Neoliberal Clintonites working hard to undermine the Democratic front-runner

It's been said before that establishment Democrats would rather lose to a Republican than win with a leftist, but now we have proof. That proof comes in the form of smears by center-right, Clinton loyalists who are working overtime to undermine the obvious Democratic front-runner, Bernie Sanders.
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Philippe Reines, a political consultant and former Clinton adviser, appeared on MSNBC. He claimed Sanders had not reached out to any of the 17 million, who did not vote for him in 2016. This is false. Sanders visited several states in the south in April 2018, including South Carolina, to make inroads with black voters.
...“It seems like there’s an arrogance among Sanders supporters,” Reines added.

What Reines means is that not only are Bernie supporters not obeying the neoliberal establishment, but they are actually daring to dismiss them. For an entitled class, this is unforgivable.
What is stunning even for Washington politics, is how they do the Republican's dirty work while still pretending to be loyal Democrats. If the rolls were reversed, Clintonites would be crying 'treason'.

And then, there is Zac Petkanas, who was the rapid response director for Clinton’s 2016 campaign. He took some of the opposition research the Clinton campaign had available and wrote a column for NBC News outlining the basics of how his Democratic Party opponents could attack him in 2020.
...Clinton Democrats seem intent to re-litigate the 2016 primary until Sanders supporters submit to their petty political analysis. They still suffer from post-2016 election trauma and struggle to cope in a world where the politics of their opponent are widely viewed as the answer to Trump and very few are clamoring for a Democrat like Clinton to return for a third campaign.

“I don’t have a problem with Bernie getting in the race, ‘when is he getting out’ is probably a better question.”
- Bakari Sellers

“You can see why she’s one of the most disliked politicians in America. She’s not nice. Her people are not nice.”
- Sanders 2016 presidential campaign spokesman, Michael Briggs, called Team Clinton

“I think that at some point bygones can be bygones, but what you can’t get around is the electability question.”
- David Brock

“It is not a secret that people who would hang out with David Brock would be putting their class interests ahead of the party and the country.”
- Jeff Weaver

Republicans and Clintonites and the news media has been attacking him for three years, and yet they've barely even scratched his favorability.
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He's got the broadest base of support by far, the most grassroots support by far, and has the most money by far. If he was anyone else with neoliberal values the Democratic establishment would be celebrating him.
I can think of only two modern examples of a party establishment undermining their obvious front runner: Donald Trump and Jeremy Corbyn.

Both Trump and Corbyn were fought by their party establishment and MSM, and welcomed by the opposition party that badly underestimated them.
However, Trump won by virtue of enormous piles of money, celebrity status and outrageous lies.
Corbyn is succeeding by building a broad-based grassroots movement, like Bernie is. Thus, Corbyn's saga since winning the leadership of the Labour Party is both instructive and predictive for Bernie's campaign.

Although at first not taken seriously — in mid-July, the Telegraph provided a “handy five-step guide” to conservatives for how to join Labour and vote for Corbyn in order to “condemn Labour to years in the political wilderness” — Corbyn soon became the target of attacks. For “moderate” Labour MPs, who had long accepted the Third Way theory that only moving rightward could win elections, Corbyn’s success seemed to pose a danger to Labour’s electability (as well a danger to how true that theory was).
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Tony Blair was one of the most frequent voices on this front. In July, he told Labour voters that “if your heart’s with Jeremy Corbyn, get a transplant.” He further added that “radical leftism was often quite reactionary,” and that he “wouldn’t want to win on an old fashioned leftist platform.” (Note that, far from the usual Third Way protests about electability, Blair here is quite clear about his hostility to left-wing policies on principle).

In August, he warned that “Jeremy Corbyn’s politics are fantasy — just like Alice in Wonderland.” Earlier that month, he cautioned that, with Corbyn at the helm, “the party won’t just face defeat but annihilation,” warning that voters “don’t think their challenges can be met by old-fashioned state control” and think “that a party without a serious deficit-reduction plan is not in these times a serious contender to govern them.”

Does any of this sound familiar? It does to me. Just replace Blair with Clinton.
If you still don't see the similarities, check this out.

