A Recommendation

I think there may be more than a few people here who would find this interview between Rich Roll and Andrew Huberman interesting and thought-provoking. It’s long, but you can get a sense of the discussion from these last 9 minutes - 1:49.50 - 158.24.

I found it a very relevant discussion between two tuned-in, experienced and accomplished people. It's largely about the value of learning to access tools of the self and the brain that neuroscience is identifying/affirming, as valuable for controlling and balancing our external and internal states; for not only the benefit of ourselves but the world as it is.

[video:https://youtu.be/SwQhKFMxmDY]

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mimi's picture

I think Huberman said that we feel good about choosing to trigger our frustration and anger spot in the brain and that we should learn to control that, ie paraphrased to 'to calm down' or control our autonomous nervous system's behavior. Need to listen through it again to find the exact TC. I might not have understood this correctly.

The other sentence which Huberman mentioned is that we feel good, when others confirm our own beliefs or opinions about something, before your own opinions were even expressed. (TC 1:53)

Don't know if I got that right. But spontaneously I am reminded of my own reactions, for example, when I had watched or read an article or video and thought it a was good and then later I find the same posted in Joe's EB. Then I feel good about myself. Heh, even Joe thought it was good and posted it. Ha. Bingo. Smile

Oh, and about learning to control our 'feels-so-good to choose the trigger button four our frustration and anger spot in the brain' I am reminded as well of some incidence I experienced. Huberman gave the advise that we 'should learn to control that', which could be paraphrased as to 'to calm down' or control our autonomous behavior... I said this once to someone in a comment without thinking much about it, as I thought it was a harmless kind of advice, and got a very furious response via the pm system, which suprised me. I mostly am unaware when I anger someone with my comments. It is a problem for me. I like to understand what it was in my wording and why it caused fury or anger in someone else. And like to discuss that in public, not in the pm system.

Conclusion: EB is a goody, pm is a problem. Mami mimi's basic science research results.

When I have more brain strength and will power I might listen to the whole thing again.
So, we do like to be mean? Really? Apparently, sez the science. Oh, shit. What a mess.

Thanks Janis B for your recommendation. It's a good one, which is also a challenge to meet.

Peace and Thank You.

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janis b's picture

@mimi

I’m glad you enjoyed what you saw and heard. It certainly did make you question ; ).

Huberman, in an earlier part of the interview, addresses quite thoroughly the very human response one feels in terms of feeling validated by others. It is a wonderful feeling, which also poses the question, "how do we do it for ourselves?"

It's Springtime here and the birds are singing. Because it is Springtime the weather is very changeable, but quite enlivening.

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Lookout's picture

I feature a couple of pieces today which look at finding opportunity in this chaos. So much of life is how we look at it. Hope all is well with you and yours.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

I will look at those links this weekend. Your outlook and your screen name are harmonious ; ).

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studentofearth's picture

Not an unworthy goal. They did an excellent job of explaining the biological science behind the idea.

Working with people and animals over the years I have noticed at time of physical or mental stress they have a harder time staying call and make nonreactive rational decision. Spent a lot of time training different animals for competition to stay calm. One secret taught to me by an experienced handler was to learn to increase my ability of being be calm and nonreactive to various stimuli, and keep my mind clear. Disorder can be contagious and animals and people around us can mirror back our internal feelings.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth

I can imagine the mutual satisfaction between you and the animals.

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Anja Geitz's picture

Absolutely fascinating. Ties in with the science behind meditating as well. It’s a skill I have used quite effectively and wrote about here a year ago. Bookmarking this podcast in my favorites.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

I have, and will probably continue to go back and listen to parts. It's such an interesting discussion and subject between two very interesting and experienced people.

You're probably being strongly challenged lately to find calm in the relentlessness of the fire. Be well.

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@janis b

You're probably being strongly challenged lately to find calm in the relentlessness of the fire.

Had to use that technique this morning when I could almost hear that part of my brain go down the rabbit hole. But I chanted vigorously for 30 minutes, lit up the part of my brain that was needed and prevented said rabbit hole excursion.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

'Kia Kaha' - Stay Strong.

Cheers and all the best for you and every one.

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Will check this out tomorrow. Thanks for thinking of us, this looks like something many of us can appreciate.

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@randtntx

I hope you enjoy it, as I think you would.

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