The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about Donald Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to the people.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-...

I am a little surprised this is in the WP.

This bit about the study originally being paid for by a mysterious Repubbie doesn’t say much. It could have been someone like Robert Kagan, who up to 2016 was a Repubbie but left then to support the Clinton Creature. Or any number of conservatives who preferred her to Trump.

But finding out that the Clinton campaign subsequently financed it is VERRRRYYY interesting. Did that involve colluding with any of them pesky RUSSIAns! RUSSIAns! RUSSIAns!???

EDIT: UPDATED To ask, anyone else think this has something to do with this RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! Bullshit??? I do, especially after seeing this:

The Big WaPo Story & Why Everyone Needs to Thank Marc Elias

I was offline for a few hours early this evening and returned to the media stream to find a new story reporting that the Steele Dossier and Fusion GPS’s research into Donald Trump and Russia was originally funded by a GOP campaign funder and then later funded by Democrats. In other words, we now know what we knew literally a year ago. Or to put it differently, Democrats agreed to fund continued research into Russia possibly owning Donald Trump after Republicans decided they didn’t care anymore.

Is this hyperbole? Not really. This is exactly what happened. And this has been known, widely reported, since before election day.

Look back at almost countless articles on the so-called Steele Dossier and you’ll find the same basic account. The project began as an opposition research project funded by Republicans during the GOP primaries when, of course, there were Republicans with an interest in finding damaging information about Donald Trump. After Trump sealed the GOP nomination, Republicans had no desire or interest in funding this research. So Democrats agreed to start footing the bill.

Here’s the key passage from tonight’s story from The Washington Post (emphasis The country owes the Democrats a debt of gratitude for keeping Steele’s research going. The FBI had apparently missed a lot of what he found.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-big-wapo-story-why-everyone-need...

WTF???

Josh Marshall always was a hack. There was no lie ever told or unconstitutional action ever committed by Hopey-Changey that he didn’t have a complete justification for. A total neo-liberal lackey. So as can be seen once again (but this time it’s the Clinton Creature and her campaign caught up in their own twisted arrogance) Marshall thinks we should get down on our knees in gratitude for for an unproven report put out by the Clinton campaign.

These people are nuts!

This freaking is cracking me up!!!

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Raggedy Ann's picture

it is going to be investigated by two House Committees:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/356885-house-committees-anno...

Let's hope something comes of it and her heinous is exiled forever. Diablo

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann @Raggedy Ann
Into the investigation of her emails but I didn’t see the Steele Dossier mentioned. This is that crazy report that includes the tale of the pee-pee tapes.

EDIT: pee-per/pee-pee

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Raggedy Ann

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=305&v=2ofeUHydHAs]

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

Hire an old Brit spook to manufacture an international smear campaign while ginning up WWIII at the same time?

That sort of op has the Bushies written all over it.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@Not Henry Kissinger  
B.F.E.E. = Bush Family Evil Empire

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From the TPM* article in the update.

@Not Henry Kissinger The project began as an opposition research project funded by Republicans during the GOP primaries when, of course, there were Republicans with an interest in finding damaging information about Donald Trump. After Trump sealed the GOP nomination, Republicans had no desire or interest in funding this research. So Democrats agreed to start footing the bill.

Basically the dossier was compiled by an as of yet unnamed Republican primary candidate (cough...Jeb!...cough) who chose not to use it in the primary, so Hillary bought the phony report and ran with it Herself in the general.

How very bipartisan of them.

Be interesting to know who tipped Hillary off that the dossier actually existed in the first place.

*Josh Marshall is indeed hacktacular.

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@Not Henry Kissinger
the Bush bunch. I could see it being a joint project even.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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@Amanda Matthews

78 Republican politicians, donors and officials who are supporting Hillary Clinton

Bush tops the list, followed by a horde of former Administration officials and other assorted neo-con hangers on.

The only thing good about Trump winning is that all of these creeps lost.