It didn’t matter that the public at the time broadly agreed with Corbyn’s policies. It didn’t matter that more than forty economists, including a former adviser to the Bank of England, signed a letter dismissing criticisms that they were too extreme, or that thirty-five other economists did the same. It wouldn’t even matter, a month later, when the Financial Times published two pieces defending Corbyn’s policies, including his “people’s quantitative easing,” which had been roundly derided (the New Yorker would later call it “an endearing and almost childlike solution”).

Neither did it matter that Corbyn’s support from rank-and-file party members was broad. In a four-way race, by mid-August, Corbyn was the choice of 49 percent of existing Labour members, 67 percent of trade union supporters, and 55 percent of those who had paid £3 to vote, putting him 32 points ahead his closest rival. Nonetheless, his opponents in the party would later claim his win was the result of far-Left “infiltration” of the party.

At this point the pattern matches up to the Sanders campaign of today.
That's good news, because this happened next.

As the prospect of beating Corbyn became more and more remote, they even considered launching a legal challenge against the election process.
None of it worked. Corbyn won with 59.5 percent of the vote. Burnham, the runner-up, received 19 percent. According to the Guardian, “shell-shocked members of the shadow cabinet, some on the verge of tears, gathered together in small groups in the foyer” in reaction to the victory, while others “continued plotting, in the manner of Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender at the end of the second world war.”

Blairites = Clintonites.
Plain and simple, and I think that by this time next year we could make Clintonites cry too. Wouldn't that make it all worthwhile?
But here's the cautionary part of the tale: Blairites never gave up. They fought tooth-and-nail to undermine Corbyn, and have never stopped, even when it was obvious they could never win. Even when Corbyn led Labour to it's largest election gains in decades.
Eventually some of them sided with the Tories.
We should expect the same from Clintonites.

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The focus group's dismissal of Biden is notable since the former vice president, who is expected to join the Democratic primary soon, has been leading a number of public opinion polls and is seen as the potential front-runner.

The Democrats gathered by CNN, however, said they weren't interested in Biden. Some said they wanted a candidate who was further to the left.

“I think we need a bold, strong leadership, and you’ll find that in the progressives," Democratic voter Carol Evans said.

“We had the standard-bearer for the kind of pragmatic centrist candidate in Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Donald Trump is now president. He is not your average political candidate, so we really need to try to think outside the box because, you know, it seems like the dude is made of rubber. Anything you throw at him just bounces off, there’s nothing that sticks," said focus group member Michael Milisits.

Several progressives, including Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), have entered the race.

The focus group was moderated by "New Day" co-anchor Alisyn Camerota at CNN's New York City bureau.

When she asked if any of the focus group members would like Biden to enter the race, none of the six people raised their hands.

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@gjohnsit

Elizabeth Warren is progressive, my ass. The Democratic PTB has been trying to sell us that since Obama shitcanned her and anointed her for U.S. Senator from Massachusetts as severance pay.

What was that Hillary said about Bernie? Waving your arms about doesn't mean a lot? No, of course not. Duh. But being for the people does mean a lot. Ever watch Warren give an impassioned speech with the sound off? Good grief. Waving her arms about isn't even the word for it. But she isn't for the people.

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@HenryAWallace that your ass was the most progressive section of your body. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren were the 2 people TPTB vetoed as VP candidates for Hillary. That tells a neutral observer something.

Obama shitcanned a darling of TPTB? That's your story and your sticking to it. Obama had to get Warren out because Timothy Geithner had no fact based responses to her arguments for policies to help working people. Sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling no, no, no was bad optics. Are you suggesting the great progressive warrior Geithner was fighting off Elizabeth Warren, friend of TPTB?

Whether we agree or not I nearly always enjoy your posts. This drivel is beneath you.

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@FuturePassed

I had a similar thought about your insulting reply to my post. (Mercifully, I've never given your ass a thought.) Then again, it obviously isn't so far beneath you that you didn't post it.

Contrary to the belief of some, I don't insult posters who haven't onsulted me, whether by personal insult, snark and/or condescension (a possible exception to that general rule being unmistakable bigotry of some kind). I see no reason not to respond in kind when a poster has proven incapable of disagreeing with me without being insulting, though. I also see no reason to dignify crap with a substantive response, not matter how wrong the post may be on substance, as is yours.

