Two Time Loser Debating Running?
Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 02/25/2019 - 2:44pm
There is a clear frontrunner: Bernie Sanders. But I guarantee you Hillary will run regardless. Count on it. https://t.co/5xVuk70KZm
— Polly Tickal (@PollyTickal) February 25, 2019
"If she enters the race there needs to be a very clear, very strong reaction to the idea that we do not want her. Not then, not now, not ever. It is time for that old cow to be put out to pasture.""No, just no no no. Please be wrong... the most wrong you have ever been. She has Kamalapuppet, isn't that enough?"
"If HillaryClinton does run, she will be defeated and humiliated and personally, I would enjoy seeing that."
"Does she really want to lose to Trump twice? Actually, yes. If that’s the price for preventing an actual progressive from winning, she’s absolutely committed to giving us another term of Trump. She’s taking another one for Team Corporate".
If Biden runs she won't. If he doesn't then she will. Gee. Who didn't see this coming?
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Oops
Hit save accidentally... guess I'll place this here. AOC said that she had to form a committee to decide what her thoughts were on Venezuela. Here's what she came up with.
I mean, she's not wrong, exactly
...but she had to form a committee to figure that out? Oof.
Also, GO AWAY HILLARY.
This shit is bananas.
What a huge disappointment?
Only if one expected something more from a candidate who needed a committee to weigh in on another attempt by the U.S. to destabilize a sovereign country, swoop in with their puppet replacement, and then steal their resources.
I know I didn't.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
She sounds like Cher Horowitz on meth.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Well, if you wanted a revolution, . . .
. . . this is the way you'll get one.
Personally, I'd figured we'd see the end of the US in some form of dissolution of the whole into little bits, just a natural withering of the nation as climate change takes region after region. A domino theory that no one in power would have an idea or chance (or inclination, if the truth be known) of stopping.
But if you get HRC on election day, it probably would be rather messier. There are a lot of folks out there with specific plans for that kind of eventuality. And they aren't on the Left.
Ha! Rewriting history much?
Guess Denise doesn't remember when Hillary said that RFK was assassinated right after he became the candidate?
ah, poor bitter Denise
It must suck being a flaming asshole who embraced a candidate who was not only responsible for getting Trump into the race, but was also responsible for losing the race.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I'm stunned that she is supporting Kampala
Denise feels very strongly about how blacks have been treated and yet she thinks that Kambama the ex prosecutor who has a horrible history when it comes to how she treated blacks, other minorities and poor people. How many black women did she hassle about their kid's truancy? But my biggest problem with Kambama was she refused to release low level offenders because they were the source of cheap prison labor. The country has a history of using black prisoners for slave labor.
I suspect Denise feels strongly about
How blacks have been treated when it fits her agenda. She strikes me just as another cheap self aggrandizing poser who would sell out her own community if it meant a spot on MEET THE PRESS where she could pontificate about the poor treatment of blacks.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I am under the same impression of her.
Why she doesn’t support the better candidate of colour is a reflection of her lack of integrity. How does one go from being a true activist to a pretender at times? What I find most offensive is her more deliberate ingenuousness. Yes, she does good writing of racial history and contemporary injustice, but she herself and others would be better off if she applied it honestly. I think we might have created a world where even 'thinking' people are easily deceived.
The age of sadist politicians and oligarchs
I think Harris is more than a simple careerist. I think she is an outright sadist in line with Clinton and other members of the elites. It seems that as we have entered the age of oligarchs and their lackies, the ruling elites have as a necessary trait, outright sadism. Sorta predictable as the elites are not accountable for any illegal act or moral outrage they commit.
Oh, please.
Denise was never -- never -- as smart or as radical or as sincere in her concern for the abused as she purports to be. She supports Kamala because she knows no one else would give her the time of day (and if Kamala were to do so it would be a sign that her own star is falling). Most of the frontpagers at TOP are just looking for a way to become a player in a system that has fully and irrevocably grasped that they are not players.
We should probably leave Dee alone, let her mutter to herself. Her existence is surely punishment enough for any abuse she heaped upon others.
In this particular tweet she simply served to make Peter Daou look like the brainy, reasonable one.
Good one
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
y'know who i miss from dGross days?
maryscott o'connor.
i guess she's got herself one o' them tweeter thingamablogs ... check out the retweeted exchange between Ann Coulter and Ahmed Mohamed.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I remember her fondly from the old days
I took a look at her Twitter feed to see if I could figure her political bent now. Here's what she's tweeting or retweeting
I'm going to have to stop with this one.
Looks like another one bites the dust.
Uno mas
Ugh. Identity politics
yeah, i saw one of her related tweets about
having a great woman of color in the race, but i found only one other reference to either harris or gabbard, so i don't even know which side of that divide she's on.
oh, well.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
huh, look at this ...
Her name came up right here on c99p in May '16. I even commented. I had no recollection.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Identity politics back then too
Steven D sure wrote an excellent response to her and he absolutely nailed the hypocrisy of the two sides during the primary
.
Steven hasn't been here since September and there were a lot of names that are absent.
not the least of them being riverlover :(
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
That’s the wretched witch who told me
I had NO RIGHT to criticize Obama and if I did than so was a racist. So I told her that he was marketed to be a universal stud muffin and that’s how he was packaged, running down the beach in swim trunks and a bunch of other PR crap. (This was during the healthcare coverage hearings.) I believe I lasted a day or two after that.
What a moron. She’s so hateful but when she gets it back she loses it.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Knowing what we suspect of the Clinton machine
I can't help but wonder if this was an actual threat?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Olbermann sure thought it was
He let Hillary have it in his special comment when he talked about how many blacks had been murdered and stuff about other murders. This is from my memory so I can be off. I'll see if I can find it. Or didn't someone post it here recently? Maybe they will stop by..
