Turkish troops now killing Syrian troops

A couple weeks ago I pointed out that the situation at Manbij was a powerkeg. It's only gotten more volatile since then.

Last weekend, the Kurdish YPG attempted to preempt an attempted Turkish invasion of Manbij by handing over a ring of villages around the outskirts of the city to the Syrian military, who positioned troops there. The gamble was that Turkey wouldn’t directly attack the Syrian military to try to get at the Kurds.
Which appears to have been untrue, as Syrian military officials reported heavy shelling from Turkish military forces nearby, killing at least eight Syrian troops and wounded 10 others across several villages in the area.

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Now technically, if the Syrian troops fire back and kill Turkish troops (which will eventually happen unless something changes), the United States would then be obligated under the NATO treaty to side with the Turkish forces.
But that isn't how the American forces are playing this.

Dozens of Army troops, riding Stryker armored vehicles waving American flags, drove outside the Syrian town of Manbij in a mission aimed at keeping U.S. allies Turkey and Syrian Kurds from fighting each other and focused instead on the fight against IS.

Which begs a number of questions: what if this bluff doesn't work?

But the Americans are stepping into a crowded space in northern Syria, where U.S.-backed Kurdish groups, Turkish and Russian troops, Syrian government forces and Islamic State militants are all within firing range of one another.

Other questions include: what exactly is our mission in Manbij? What if our troops get killed by Turkish troops or their jihadist allies? What if our Kurdish allies ask us for our help?
And most importantly, what about the fact that our troops are stationed nearby Syrian and Russian troops, and that ISIS is no longer in the area?

By last weekend, Russia brokered a deal with the YPG and Syria, where Syiia would ring Manbij with defensive forces, Russia embedded troops with Syria, and the US embedded troops in Manbij with the YPG. All this and Turkey set a serious powderkeg, and with Turkey already shelling Syrian troops, it’s almost certain to explode.

The situation is seriously FUBAR.

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Yemen's local al Qaeda wing appealed for help on Thursday to fend off an offensive by the armed Houthi movement in central Yemen, and accused the United States of coordinating attacks with the Iran-aligned group, according to an online statement.

Are we on Iran's side, or al-Qaeda's side?

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... Yemen's local al Qaeda wing appealed for help on Thursday to fend off an offensive by the armed Houthi movement in central Yemen, and accused the United States of coordinating attacks with the Iran-aligned group, according to an online statement.

Are we on Iran's side, or al-Qaeda's side?

Publicly or privately?

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I think the Turkish forces positioned around Manbij is to keep the SAA occupied. The real prize for the US is Raqqah. They intend to take this town before Assad can. Once there, I doubt they will leave for many years - at least not until Assad is gone and a suitable (to the US) replacement is found.

US deploys heavily armed marines to Syria
Several hundred marines sent to prepare for battle to push ISIL out of its de facto capital, Raqqa, in country's north.
Several hundred marines have deployed into Syria with artillery guns, as part of the ongoing preparation for the fight to push ISIL out of its self-declared headquarters of Raqqa, a Pentagon spokesman has confirmed.

The marines are pre-positioning howitzers to be ready to assist local Syrian forces, according to US officials.

The deployment is temporary. But it could be an indication that the White House is leaning towards giving the Pentagon greater flexibility to make routine combat decisions in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS).

Military commanders frustrated by what they considered micromanagement under the previous administration have argued for greater freedom to make daily decisions on how best to fight the enemy.

In addition, the US is preparing to send up to 1,000 troops to Kuwait to be ready to join the ISIL fight if they are needed, officials said.

Since when has US military deployments ever been temporary?

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http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/02/rand-corporations-plan-for-dicing-up.html
RAND Corporation's plan for dicing up Syria
The RAND Corporation, a leading US think tank close to the Pentagon, has published a report proposing a "Bosnian model" to resolve the Syrian conflict.

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Site of proposed 'international' (corporate) 'administration'? Right smack dab in other people's countries? Gotta love this highly organized fascist set-up for global take-over, along with the assumption that the other countries of the world will wait to be taken out individually.

If they and we are all going down anyway in radioactive flames and global dimming, there's no deterrent; what's against the lengthy list of targeted countries doing first strikes before the US does?

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fighting one another? Do they care whether that happens or not?

I hate to suggest it, seeing as how it probably constitutes treason at this point, but perhaps the US and Russia could jointly discourage the Turks from killing the Kurds.

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