Open Thread WE 7 SEP 22 ~ mushrooms


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September is different from all other months. It is more magical. I feel the strange chemical change in the earth which produces mushrooms is the cause, too, of the extra 'life' in the air - a resilience, a sparkle. -- Katherine Mansfield

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One can only guess the amount of magic mushrooms a sane person would have to consume to believe that a frisbee constituted a genuine threat to roughly 3,000 police officers.
-- Mark Thomas

They hold their great balls in the open air, in what is called a fairy-ring. For weeks afterward you can see the ring on the grass. It is not there when they begin, but they make it by waltzing round and round. Sometimes you will find mushrooms inside the ring, and these are fairy chairs that the servants have forgotten to clear away. The chairs and the rings are the only tell-tale marks these little people leave behind them, and they would remove even these were they not so fond of dancing that they toe it till the very moment of the opening of the gates. -- James M. Barrie

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Get Ready for Pharmaceutical-Grade Magic Mushroom Pills

As magic mushrooms make the shift from recreational drug to mental health treatment, patients won’t be eating caps and stems, but a synthetic product made in a lab—one that can be patented and profited from.

Compass Pathways is a London-based company that received Breakthrough Therapy designation from the FDA for its synthetic psilocybin therapy for treatment-resistant depression, meaning that its preliminary clinical evidence was so promising, the FDA will fast-track its review process.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9355vd/get-ready-for-pharmaceutical-grad...

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No wonder psychedelics are threatening to an authoritarian religious hierarchy. You don’t need faith to benefit from a psychedelic experience, let alone a priest or even a shaman to interpret it. What you need is courage—courage to drink the brew, eat the mushroom, or whatever it is, and then to pay attention, and make of it what you will. Suddenly, the tools for direct contact with the transcendent other (whether you call it God or something else) is taken from the hands of an anointed elite and given to the individual seeker. -- Dennis McKenna

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Pictured mushroom: Golden Caps (Psilocybe Cubensis)

https://curativemushrooms.com/types-of-magic-mushrooms

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...but I also can't prove that mushrooms could not be intergalactic spaceships spying on us.
-- Daniel Dennett

Can you understand your own dreams, which arise with mushrooms' rank richness in the night-forests within your skull? -- William T. Vollmann

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Notable occurrences on this date in history ..

1977 Treaty giving the Panama Canal to Panama is Signed
(that is almost generous for the US to give them their country back)

1916 Workmen's Compensation Act passed by US Congress
(under-reported congressional compensation act dwarfs the workers version)

1979 5-day MUSE (Musicians United for Safe Energy) concert against nuclear power opens at Madison Square Garden, NYC; performers include: Jackson Browne; Bonnie Raitt; Crosby, Stills, and Nash; Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band; James Taylor; Carly Simon; and Gil Scott-Heron

2001 The US Federal Trade Commission approves Chevron's bid to buy Texas

2003 Farm Aid 16 held in Columbus, Ohio; performers include Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp, Neil Young, Dave Matthews, Emmylou Harris, Hootie & the Blowfish, Sheryl Crow, Brooks & Dunn, and Daniel Lanois

2013 Chinese President Xi Jinping announces plans to develop a new 'Silk Road Economic Belt' (part of Belt and Road Initiative) during visit to Kazakhstan

2021 Texas Governor Greg Abbott signs law restricting voting rights in the state, including limiting use of drop boxes and empowering partisan observers

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Percentage of Heavy Drinking Days Following Psilocybin-Assisted Psychotherapy vs Placebo in the Treatment of Adult Patients With Alcohol Use Disorder

The results in this trial showed that psilocybin administered in combination with psychotherapy produced robust decreases in the percentage of heavy drinking days compared with those produced by active placebo and psychotherapy.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2795625

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Our brains exist in a state of “controlled hallucination”
by Matthew Hutson -- MIT Technology Review (paywalled)

https://www-technologyreview-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.technologyre...

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Cannabis legalization in US projected to cost big pharma billions

New research from a team of economists has estimated the legalization of medical and recreational cannabis over the past 25 years has cost pharmaceutical companies billions of dollars in lost sales. And, if the US were to legalize cannabis across the whole country, pharma stocks could rapidly drop by over 10 percent.

“The implied sales decrease from recreational legalization is about 129% greater than that of medical legalization,” the researchers noted in the study. “Comparing effects on generic and brand drugmakers, we find the effect on brand drugmakers is 224% larger than the effect on generic drug maker sales.”

Smile Smile

https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/cannabis-legalization-us-big-pharm...

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@QMS
Legalizing it will drop the need for police and jails and all that infrastructure too, until TPTB come up with a new 'bad' thing to keep the people down.

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@Sima

that until the scene is set for the profiteers to profit from legalisation, they'll still be looking for 'guests' to fill up the cells. And until the pharmaceutical industries can get their hands on the potential, we'll still be offered only chemical variations.

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PS ~ this is an open thread so news and views otherwise themed are welcome here too.

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They live in the dark, thrive in shit, and if they stick their heads up they're cut off.
They also promote tree growth and recycle plant wastes.
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Walking over cow pastures this week would yield some good results after all our rain.

Paul Stamets – Psilocybin Mushroom Medicines: A Paradigm Shift in Global Consciousness

Psilocybin mushrooms have been used for millennia by several cultures from Europe to Mesoamerica. More than 116 species have been identified thus far in the genus Psilocybe alone. New scientific evidence is pointing to the fact that, not only can they be psycho-spiritually transformative, but they are capable of stimulating neurogenesis, i.e. the growth of nervous system tissue.

These recent discoveries show psilocybin’s potential for helping address such conditions as depression and anxiety, but perhaps as well to help prevent dementia, Alzheimer’s and other neuropathies. In fact, they may increase intelligence. But these exciting new findings have generated a rush of investors seeking to corner medicalized psilocybin, which raises the question: Should psilocybin mushrooms come to market as People’s Medicine or Profit Medicine?

Paul Stamets, one of the world’s leading authors, inventors, educators and entrepreneurs in the field of mycology, and very possibly the planet’s foremost expert on psilocybin mushrooms, shares his thoughts on the latest research and the rapidly evolving landscape of psychedelic medicine.

Had a busy morning loading and taking in the better half's mower. The electric clutch to engage the mower went out after 3 hours of use. They're going to make it right, and bring it back home after replacement. Always something.

Thanks for the fungal OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout

My beef is how the pharma fat cats can decide what are scheduled drugs and have their
profits enshrined into legislation. I mean cannabis and 'roons just grow out of the ground.
Does that make nature a criminal? Cm'on folks. Medicinals are healthy.

have fun with your scraper!

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@QMS

How can they make weeds illegal? God made the weeds. Good question from a 5 or 6 year old.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

It would cut into big pharma's profits if it was made legal. I saw a headline saying that they would lose billions if it was. And of course it would cut into big alcohol profits too. That’s what gets me. Alcohol in large quantities does damage to the body and it destroys families and it stays legal while weed does what?

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg  
“Oh, but we/they tried with Prohibition and it didn’t work” —

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@lotlizard

I know of several dry counties down south, also an island here in the Northeast.
Seems the stills are still a 'protected' business in some locales. Underground mind
medicine crafters have existed here in the US forever. Commercial pot in CA and CO haven't
escaped the taxing and regulation very well so far, but independents still operate at a
small level. Thinking the same will happen with medicinal mushroom enterprises. It is the
threat of the feds keeping penalties in the felony range that place individuals at a risk.

Don't want to end up like Bonnie and Clyde ..

[video:https://youtu.be/m8twFAOKZwg]

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@QMS

I recently watched Dreamland, a new version of Bonnie and Clyde on netflix. It takes place during the depression in the dustbowl area of, I think Texas? I thought it was very good film.

[video:https://youtu.be/agn4t4SOB_0]

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@Lookout the mushroom photo at the top of piece that QMS kindly supplied:

Pictured mushroom: Golden Caps (Psilocybe Cubensis)

Is also, if I'm not mistaken, also called "golden teacher", (for its abundance of enlightening qualities I presume).

Cubensis has several subspecies(?) that have kind of pronounced morphological differences. A good friend is currently growing both "golden teacher" and "penis-envy" strains (you might guess, and be right, that the latter are mushrooms whose caps resemble a rather handsome glans penis).

