Trump Proves He's Insane, So does Putin

Relative to the title, there's no other way to put it in my opinion. Others can beat around the bush, like most do these days, but screw that. Insane is what this is.

"In his Twitter post, Trump said, "The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes," but gave no further details.

It was not clear what prompted his comment. However, earlier on Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia needed to "strengthen the military potential of strategic nuclear forces."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-for-expanded-us-nucle...

Our government is a runaway mafia. There's nothing left to do but take it down before they kill us all.

[video:https://youtu.be/bE5f5_FvLic]

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Big Al's picture

Of course there will be many who will say, "ya, that's right, more nukes man, then we can have peace because no one will fuck with us".
Not even thinking or realizing we've been through this shit before.

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tapu dali's picture

blowup toys if ya can't use them? Use em or lose em, I say!

Reminds me of a very old cartoon:

The GOOD news is the Russians have finally got the hang of capitalism!
The not so good news: Crazy Ivan's Giant Plutonium Blowout Sale!

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Big Al's picture

dude, this video reminds of what Trump has said in the past.

[video:https://youtu.be/O13kaQAg5KE]

I remember a spokesperson of his saying the same thing during the campaign. There are plenty who feel exactly that way and the Pentagon now has a first strike policy and plenty of strategic plans that include the use of nukes.

The Russians can't top our crazy.

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_6OJZHhqg width:420 height:315]

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With their hearts they turned to each others heart for refuge
In troubled years that came before the deluge
*Jackson Browne, 1974, Before the Deluge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU

snoopydawg's picture

and think that they can use them on Russia and the world will survive?
Obama and NATO are surrounding Russia and putting missle defense shields in some of those countries and have been doing this for over a year or more.
Don't they realize that if they use those mini nukes on Russia then Russia can still strike back from their other bases and submarines but will use the big ones.
That they are even thinking of using any type of nuclear weapons is the definition of insanity.
The people in the European nations that are involved with these actions are going to be the ones who will be destroyed first.
The US' roll of global hegemony is bringing us to this point and it's not doing this to protect our country or anyone else's, it's because the corporations and the banks want to make more money.
We aren't even trying to remove Assad from office because he's a threat to his people, but so that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other countries can build pipelines after he told them that they couldn't.
And of course for Israel so that they can be the only superpower in the Middle East.
Millions of people have been killed for greed and resources.
And while people are afraid of what Trump MIGHT DO they have been silent about the things that OBAMA HAS DONE
Why wasn't anyone asking him why he thinks that we need to spend $1 trillion on upgrading our nuclear weapons?
There's only one reason I can think of for doing that. It's because they are planning to use them.
Okay kids don't forget your duck and cover lessons.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

NCTim's picture

Our government is a runaway mafia.

The mafia has a honor code. I agree with the insane part. Comes from always getting your way and viewing other people as lesser/expendable.

We should be chipping away at the enablers. When do police and military figure out that they are the 1% hired help? F' the boot lickers too.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

Big Al's picture

Like a famous Serf once said, "Mongo only pawn in game of life",

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skod's picture

And now I'm starting to see that a branch of the deplorables has decided to become atomic weapon deniers: I had several responses to a nuclear-war-should-be-avoided post I made on Facebook that came from completely unhinged imbeciles that claimed that nuclear weapons do not exist and have never really existed, using the usual tactics of misspellings, all-caps, and lots of exclamation points. They claim the whole nuke thing is just another Government Conspiracy.

Really.

Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.

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ggersh's picture

does anyone hear the call of dissent emanating from the minority party?

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

His overseeing of the Dept of Energy is particularly appalling as is his wasting money on more nukes.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

ggersh's picture

governed as dubya on roids.

He like all the members of his small club before him
continued on the path of destruction to the american dream.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

How quickly Obama's declaration to spend $1 trillion to update and upgrade the US nuclear arsenal was forgotten in the current coverage of the nuclear insanity race!

In 2009, Barry declared:

The existence of thousands of nuclear weapons is the most dangerous legacy of the Cold War. No nuclear war was fought between the United States and the Soviet Union, but generations lived with the knowledge that their world could be erased in a single flash of light.... I state clearly and with conviction America's commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons....If we are serious about stopping the spread of these weapons, then we should put an end to the dedicated production of weapons-grade materials that create them.

By January 2016, Barry must have gotten the speech about How Things Are [see attached video]. Even the normally war-friendly Boston Globe had this to say:

President Obama has proposed a frighteningly wrongheaded plan to “modernize” our nuclear arsenal at the unfathomable cost of about $1 trillion over the next 30 years. Terror will never reach even 1 percent of our population. Nuclear “modernization” increases the prospect of true devastation....Obama’s proposed “modernization” increases our vulnerability, not our security. The first and most obvious reason is that it will certainly lead other countries to seek equivalent arsenals of their own. It is especially upsetting to Russia, which already feels under increasing American threat...China would surely match that escalation. If it does so, India will follow. Then Pakistan will jump into the race. It is a recipe for disaster.

So let's not leave Barry off the list of idiots with way too much power and no adult oversight. That asshole has done plenty of damage to America without risking nuclear annihilation.

edited for getting ahead of myself

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

edg's picture

He tweeted "The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability". There are at least two ways to interpret that statement. The US can expand its capability by acquiring more weapons. Or the US can expand its capability by more effectively deploying existing weapons. Of course Democrats and the MSM immediately latched onto the first interpretation.

Likewise, Putin said "We are stronger now than any potential aggressor", which Democrats and the MSM immediately took to mean he was boasting that Russia was stronger than the US. What he meant, and what should be clear from his remarks, is that he wasn't including the US on the list of potential aggressors. Later reporting by the MSM parsed out the word "potential" and turned the statement into "We are stronger than any aggressor", thus making it seem he was threatening the US.

Fake news at its finest.

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wendy davis's picture

Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon’, revealnews.org

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Big Al's picture

I bet they're real proud of themselves for developing such a weapon.
Hi Wendy and thanks for that link. More insanity.

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CB's picture

soundbites out of context.

If you want to hear what Putin actually says, Innessa S produces English subtitles for YouTube videos of his remarks.

Here's what you get if you rely solely on western media for information on Russia:

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divineorder's picture

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

doingbusinessas's picture

He reacts to a FAKE NEWS article stating that Israel will invade Pakistan. Right, and his reaction was he would nuke them.
HuffingtonPost
Somebody is pulling some strings somewhere to start a nuke war.

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