OurRevolution is a Hillary front
As was discussed here sometime ago, it was revealed by Wikileaks that Hillary's backers planned to create an astroturf movement, a phony grassroots movement intended to make people feel like they were support progressive causes but in actuality were supporting The Evil Queen herself.
Well here's the latest email I got from them:
Police stormed the Native encampment in the path of the Dakota Access pipeline and arrested more than 100 people trying to stop this pipeline's threat to water sources and climate change. There's only one person who has the power to stop this pipeline from being built: Hillary Clinton. If she says she totally opposes the pipeline, it won't be built.
Add your name to our petition calling on Hillary Clinton to oppose the Dakota Access pipeline.
SIGN THE PETITION TO HILLARY CLINTON
Chris,
The Dakota Access pipeline would carry some of the dirtiest oil on the planet across four states, putting at risk farms, native land, critical water sources, and our fight against climate change.
Tens of thousands of members of Our Revolution have stood up to oppose the construction of the pipeline, and you've helped contribute tens of thousands of dollars to the Standing Rock Sioux tribe leading the fight against the pipeline in North Dakota.
But this week things took a turn for the worse. Police armed in military gear stormed the occupation, arresting more than 100 Native activists, journalists, and others there in solidarity, and destroyed the Native encampment in the path of the pipeline.
This is an unacceptable escalation with the explicit goal of allowing a corporation to profit off of the continued destruction of our planet. And so we must escalate as well.
There is one person who will have the power to stop the Dakota Access Pipeline: Secretary Hillary Clinton. If she is to be our next president, she will have the power to stop the pipeline. And our best opportunity to get her to oppose it is before the election.
Please add your name to our petition calling on Hillary Clinton to say she opposes the Dakota Access pipeline, and asking her to cancel its construction if she is the next president.
Native American youth held an action in the lobby of Secretary Clinton's campaign headquarters asking her to oppose the pipeline. They delivered a letter from the tribes involved, and the response from Secretary Clinton's campaign was thoroughly disappointing.
Clinton's campaign said:
"We received a letter today from representatives of the tribes protesting the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline. From the beginning of this campaign, Secretary Clinton has been clear that she thinks all voices should be heard and all views considered in federal infrastructure projects. Now, all of the parties involved—including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes—need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest. As that happens, it's important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators' rights to protest peacefully, and workers' rights to do their jobs safely."
This is the complete wrong way to consider what's happening with this pipeline. The pipeline would carry millions of gallons of fracked oil. It threatens to poison the Standing Rock Sioux's source of water. It would threaten farmers' livelihood. It is a huge threat to climate change.The only path forward should be cancelling the pipeline. Period.
We think that if hundreds of thousands of people call on Hillary Clinton to oppose the pipeline as soon as possible, we can secure a commitment to have the pipeline canceled if she's president. But our best chance is before the election. That's why it is so important to take action now.
The window is closing for us to get Hillary Clinton to oppose the Dakota Access pipeline. Add your name to our petition now asking her to promise to cancel the pipeline, and we'll deliver your signature to her campaign.
We can stop this pipeline if all of us stand together. Thank you for supporting Native tribes, farmers, and everyone trying to save our planet.
In solidarity,
Shannon Jackson
Our RevolutionSIGN THE PETITION TO HILLARY CLINTON
Wait a second... Why is Hillary the only person that can stop it? Don't we have a president right now? Where is Obama on all of this? Even if Hillary wins, she won't be sworn in until mid-January.
And this petition they're starting... Hillary has already made her opinion clear. She wants the protesters to be able to keep their impotent protest going, while the pipeline work continues.
We received a letter today from representatives of the tribes protesting the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline. From the beginning of this campaign, Secretary Clinton has been clear that she thinks all voices should be heard and all views considered in federal infrastructure projects. Now, all of the parties involved—including the federal government, the pipeline company and contractors, the state of North Dakota, and the tribes—need to find a path forward that serves the broadest public interest. As that happens, it’s important that on the ground in North Dakota, everyone respects demonstrators’ rights to protest peacefully, and workers’ rights to do their jobs safely.