So much good research will be done really soon (or finally published I imagine in many cases) now that mushrooms have been decriminalized (in a few states anyway). Dosing, timing, microdosing...real differences, if any, between e.g. golden teacher and other cubensis strains. Optimizing. If the planet isn't cooked soon, I think this will really help everyone.

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@peachcreek

The Psilocybe varieties have been proven to help with depression, PTSD, ease fatal cancer
suffering, improve brain functions and social interactions among withdrawn mental patients.

Maybe too much available fun for the sterile white lab coat types?

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Get Ready for Pharmaceutical-Grade Magic Mushroom Pills

The following is most productively performed as a group endeavor

Take the smaller diameter 1/2 of a 000 gel cap in the left hand and dip fill it from a bowl of powdered dried psilocybe mexicana. With the right hand similarly fill the larger half of such a cap 2/3 to 3/4 full. carefully cover the left hand cap with the right hand one and tap on table to settle. Place in product receptacle. Repeat process. After a bit you will find yourself having trouble manipulating the caps due to an accumulation of powdered psilocybe mexicana on the linger tips. Lick it off and continue. You will know when you are done.

In other news:

2001 The US Federal Trade Commission approves Chevron's bid to buy Texas

Really now, a bit extreme I think.

I suspect that the FTC approved Chevron's bid to buy The Texas Oil Company, mo bettah known as Texaco(tm)

Thanks for the OT and the glorious memories and freaking Ian Anderson no less. Of course, now I can't post this until the vid is over or it will terminate, I need to find out if that is me or the site doing that, though, of course, it needs to refresh to post the post, so ...

Be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris

figured someone might.

enjoy your day!

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@QMS

Texaco was simply "The Texas Company", Oil wasn't part of the name. Thanks for the jethro tull

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris

Bye-bye the Texaco label.

(Chevron, incidentally, started out as Standard Oil - anyone remember those scandals?)

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven

In 1911, after dissolution of the Standard Oil empire, eight companies retained “Standard Oil” in their names, but by the late 20th century the name had almost passed into history. In 1931 Standard Oil Company of New York merged with Vacuum Oil Company (another trust company) to form Socony-Vacuum, which in 1966 became Mobil Oil Corporation. Standard Oil (Indiana) absorbed Standard Oil of Nebraska in 1939 and Standard Oil of Kansas in 1948 and was renamed Amoco Corporation in 1985. Standard Oil of California acquired Standard Oil of Kentucky in 1961 and was renamed Chevron Corporation in 1984. Standard Oil Company (New Jersey) changed its name to Exxon Corporation in 1972. British Petroleum Company PLC completed the purchase of Standard Oil Company (Ohio) in 1987, and in 1998 British Petroleum (renamed BP) merged with Amoco. Exxon and Mobil merged in 1999, and Chevron merged with Texaco in 2001.

and in 2019 ..

After more than a century, the Justice Department is dropping its effort to break up Standard Oil. A federal court was asked Tuesday to toss out the decree that required John D. Rockefeller to give up control of 37 subsidiaries that helped his company monopolize the oil industry, the Wall Street Journal reports

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@TheOtherMaven

Chevron became, officially and formally, "Chevron-Texaco", but you will still find texaco branded products and gas stations. In fact, there is a corner on Crow Canyon Road tht has a Texaco(tm) station and a Chevron)tm) station on diagonally opposing corners.

be well and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

A patented pill for a thrill? What a novel idea! That damn Big Pharma! Amazing! They have to figure out cannabis profit...oh, wait! Too late!
Q, a fun OT, for which I am most grateful!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

and WHY?
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anybody care to discuss the matter?

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Just a thought from your friendly local Radical.

@Silvers Whatcha got?

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp Note that because its a given that airliners are periodically damaged by hard landings ( mind you, no injuries reported, just damage to aircraft ) How much more so, should the stress caused by slamming into a skyscraper wall, damage an airliner. therefore the wing-shaped-gash idea is an insult to human intelligence.

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@Silvers

As with most disastrous issues, there are members who lean towards an 'inside job'
others believe the official explanation, and a few are somewhere in-between.

