@Big Al
been all aboard the War on Terra. Because it means killing brown people. Whom he Hates more than sharks.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufeliruQBDg]

#2.2 And importantly, Trump was always fully on board with the fake war OF terror which has been used to justify the great military buildup (until the official unveiling of the "great power competition", and all the police state fascism we have today.
Obviously a lot of people, particularly those accusing the deep state for why Trump has "changed", didn't want to see it.

@FuturePassed @FuturePassed

confused by your comment,

Selectively picking out the most violent activities of US forces devoid of context is neither history nor honest.

Are you saying that acknowledging the atrocity of the effects of atomic bombs on civilians in Japan is ignoring the context of outrage against Japanese soldiers?

I'm having trouble expressing what I mean here, so I'm not criticizing you for being unclear, but I feel you are saying that all the flesh melting and suffering applied to Japanese civilians was understandable given the atrocities committed by the Japanese military, similar to the fire storms inflicted on German cities and the civilians incinerated there. The civilians deserved it because their military dictatorship was so inhuman.

This is a key difference of perspective, I think, between pacifists and people who think war is unfortunately necessary. But in the case of atomic weaponry, it's not that someone just got so outraged at "Japan," meaning its military, that they grabbed whatever big bomb was available and flung it at "Japan." No. The atomic bomb was the result of longterm research and development and was an industrial product designed for the incineration of cities, not armies.

#2.3
the Japanese didn't make a film of the Rape of Nanking and the evacuation of Manilla for ballance. In Nanking in addition to the murder of between 200,000 and 300,000 unarmed people, Japanese soldiers systematically gang raped 20,000 women and girls. Typically they were murdered after the rapes, often by thrusting bamboo staves through their vaginas into their intestines. It wasn't a quick death.

During the evacuation of Manilla in face of advancing American troops, in addition to murdering thousands of men and raping and murdering thousands of women, Japanese troops added the practice of scooping the eyeballs out of babies and smearing them on walls and buildings.

And the current leader of Japan is on record as insisting that Korean teenagers who were forced to become "comfort women" servicing the sexual needs of Japanese troops eagerly volunteered because of the higher rations they would receive.

Selectively picking out the most violent activities of US forces devoid of context is neither history nor honest.

@FuturePassed

The following illustrates in horrific fashion how societies are pathologized by psychopathic propagandists, as has been so particularly noticeable for so long in the US, due to long-running Nazi/psychopath-type propaganda now being globally imposed.

In America, much of such propaganda has, as we know, also long been used to divide groups of citizens based upon virtually any existing difference, ranging from those of class, skin colour/accents/lineage through (now lessening) gender/sexual preference to designated-as-political viewpoints to the point where many apparently think it 'natural' among humans that others demonstrating various of such differences should be feared/hated.

Someone (can't recall who?) posted fairly recently on here about comments read on other sites where apparent divide-and-conquer propaganda/effects achieved through 'othering' involved comments saying that California liberals - their fellow Americans - should be killed/bombed? for their opinions... this has long been the case with such as seen in pathological internet and other commentary regarding officially 'acceptable/condoned' police abuses and outright murders of 'othered' US citizens happening to have darker skin. This 'kill the liberals' commentary may or may not have been posted by propaganda trolls, as may be much of the rest, but either way, it's a salutary warning and one of many too long overlooked.

https://medium.com/@BlairImani/propaganda-dehumanization-and-world-war-i...

Blair Imani
I care about people and I want to change the world • Civic Action & Campaign Lead @dosomething • Founder @equalityforHER • blair@blairimani.com • she/her
Nov 18, 2017
Propaganda, Dehumanization, and World War II

Written June 2015 — The consequences of dehumanization and the emphasis upon nationalist supremacy created a war in which killing was a moral obligation.

...During World War II, propaganda accelerated the construction of racial pride and nationalist identities for the Allied and Axis powers. As populations became emboldened by the assertion of their own superiority they became complicit in the dehumanization of those that fell outside of their constructed identities. As a result of racist propaganda and dehumanization World War II became a war bereft of humanity. John W. Dower’s book, War Without Mercy: Race and Power in the Pacific, discusses the role of propaganda in the intensification of poisonous myths of racial and national supremacy. Through the indoctrination of those myths whole nations willingly accepted participation in the atrocities against humanity that were committed between 1939 and 1945. By deconstructing the information within War Without Mercy a better understanding of the way in which racist propaganda affected military strategies in America and Japan can be achieved. ...

...George C. Marshall, the United States Army Chief of Staff enlisted Hollywood filmmakers to sway popular opinion in favor of a war against Japan. The result was seven films directed by Frank Capra titled, Why We Fight. In one of the seven films, Know Your Enemy: Japan, Capra effectively constructed the notion that America was “fundamentally peaceful, democratic, and rational” while Japan was “a thoroughly militaristic, repressive, irrational nation” (Dower, 66). As a result of Capra’s propaganda Americans soldiers could kill Japanese soldiers and civilians without the guilt of moral compromise because Japanese people were no longer afforded humanity. This juxtaposition even had harmful implications in the domestic policies of the United States. U.S. civilians had no qualms about the policy of placing Japanese Americans in internment camps. These actions were not viewed as the denial of basic human rights, but it was instead viewed as a necessary measure to ensure the safety of ‘real Americans’ from the ‘monolith of evil’ that people of Japanese ancestry came to represent. Through these harmful ideologies American military strategy could exert morally reprehensible actions against Japan, such as the mass murder of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, with the enthusiastic support of American civilians. ...

...As racial stereotypes focused on preserving the internal purity of the nation, the very civilians that comprised the nation sacrificed themselves rather than become victims of the American forces. Destruction of the self was inconsequential if it facilitated greater destruction of the other.

The consequences of dehumanization and the emphasis upon nationalist supremacy created a war in which killing was a moral obligation. This phenomenon is best described by Browning in his discussion about the massacre of Jewish people by Nazi forces:

What is clear is that the men’s concern for their standing in the eyes of their comrades was not matched by any sense of human ties with their victims. The Jews stood outside their circle of human obligation and responsibility. Such a polarization between “us” and “them,” between one’s comrades and the enemy, is of course standard in war (Browning).

The failure to recognize those outside of one’s own racial and national identity sits at the heart of the merciless cruelty and brutality seen during WWII. In War Without Mercy, Dower reveals the ways in which brutality became a product of government-sponsored propaganda. In both the United States and Japan, racist stereotypes and mythological constructs of supremacy enforced by propaganda infiltrated military and civilian populations. At home and abroad for both nations, the consequences were devastating. In the United States, the public took no issue with the forced imprisonment of thousands of Japanese-Americans. Outside of the United States, Americans enthusiastically supported the slaughter and defilement of Japanese civilians and military personnel. The twisted consequences of this savage brutality included the bombing of innocents, the dismemberment of corpses, and the collection of body parts from dead Japanese soldiers. ...

We know much of American society is there already, 'exceptionally' so, since the horrendously successful, illicitly human-rights-deleting 9/11 psy-ops that started off this final phase. And it ain't their fault - they're unwitting, mind-twisted victims of legions of experts 'normalizing' their own murderously suicidal psychopathy among the Disposables currently still useful in this area.

Nor was this the fault of the Japanese or German people.

We must always try to be aware of what subversive influences are trying to do to us, to our societies and our world, because we cannot hope to survive the effects of this brainwashing into support of universally applied pathology, any more than can the concepts of democracy, justice and civilization. Nor could we want to.

#2.3
the Japanese didn't make a film of the Rape of Nanking and the evacuation of Manilla for ballance. In Nanking in addition to the murder of between 200,000 and 300,000 unarmed people, Japanese soldiers systematically gang raped 20,000 women and girls. Typically they were murdered after the rapes, often by thrusting bamboo staves through their vaginas into their intestines. It wasn't a quick death.

During the evacuation of Manilla in face of advancing American troops, in addition to murdering thousands of men and raping and murdering thousands of women, Japanese troops added the practice of scooping the eyeballs out of babies and smearing them on walls and buildings.

And the current leader of Japan is on record as insisting that Korean teenagers who were forced to become "comfort women" servicing the sexual needs of Japanese troops eagerly volunteered because of the higher rations they would receive.

Selectively picking out the most violent activities of US forces devoid of context is neither history nor honest.