To me anyway, it seems that OurRevolution is a scam designed to part progressives from their money while maintaining the charade that somehow people will magically be able to "hold her feet to the fire" after she's elected.
What a joke.
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Reply and ask them that.
This inquiring mind wants to know!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I replied
I replied. I replied about it in the field they provide on the Unsubscribe page.
I'm sure I will get a prompt response.
The Hillary revolution is triangulation
You can protest the pipeline whilst they build it.
The premise that the people will ever be able to bend Hillary
to do their bidding is preposterous. She will have no reason whatsoever to listen to any but those who own or run the corporations that own and run the government once she has secured her 'precious' -the Presidency of the United States of America, the nuclear launch codes and the title of Commander in Chief.
My blood runs cold at the thought.....
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
The $Hill responds to money --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
She DOES respond to money. If you wave it front of her
face and tell her to "speak" this is the response.
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Ain't I'm a dog!
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Don't worry
it'll run cold for only about 9 months,. According to Reuters that's how long it will take for the troops to deploy to Poland.
On to Biden since 1973
Oh my, it's just theater
Our Revolution isn't designed to hold her accountable or to push her to the left. It was designed to occupy the position of the one who holds her accountable. No need to become active against Hillary anymore - Our Revolution is on it. They will go through the motions of pushing her left. It's like when the Daily Beast prints a negative story about Hillary, it's all been approved and vetted and sterilized and by the time it manifests it's just a token.
“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”
Well said
n/t
You make a good case, BF.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
You do know OurRevolution was supposed to be the
continuation of Sanders' "political revolution"? It's a Dem party astroturf operation not just Clinton's. It was designed primarily to continue Sanders' effort to sheepdog people into the Dem party and to keep the so called revolution within accepted parameters.
yep. n/t
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I unsubscribed from OR email with one word: BETRAYAL N/T
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
The Democratic Party is a Hillary front.
A pox on them all.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Hillary's proposal . . .
sounds like she's advocating one of those fenced in areas for protesters like she had set up at the DNC.
Yep. Built like a cattle feedlot too.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
"Don't we have a president right now?" The question kind
of answers itself: No, We The People do not have a president. Citi has a president; Kissinger, et alia have a president; global capital has a president, etc. Do the Iraqi people have a president? Do the Hondurans?
"Oh the stains, the stains"...Gregory Corso
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
What a joke! A CRUEL joke!
A cruel joke at that!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
No wonder Hillary can't walk:
All those people holding her feet to the fire.
Dang Winterinres!
You solved the mystery..the poor lady had burned feet. Take that Alligator Ed!
I now think she was drunk
So much has come out about her being hammered by midmorning, with Podesta begging people to wake her up and sober her up. She missed a lot of briefings as SoS sleeping it off. Maybe if she gets as far as the oath of office we'll get lucky and she'll choke on her own vomit while the world watches. That'd be nice.
That would almost be worth watching it.
But there will be plenty of re-plays of it, if she does, so I will just wait for them instead.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Ouch!
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Clinton's Global Shale Initiative
Linda, Linda, Linda
As you know, Hillary also worked closely with the other departments of the Obama administration during her time as SOS giving 45 speeches about how the TPP was the gold standard of trade agreements.
But after she left the state department she has now decided that she opposes it "as it is written now". Her supporters tell me that if Obama doesn't get it passed before he leaves office, then she won't pass it if she becomes president.
There is a good chance that she has had a change of mind on how fracking is no longer safe and will prevent fracking companies from polluting out lands and water.
Ouch! A monkey just flew out of my.......
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
If Obama doesn't get
this signed, sealed and delivered over the next 3, 4 months (including HRC's term), he won't be on anybody's A List for speechifying gigs.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Is It Really "Our Revolution"?
Good article on this subject that appeared on SocialistWorker.org a couple of months ago. The author attended the kickoff meeting for Our Revolution in New Orleans and came away highly skeptical and unimpressed. He described it as a top heavy organization in which the rank and file is given little voice.