Here it is in all its glory and boy is it a doozy!
[video:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ydWx9PA90q0]
I got a few things wrong in my previous comment on what happened and when.
He's now an asshole.
And so is madcow.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Keith Olbermann
O, where is that Keith Olbermann when humanity needs him?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
It's been disheartening
Watching their brains get captured, one by one, by the Borg.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
LIE!
Quoting Denise Oliver-Velez's Tweet:
What a vicious fucking lie that Tweet is! Sanders did exactly that for Hillary, selling out his own base in the process! And a "manly" Sanders would, at least, have fought on the convention floor if not run under some sort of third party!
I won't go into further detail as regards my opinion of Denise Oliver-Velez right now, as what I'd say wouldn't be up to JtC's standards for this place.......
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Yah, that was a dozy of a lie.
Over and over, polls/articles showed that Sander supporters gave more votes to Hillary than Hillary voters gave to Obama.
I think we understand how you feel:))
How they can hold on to their lie about Bernie not campaigning for Hillary is mind boggling isn't it? There are plenty of videos that would show them that he did just that. But what they are really upset about is that Bernie didn't tell his supporters to vote for her. First off no one has the right to tell people who they have to vote for and secondly, I don't remember Hillary saying that. I remember how dirty Hillary turned after it was clear that she couldn't beat Obama. Nasty is a better word.
The hillbots think that everyone one who voted for Stein owed their votes to Hillary. Apparently it's not people's choice to vote for whomever they want anymore. Lots of rules got rewritten last time didn't they?
"First off no one has the right to tell people
who they have the right to vote for ... ".
Great point!
Oh dear...
That's one name I didn't want to read. The dictionary definition of miserable. Which 'identity' is being utilized today?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I can't believe how many women
like to belittle a guy's 'manhood.'
Really women, just stop please.
dfarrah
If her heinous does run and get the nomination,
we can look forward to hearing "Bernie Would Have Won!" for another 4 years. In fact, unless Bernie, Tulsi, maybe Warren, or some unannounced progressive (Merkley?) gets the nomination, Trump wins, IMO. Such is the SOP of the IOP. (Inauthentic Opposition Party) Better another Trump term than a true progressive in office.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
I don't discount her running again.
But it would have to be under special circumstances--like the nomination going into second round and every delegate being freed to vote for whom they wanted. I would watch what Bill is saying in public appearances. I happened to watch Bill's appearance on Colbert where Bill was talking up Trump big time (and of course putting down Bernie supporters as essentially losers). Seemed strange at the time that Bill was talking like a fawning groupie--however, I had not read about the Piped Piper Strategy.
Lots of people have thought that was the plan all along
Have so many people run that no one comes out a clear winner leaving the way for the super delegates to vote in the second round or the DNC to pull a Wallace and install her at the convention.
People said they want the super delegates to go away so the DNC came up with this compromise. Nifty huh?
Keep your eye on the NYC Public Advocates race tomorrow, snoopy
Jumaane Williams, an actual Progressive, and therefore a threat to the Cuomo/DNC corporate control of NY, has been the obvious front runner since Day 1.
So, There were 31 candidates rushed into the election.
17 will be on the ballot tomorrow.
If Jumaane wins, that flood the zone tactic will not be proved effective. Maybe the DNC can re-work it and try it again.
OTOH, if Jumaane loses, the DNC and their minions will be pleased to use their strategy vigorously going forward.
NYCVG
Isn't Nomiki
Konst on that ballet? Not sure on my spelling, but wasn't she the one that dressed down the NY State Democratic Committee?
Seems to me, she wouldn't be a bad choice either.
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
The role of some frontpagers is marketing sales
Like Armando who goes on daily rant against Bernie. It is like this for the moneyed donors "see we can destroy Sanders (for a fee)."
Oh Jeebus, Hillary, GO AWAY!
Go away and enjoy your grandchildren while they're still young enough to be cute, you fool!
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
FWIW, per CNN, FSC has met with the following
candidates, within the last couple weeks,
Biden
Castro
Harris
Booker
Klobuchar
Guess she wasn't too impressed with any of them, except ol' Joe.
Blue Onyx
“I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive.”
~~Gilda Radner, Comedienne
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Her meeting with those people is in the tweet video
This is what started this conversation about her possible running. Penn says that if Biden doesn't run there's a good chance that she will. Never mind that there are other candidates already, are women and pretty much are just different versions of her. This is why people think that so many others have thrown their hats in the ring. They are place holders for Hillary and we're going to see a rerun of the primary. Bernie has stated that he will support the democratic winner because of course we need to beat Trump. Yeah, how'd that work out last time?
Banging my head on the wall!
FSC stands for???
Sorry, fairly new here, so don't know a lot of the abbreviations.
Hi, Kath - Welcome! No problem, just explained
over at Joe's EB (Evening Blues). If you don't mind, I'll just copy and paste my reply from a couple minutes ago.
Nice to meet you, Kath.
Blue Onyx
“I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive.”
~~Gilda Radner, Comedienne
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Former secretary Clinton
from when she was Secretary of State. Welcome to the blue blog, kath. Hope to see more of you here.
She's doing the Cheney thing
she wants to run the country as VP
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
There's a helluva choice for a candidate, eh?
To have the grim reaper of politics come for your candidacy and give you little wiggle room out of it if you ever want to remain in politics.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
It couldn't be said any better
now I imagine that the followers have some
variation of that grim reaper gene also.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley