So now is the time to think about
Submitted by mimi on Sat, 02/17/2018 - 2:20am
where the evil Russians and Chinese or any other OPOL powers would hit the US with their nukes first, right?
I am reading through the EB and concluded I have to ask the community the following:
If you were a Russian or a Korean or a Chinese OR ANY OF THOSE EVIL COUNTRIES, how would you attack the US with nukes? Which target would you choose? What do you bomb? Nuclear missile facilities on the mainland or on Hawaii? Or some secret thingy that contains the heart of all the internet network servers? How do you bomb with a nuke a cyber facility? Or do you bomb satellites?
Confusing world for mimi littles. I expect answers that will put me to sleep safely and induce sweet dreams, please. I use Round-up against nightmares. Don't make me do that.
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New York City
So it would take out most of the media outlets. /snark
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The only evil country you need to worry about
is the only country that has ever dropped nuclear bombs on a civilian population centers, the United States of America.
Sweet dreams!
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now you make me use round-up, can't have sweet dreams
with that answer.
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I don't see it happening
I don't see any of those countries initiating a nuclear attack on the US.
Despite Jong-Un's personal idiosyncrasies, I don't think North Korea really wants to engage in a nuclear war (or any other kind of war) with anyone.
China plans to be a global power, but I believe they're aiming to achieve it via the economic and technological realms, in partnership with other countries, not via military imperialist action.
I also think they're smart enough not to shoot off their own foot. China has a lot of financial and business interests in the US. Heck, the US of A is up to its eyeballs in debt to the Chinese. A massive amount of manufacturing and service sector work is outsourced to China by American companies.
I guess the obvious targets on the West Coast would be San Francisco and Seattle: international financial, business, and technology centers, and major Internet hubs in the US. But why would China want to harm their own interests that way?
Russia? Nyet. I'm not sure they believe they could "win" a nuclear war against the US, and I don't think they're crazy enough to try.
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Russians know more about the effects of radiation
than we do, or than anyone else except the Japanese. They've had two HUGE nuclear accidents in their own territory, one all the way back in 1957 (and you can just bet Nikita Khrushchev had those reports to sweat over during the Cuban Missile Crisis, while US leaders were blissfully clueless).
They're still studying the effects of the 1957 Kyshtym disaster, and they are enough to make any sane person think twice and three times.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Not quite.
China actually only holds 8 percent of 'Murica's public debts according to the CBO. That's actually been the case for many years, so to say we're in debt up to our eyeballs with China is at best an exaggeration and a bald faced lie at worst. RWNJs and Libert-Aryans love pushing that shit 'til the cows come home but it just doesn't work in reality.
To put it another way, if we are 20 trillion in debt as they say, then China only holds roughly 1.6 trillion. Keep this in mind when people talk about that.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
heh, this is supposed a funny mini mimi thingy and who
cares about a couple of percentages more or less of US debt to China. Bald faced lies is what we live off, so only a fool would take them face value. And aside of that, people can't count, especially not the zeros. Billions, trillions, percentages ... all FUBAR.
You do know that I have no clue? Right? I just try to induce some funny comments about all things serious.
SMILE. That's what Americans always tell me in the elevators when they see me.
Nothing for Ungood. As some Germans would say in Germlish.
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If it wasn't for China,
'Merkins would now be walking barefoot and naked, cooking with a stick over a wood fire, washing their clothes in a creek and taking a crap in the woods. BTW, what in hell DOES America make anymore (other than greenbacks, war, bombs, Twitter, Facebook and more war)?
Can't argue that point.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Propaganda! Universal spying! Electoral 'adjustments'!
Corporate overlords for other lands!
Neolib interpretations of important terms to confuse the issues!
Damn, I don't have all day for listing examples, but America under The Psychopaths that Be still produces a lot, it's just usually stuff that nobody else wants...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
And if China holds
"only" 8% or so, it's a safe bet that the majority of 'murica's "$20 Trillion Debt" is held right here in the U.S. of A. by 'murica's Billionaire Club.
So when They say, "we own this joint" They ain't lying.
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China-held debt
Approximately 1/3 of the US Treasury debt is held by foreign countries. Of that amount, around 1/5 is held by the Chinese. (Interestingly, Japan holds almost as much, making the combined total held by China and Japan almost 40% of the foreign-held US debt.) China has increased its US debt holdings in recent years.
Perhaps not "eyeball" level, but not insignificant either, for any of the players. My point stands, with regard to Mimi's question about potential nuclear strikes on the US. China has made a relatively significant financial investment in the US, which I don't believe China would want to risk by blasting San Francisco off the map.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
yep, exactly.
Caitlin practically has her Negan Sh!ttin' Pants™ on worried about incoming.
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Putin has said two things about another major world war
One, there will be no winner.
Two, it won't be fought on Russian soil.
thx, dear, that great answer puts me back to sleep and feel safe
basically no one will start a nuclear war other than those nervous wrecks who mix up the buttons.
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I don't have any nukes.
I used my last one on New Years Eve. It was a dud. I guess that's good.
lol, I got your attention, OPOL imho you are a very kind man
but not a powerful one... Thank God, if you were, I wouldn't trust you.
All the power to the nuke duds.
So nice to see you here again. Do you remember you once told me you love me? I love you too.
Come by more often. This place is gathering too many Russian nuts and they are heavy and hard to digest.
I remember you once wrote a sincerely serious essay about how and what to eat to make the digestive tracts more happy. We need your wisdom about that again. In earnest.
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@mimi I remember. Still do.
yep, agree. n/t
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Russia and China don't have to do a damn thing to destroy the US
US political leadership is doing it for them. The more the government puts into
defenseoffense spending, the less there is for repairing/improving infrastructure, health care or education. America used to be the world's #1 country in all the things that made America "great" 50 years ago. Now it doesn't rank in the top ten in any one of them. The country has even slipped in military power if one considers "bang for the buck". The ONLY thing the country excels in is questionable financial products that will eventually bring the country (and possibly the world) to it's knees.The most important thing the Russians and Chinese can do at this time is to isolate themselves as much as possible from the coming US financial clusterfuck by constructing alternative systems.
not that it matters, but
Russia has targeted every population center with more than 25,000 people in the US. It's called Mutual Assured Destruction, remember? No sense in targeting missile silos, we can - and will - launch before they can get to them. And the same applies for us.That's why Hillary was so terrifying, she knew what would happen but talked shit anyway and meant it.
On to Biden since 1973
Maps of North Korea targets and general US Targets
It is a Washington Post article - the analysis discusses the potential danger to US military targets within reach of North Korea. No discussion of local population. (The current popular phrase collateral damage did not appear to be a concern.)
This is a series of maps and s discussion for the lower 48 states on nuclear targets and fallout projections.
This is just a fascinating site with real time satellite data of global wind, temp or particulate patterns at different atmospheric levels.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Napoleon Bonaparte, who knew a thing or two about conflict,
once said --
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
I presume that Messrs. Putin and Jinping are wise enough to know this; consequently, it is necessary for them only to make the popcorn, stand back, and watch - nothing either could do would be as pointedly effective as the machinations of the plutocracy, aided by the Trump administration and its baying Repugnant acolytes.
This observation tends to confirm the assertion that all the RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA!!! hype is a lot of smoke & mirrors - no need for Putin to so much as crook his little finger.
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.