Yep, sounds real progressive all right. And thank God we're being protected from those elements on the left that are "aggressive and divisive." In the rough and tumble world of politics, docile and accommodating is always so much more effective. Thanks, Bernie!
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"aggressive and divisive"
I think I'll get me a T-shirt or 3 with that logo on it!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Reprising my impressions of 1st Our Revolution meeting 8/24/16
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Why do you think that it was
Why do you think that it was registered in a manner which let Bernie walk away from it without being silenced?
Wouldn't you expect actual progressives to see through the facade of anything of this nature?
Sometimes asymmetrical warfare dictates that the smaller defending party must walk away from battles in order to survive to win the war.
People still don't seem to get what we're fighting; it's just too much of an enormity for the mind to encompass easily.
The Germans had the same problem when this began in their democracy, but we have the advantage of having seen the same thing occur previously so that we can recognize the same signs as they appear.
Can we, unlike the Clintons, learn from previous mistakes? Or is life on the planet doomed?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Don't blame Bernie.
I live in NY-21 where the retired seat of a lukewarm (some would say Blue Dog, but I wouldn't) Dem was filled by a KochBros/ Turdblossum-funded Republicon. Mostly becuz we were outspent, but also becuz our Dem candidate wasn't in it to win it.
A similar scenario this year with, like you say, Repub vs. Repub, with a Green on the side. Truth be told my views are more in line wirth the Green candidate, Annette's nephew, Matt Funicello, but he has no chance of winning in this red state district.
But, here's the thing... how does an out-of-state Repub get on the Dem party line for a House seat in NY State? How does the state Dem party allow that? And, granted, we allowed HRC to carpetbag a Senate seat here, but that's not the same as a local House seat. Please toss $3 to Teachout in NY-19. She's a true prog in a close race and could use $3. Thanks!
Wonder how Dems are getting their asses handed to them Down Ballot? Becuz we don't run any Dems.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I unsubscribed the first email.
I won't lay the blame for the astro turf on Bernie.
My "go to" for assholishness is the Democratic Party.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Astroturf! I figured.
Bernie is persona non grata to me now, but I'd gladly vote for Jane.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Why?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Jeff Weaver
I've had the feeling all along that Weaver was a plant from the Clinton organisation, to stop the real progressives.
It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan
Our Revolution isn't a Hillary front
It's just your standard liberal attempt at "revolution," which makes it impotent. Hillary, on the other hand, is a co-optation machine, and it's to be expected that she'll blindside Our Revolution like an eighteen-wheeler would blindside a stray opossum.
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
What kind of a name is "Our Revolution"? Sounds like Romper
Room or pat-on-the-head, color-inside-the-lines stuff. Not exactly revolutionary.
I've said before that, regardless of where it goes, Tim Canova's new organization, launched with a swipe at Our Revolution, has a much better name: Progress for All.
Something smelled off about OR from the start. It may do some good, but it sure looks like a co-opting project. I'm staying on the sidelines with that one; Movement for the 99% and Brand New Congress look more promising to me. Where they all go remains to be seen, of course.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Our Revolution" is not Bernie's
he checked out early. "Oh, and by the way, I won't be there with you because I'm going to campaign for Hillary and I'm turning the organization over to the hack I hired".
I don't think it's necessarily a Hillary Front
But I started side-eying it when I got an email about what/who to support on the ballot in my state and it left out the measure to legalize marijuana.
Well, then, you're f*cked
Because Trump sure as hell won't stop DAPL.
For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still.
John Maynard Keynes, 1930
you are correct, we are $%^ed
so, given a choice between two candidates who will be awful I've voted for a better alternative even though I know she won't win. But I would rather have my vote counted as opposed to not voting at all.
Sounds like purpose of petition is to generate a mailing list
So a petition is needed to make Hillary take a position on the pipeline? That's all it takes? That's rich.
Beware of phony petitions too...
Signed one petition, and suddenly bombarded with campaign propaganda from Kamala Harris and I'm not even in her state...finally stopped answering any surveys or petitions because I agree, they just want your e-mail address and more so your cash.