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That Markie Moosedroppings has discarded his latest 'poll' due to 'cheating' by supporters of Sanders.

Sure, Kos, sure....... I'm sure it's just as you say.

Grotty little man.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref

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@HenryAWallace

It's a wonder anybody buys his BS at this point.

Those saps at his site...? Deluded 'R' Us.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref

Not only is "grotty, gormless" alliterative, but I'd rather steal two words than one.

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@Bollox Ref

Poll voters had to give their emails to vote (in order to be constantly dunned for ToP fundraising) and still Kamillary (ht Snoopydawg) loses in the poll.

Ooopsie Markos...Time to purge the unclean once again. Denise is really really pissed.

As they love to say there when you don't tow the party line...Don't Be A Dick...

Hahahahaha

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Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

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@Bollox Ref

I read over at WotB That Markie Moosedroppings has discarded his latest 'poll' due to 'cheating' by supporters of Sanders.

Sure, Kos, sure....... I'm sure it's just as you say.

Grotty little man.

What, you mean folks dared to select Sanders in that selfsame poll?

Grotty little man.

Sounds more like a snotty little man to me.....

Bad

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

That's Kos the Gate Shagger.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson

@bobswern link

The general election exit poll was meant to confirm that Theresa May’s gamble had paid off, and she had strengthened her majority. Instead, it suggested Labour was in touching distance of ousting her from Downing Street.

“I was on air when the exit poll was announced,” McDonnell recalled. “I get on all right with Michael, but he’s a tough character, he’s robust. When it came on, I did the usual bit, ‘This is just a poll.’ That’s the standard line for politicians to spout at the early stage of a marathon election night”. But as he glanced at the defence secretary, “the blood drained from his face,” McDonnell said. “When the cameras were off, he was gripping my arm, saying, ‘This can’t be right John, this can’t be right.’ And I was having to calm him down and say, ‘It’s only a poll Michael, don’t worry.’”
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“Every lesson all these politics professors ever learned has been proved wrong,” says Jon Trickett, another trusted Corbyn ally, whose analysis helped to shape the campaign’s broad outlines. “I think the dislocation between ordinary people’s lives and the people who run the country has never been greater: they don’t understand what’s going on in the country. That applies to the people that write the newspapers, the people on the telly and some people in our own party. The political centre of gravity in the country was never where they thought it was.”

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@gjohnsit ...all live under "Taibbi's Law..." (I've republished this Taibbi quote from Rolling Stone, circa 2009-2010, dozens of times, over the past 9-10 years...it doesn't just apply to our banking laws...it's about everything that happens in Washington, D.C.)

...Democrats had sold the public on the idea that it was the Republicans who were killing progressive initiatives. In reality, Republican and Democratic leaders were working together with industry insiders and deep-pocketed lobbyists to prevent rogue members like Merkley and Levin from effecting real change. In public, the parties stage a show of bitter bipartisan stalemate. But when the cameras are off, they fuck like crazed weasels in heat...

But, every day, more and more people in this country are getting hip to this sh*t!!!

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"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson

@bobswern

But, every day, more and more people in this country are getting hip to this sh*t!!!

#1) Trust in the news media is mostly gone

#2) Majority of Democrats are thinking for themselves

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@gjohnsit Thanks, yet again!

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"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson

Not as though Sanders or Stein sold Russia uranium or hired campaign managers with ties to Russia, was it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/12/13/russian-uranium-one-d...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/politics/john-tony-podesta-mueller...

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/373363-democratic-ties-to-russia-ar...

Just like Rove: Hit your opponent on your client's biggest weaknesses. And when Hillary is you client, that list is long.

But...is Sanders still Hillary's opponent in 2019? Are they doing this because she is a 2020 hopeful or just one of politics's biggest sore losers ever?

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@HenryAWallace

But...is Sanders still Hillary's opponent in 2019?

Good question. Why is Hillary and her minions doing the work of the Republican Party?

Are they doing this because she is a 2020 hopeful or just one of politics's biggest sore losers ever?