I have been following the Lawyers Committee for 911 Inquiry for many years.
https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/about2/

They have been trying to force a grand jury to open an inquiry into the
criminal investigation of the destruction of the twin towers. There have never
been any criminal charges nor trials involving this episode.

The fact that the justice system refuses to allow any legal proceedings suggests
there exists a cover-up. Inquiring minds would like to see our courts step up and
do their jobs.

What are your thoughts? Thanks for posting Silvers.

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@QMS

and got very lucky with their choices. Silverstein who owned the towers doubled his insurance on them too. My view is that it was either allowed to happen or people from the US were involved in the attacks. Another huge red flag was Cheney telling the Air Force to stand down. But the cherry on top was the passport that was found on the wreckage in pretty good shape. How about the dancing Israelis who were video taping the event and of course we can’t forget the English broadcaster who said that building 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it did. And why was all the video surrounding the pentagon confiscated right after the missile plane hit it?

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@snoopydawg that the company contracted to go through the towers to sniff for bombs did not do a walk-through sniff on 911. The company was owned by George Bush' brother.
I will never forget the guy I met in NYC who was a retired firefighter. He spoke about being ordered to set up for triage, along with other first responders, before the planes were headed for the towers.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

on about 20 floors not long before the event too. But for me the huge red flag was that the hijacked planes were allowed to fly over the most important parts of the country for over an hour and not one jet was sent to look into them. Remember when Paine Stewart's smaller plane became unresponsive and 2 jets were sent to investigate? In what world would 4 passenger jets be allowed to fly over the eastern part of the country without any concern?
Building 7 is the giveaway in my book because just before it collapsed in its own footprint someone gave the order to pull it. That would mean that explosive devices were already in place to ‘pull' it.
15 of the men blamed on the attacks were Saudis and the Bin Laden family was allowed to fly out of the country when all other planes were grounded. And why was Bandaranaike Bush Bin Laden seen at the WH with Bush and Cheney and they were all smiles and giggles the day after? What was there to laugh about?

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@QMS @QMS May I suggest that people start by asking
WHY did the worlds greatest military power FAIL to defend even its own HQ?
additionally, airliner crashes are known to be chaotic & messy
however in the case of 4 airliner crashes, the plane was alleged to have penetrated a wall ( or soil ) such as to go nose to tail and make the plane virtually disappear from sight.
WHY?

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@Silvers

and I mentioned it here. It’s the biggest giveaway that something wasn’t kosher that day. Especially when the plane was close to Washington.

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@Silvers [video:https://www.corbettreport.com/lessonslearned/]

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh I agree they lied
however I have a problem with the random individual(s) that I may tell about it
may answer by telling me that I'm a "conspiracy freak" and therefore invalid.

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@Silvers

instead of using their brains, especially when what your brain is
telling you, does not coincide with the chosen meme

has something to do with watching TV methinks
which is something I care not to do

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@ggersh

Perhaps all of the media cameras were trained to focus on a couple images during the hits.
In this day of laser projected images, could a picture of a plane flying into buildings have been
a projected image timed to for the projected impact, then set off a series of charges to
duplicate the profile of the plane? If the planes disintegrated upon impact, there would be
evidence. A few passports in the debris (oddly legible after a flaming crash) seemed to give
credence to their story.

They knew who were on those flights. Their passports could easily be replicated and planted
as evidence, after the deed was done.

This does not comport with the question of where the original aircrafts ended up. But if the
nations' military were told to stand down, the only trace for that would be ground radar
between Boston and NY. Are those records available?

Thinking like a sleuth. Createing scenarios to support a theory.

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@QMS @QMS the major red-flag for me is the fact that any airliner crashing into a skyscraper wall as was reported by the media, would not have penetrated completely, just not happening,
we can have a discussion on the subject for anyone who doesn't see it, but the wing-shaped gash bit is a non-starter, could not possibly have happened.

am I preaching to the Choir or does anyone want to engage on the subject?

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Just a thought from your friendly local Radical.

the 21rst anniversary of the FALSE FLAG attack on the 11th of September.
I am so adamant about reminding people about this because the BIG LIE
has damaged society as we are currently living it. people need to wake up and smell the burnt Reichstag.

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