New York Times suing OpenAI/Microsoft

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Don't know which is worse, Microsoft trying to train their Chatbot using the lying, propagandizing, mis/dis-informing New York Times, or the NYT trying to monetize their evil by suing to block MS from using their stories.
The question becomes: Can a subscriber use a NYT story to instruct a third party? Or does that third party first have to pay the NYT?
Do any of us who reference an article or story from the Times owe the Times for referencing that info?
I personally feel all that info is GIGO for training purposes, including high school journalism classes.
But why would OpenAI/Microsoft want to use them?
I can think of many other much better sources to train an AI system on how to form a cogent, informative story.
Sources like the Smithsonian, Nature, JAMA, the Conversation, even Caucus99% would be better.
This battle between mega media goliaths is showing all of them are arcing toward evil.
Will OpenAI/Microsoft change their name to Skynet?
Simplicius76 has an essay up on the newest battlefield robots using AI and is really frightening to behold.
We may have to take stock of all available John Connors.
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enhydra lutris's picture

new year, purportedly a time of new beginnings and a focus on the future. I've largely ignored that outlook for most of my life because "be here now" and each day starts a new year, running from today to a year from yesterday. I'm gonna stick with that while making allowances for things like the various planting and harvesting times, etc.

It is also an election year. Sadly, all politics, in the end, is local, but everybody is focused on the national stage, especially the NuDems, and all their followers including those who never noticed the changeover even though they publicly announced that the old dems were gone and the newdems were in control many times. The grift and graft really flow up to the national poly-ticks (many bloodsuckers) so they ignore those petty local races where they could arguably impact our lives for the better and compete with the goop for rights to shepherd essentially identical neocon and neoliberal projects, programs and policies into being. Meh, in a word.

So onward with the daily challenge, how to keep all my gear and gadgets in sync and on the same page so that I may more easily and comfortably get my shit done no matter where I am physically located. Meanwhile

be well and have a wonderful 2024

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

earthling1's picture

@enhydra lutris
I'm concentrating on local 'tics as the national is already chosen.
I am going for Joe Kent again and get rid of the warmonger Perez.
Have a great new season.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

Israel for apartheid in the ICJ. Results? Another posturing attempt to wear the white hat.
Meanwhile, the ROW (except for Yemen and Lebanon) do nothing. Changes may not come
thru courts and suits. The will of normal people is not an issue. Solutions require some sort
of dissolution of the powered elite.

Training AI appears to be a thing now. Copy writes and reality checks have taken precedents
to assure that sensible truth is a negotiating point at best.

Thanks for the OT!

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enhydra lutris's picture

@QMS

Ubu Roi and other dada works, and Haiku translations.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@QMS
Israel signed an agreement way back when and have reneged.
So. Africa can at least expose them before the ROW as agreement incapable.
Big whoop, I know. But it's something.
Have a good new year.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

That means, once again, I will vote in the R primary because I have a close friend running for Sheriff, a close friend running for commissioner in my county precinct, and those races go all the way in the primary, as there are no November D opponents. Those positions directly effect me and mine.
I have an interest in booting out a state rep who is making a fortune on some business deals with an infamous property development, Colony Ridge, which caters only to illegals. Seems Rs want to keep them out, but since they are getting here, may as well make some $, amirite? Hypocrite bastard.
State and Federal races really no longer matter to me. I give a couple of clicks on the world's most trustworthy voting machine, thanks to Diebold, and just walk away.
Today, 3 feral cats spent hours at the office. Oh, joy. A 4th just peeked through the fence. Whew!
NYT can kiss my ass, and I hope they lose.
Thanks for the OT, e1.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp
in a way. Artifical intelligence learning from artificial intelligence.
What could possibly go wrong, eh?

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 Fake everything, all the time.
The US is getting to the point where it is a nice place to visit, but who would want to live there?
Alternative media is the best thing we have for truth, and blogs, such as this one, have members that find it, post it, give opinions on it, ask for more opinions on it. And blogs such as this one are disappearing. We have to stick together, e1.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981