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@Not Henry Kissinger

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Not Henry Kissinger

Well, to the Clintons/DNC WaPo/Cia and the notorious '...according to the people familiar with the matter. ...' ad nauseam.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Came across this while looking up the "Bermuda cyber hack" today.

A leading offshore law firm with clients including the super-rich and international corporations has revealed it suffered a “data security incident” that may result in customers' private information being leaked.
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The cyber security incident has emerged around a year after a trove of private financial information relating to hundreds of individuals, including celebrities and high-profile public figures, known as the Panama Papers was stolen from legal firm Mossack Fonseca.

I don't usually read the Independent or the Observer, this is copy pasta from the Panama Papers story, April 2016:

The revelations of the so-called Panama Papers that are roiling the world’s political and financial elites this week include important facts about Team Clinton. This unprecedented trove of documents purloined from a shady Panama law firm that arranged tax havens, and perhaps money laundering, for the globe’s super-rich includes juicy insights into how Russia’s elite hides its ill-gotten wealth.

Almost lost among the many revelations is the fact that Russia’s biggest bank uses The Podesta Group as its lobbyist in Washington, D.C. Though hardly a household name, this firm is well known inside the Beltway, not least because its CEO is Tony Podesta, one of the best-connected Democratic machers in the country. He founded the firm in 1998 with his brother John, formerly chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, then counselor to President Barack Obama, Mr. Podesta is the very definition of a Democratic insider. Outsiders engage the Podestas and their well-connected lobbying firm to improve their image and get access to Democratic bigwigs.

Which is exactly what Sberbank, Russia’s biggest financial institution, did this spring. As reported at the end of March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. Government as a lobbyist for Sberbank, as required by law, naming three Podesta Group staffers: Tony Podesta plus Stephen Rademaker and David Adams, the last two former assistant secretaries of state. It should be noted that Tony Podesta is a big-money bundler for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign while his brother John is the chairman of that campaign, the chief architect of her plans to take the White House this November.

PU that stinks! Dead skunk in the middle of the road. Why didn't the Panama Papers shush up the D-Russia conspiracy? What a terrible MSM, making facts disappear to cover up donor connections, that is so Republican. Awful. Clinton wrote a whole book of diversions, was Sberbank mentioned? I don't know. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

good luck

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

The Gooper old guard and Trump may be scratching each other's eyes out on just about everything else, but one thing they can agree on is that Hillary's Russian pity party has gone on way too long and needs to stop.

I was wondering how long it would take them all to finally get fed up with Her antics. After the election, Trump was willing to let Her ride off into the sunset in spite of all of Her crimes. But she just won't quit.

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@Not Henry Kissinger After all, he's got a list of business crimes a mile long and the SOB admits to being a serial abuser.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

Steven D's picture

@Not Henry Kissinger She is running in 2020 even if it's from her deathbed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/10/24/hillar...

Clinton might not be a potential candidate now, but the political winds can change quickly. Recent American history is rife with presidential contenders who lost the primary or general election and then went on to become a candidate in subsequent elections. Dissatisfied with the politics of the day, lured by name recognition and preexisting loyalties, the public gave each of these candidates multiple chances at the presidency and handed several the keys to the White House.

Add to that Trump’s abysmally low approval ratings and inability to deliver on signature campaign promises (building a border wall, ending NAFTA and repealing the Affordable Care Act, to name a few), and Clinton could once more emerge as a serious challenger.

Political comebacks — even seemingly impossible ones — are actually regular occurrences in modern American politics. Richard Nixon remains the most (in)famous example. Nixon narrowly lost to John F. Kennedy in the 1960 election — only about 110,000 votes nationwide separated them — then ran for governor of California in 1962, only to lose that election. Nixon told the press after his defeat in 1962 that he was done with politics. “You don’t have Nixon to kick around anymore,” he proclaimed.

But when Lyndon Johnson trounced conservative Republican Barry Goldwater in 1964 (LBJ won all but six states), Nixon recast himself as the person best able to unite the factions within the GOP. Nixon’s chances were bolstered by a widespread opposition to the Vietnam War that fueled voters’ desire for a change in the White House. Nixon also courted Southern whites — who traditionally voted Democrat — dismayed over civil rights legislation and urban riots in the 1960s. Nixon ran for president again in 1968, capturing the Republican nomination and then the presidency.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

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@Steven D That IS the point the author was trying to make right?

Mean, untrustworthy, paranoid, and ran like cheap mascara rather than be impeached? Then Pardoned, setting a precedent that no politician will ever be held accountable?

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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@Steven D

But when Lyndon Johnson trounced conservative Republican Barry Goldwater in 1964 (LBJ won all but six states), Nixon recast himself as the person best able to unite the factions within the GOP.

What Hillary doesn't get is that she's actually Barry Goldwater in that analogy (ie. the reason the party is divided in the first place).

But hey, if it takes the Veruca Salt treatment to finally get that crazy spoiled brat to leave the factory, I will enjoy listening to her screaming as she plunges all the way down the indictment chute.

What a bad egg.

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@Not Henry Kissinger to HER after Trump she truly is delusional, I believe. She is just simply not only disliked but not trusted by anyone. Even my friends who felt they had to vote for Her did so only to counter Trump, I had told them a bit too much for any enthusiasm from voting for that. I'll have to ask some of my Repug friends, to see if they would ever vote for Her. Somehow I just doubt it. She'll lose again to Trump, for fucks sake. Maybe that's the point.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@lizzyh7

Well, doesn't all that now depend on Homeland Security, which now has taken absolute control over all electoral infrastructure?

Let's see, who now controls Homeland Security and the elections? Anyone know? And how much might published electoral results vary according to what's offered by whom?

Who in this corrupted mess can be entrusted with the essential public faith?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Steven D's picture

by pushing the Russiagate CT. So do most of the "Big Progressive Sites" that are, of course, not progressive in the least.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

@Steven D As Robert Parry and Glen Greenwald have pointed out. If one includes Pentagon budget increases in it along cyber security contracts, paying propagandists, etc, it a business/market segment measured in the billions.

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@MrWebster

nuclear weapons business in which we talk in trillions.

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@Steven D

Josh Marshall makes his living by pushing the Russiagate CT. So do most of the "Big Progressive Sites" that are, of course, not progressive in the least.

And which claim to ban the use of CT into the bargain!

Wink

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

I responded to a post on TOP, which I have to stop with the following about the Steele thing:

"Amazing that some guy can walk into Putin’s Moscow and discover in a matter of days what surely must have been absolutely one of Putin’s most guarded state secrets. You know, Putin who kills journalists at the drop of the proverbial hat, and intelligence sources there blab as if there is no tomorrow with apparently no repercussions to them. And how do we know its true? Anonymous intelligence sources. Which begs the question, how come they didn’t know if they are confirming this or confirming that. These anonymous intelligence officials can’t figure out what one lone individual could?"

In other words, Steele heard enough rumors to patch together a fictional narrative to satisfy those paying him.

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dervish's picture

@MrWebster Intentionally framing someone used to be a crime. Between this and the sloppy child molestation charges that Lisa Bloom was waving around, the DNC and the Clintons look like spiteful, criminal idiots. No one will support that sort of behavior, no matter how bad Trump is.

That's the real tragedy here, ultimately this short-sighted, selfish behavior actually helps Trump, and legitimizes him.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

EdMass's picture

Clintons.

Decades.

3rd Way.

Better Way.

Finally, exposed.

The MSM runs for cover.

Bad Clintons. Bad Clintons.

This is why we don't have nice things.

May they all rot in Hell and take all their enablers to the pit with them.

"No tears please. It's a waste of good suffering..."

"We'll tear your soul apart..."

Watch it.

Enjoy!

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

This freaking is cracking me up!!!

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