That would be "yes".

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@gjohnsit

Why is Hillary and her minions doing the work of the Republican Party?

Senator McCain and I are ready for that 3 am phone call. Senator Obama is not.

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@gjohnsit I imagine that Clinton blames Sanders for her 2016 loss and not her dismal campaign.

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Whaa! I'm getting tired of telling people that they need to look up how people register in Vermont. But I bet Bernie is just as tired of explaining that too.

One reason why sanctions were removed from Deripaska's aluminum company because he isn't the soul owner of it. There are multiple owners from different countries and besides that the price of making anything from it was skyrocketing. But explain that to the brain dead Hillbots and they don't believe it. Was Bernie the only one who voted or not for that?

People just can't let go of him voting for the crime and gun bills even though he's explained those votes too numerous times. But bring up Hillary's welfare reform bill and the fact that it was she and her husband that created the crime bill in the first place and duck.

Both Biden and Herheinous have done so many things that have hurt us and yet it's like they wear teflon because people either don't believe it or they have a way to explain it away. I'm curious to see what happens this time when Bernie is cheated out of the primary. Because he's going to be.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg

at that poll that Bernie just won decisively, the one that is now "discarded", the comments are insanely non-self-aware.

"Bernie didn't release 10 years of tax returns. Is he scared there's something in them?"

while not making the connection with "Hillary didn't release the text of her Wall Street speeches".

Lots of 'em saying they'll refuse to vote for Bernie because he gave Trump the win, without realizing they're saying they'd rather see Trump win again than have Bernie be President.

Of course, I don't really much care. I'm not 100% for Bernie. I don't trust any of them.

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@Shahryar

This guy went off on kos for saying that the poll wasn't accurate because people were able to cheat by voting more than once. One person has a problem with how kos is setting up a way for people to say that the primary was rigged again.

This inaccurate Kos straw poll may be setting us up for a “Bernie Got Robbed!” backlash should he indeed lose this primary to another Democratic candidate.

I'm with you here. I really don't care because I'm not playing in this rigged voting system anymore and because it doesn't matter who gets to play president since the script never changes. Even when people vote on local issues it gets changed to fit what the powers want.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@Shahryar @Shahryar Bernie represents to the democratic party establishment. (Or Tulsi Gabbard either.)
Is there some specific policy he is promoting that has them bringing out the big media guns and media blackout, or is there something on his overall milk toast agenda that I am just not seeing through their lenses?
My knee jerk reaction is to defend him, but he did or said some things I just can't abide.
I do not remember giving over my interest in seeking information to mainstream media or the democratic party.
I do not like duct tape on mouths, blindfolds over eyes.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp I find the Hillary zealots as horrid as the hardcore Trumpistas: it's one thing to figure that Clinton was the lesser of evils or to be near hysterical over the thought of Trump as president but the assertion HRC was the "best qualified candidate ever" is so ridiculous that it was and is hard to take anyone uttering that nonsense seriously.

Since like conservatism Clinton can never fail and only be failed they have to find someone else to blame for the catastrophe. The same folks tends to dismiss Gabbard as a joke, probably because of her support for Sanders rather than the DNC and HRC (her violation of the neocon dogma on Syria earned her another swarm of verminous for).

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@MinuteMan

he dared challenge Her.

But it's also true that Bernie, like Corbyn, talks about issues and believes what he's saying. Which is unlike Obama, who also spoke about needed stuff but who, as Goulsbee told the Canadians, was only doing it for the election.

Bernie, and Tulsi, would cost some people a lot of money. It's always money. On one hand, do good (house the homeless, feed the poor, end war), on the other, make money. Faced with that choice the powers that be always choose making money.

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is either a deliberate liar, or a sad stooge whose political opinions are received directly from the media's phony, contrived narrative.

Even HRC wasn't "unelectable". She was damned hard to elect, but she (and her overpaid consultoriat) did everything possible to make it as hard as possible.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Back in 2003, there was a well written article detailing the back dealings between the U.S. and England in lying to both nations to get us into war.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB177/Info%20Operations%20Roadmap%...

These mechanisms still exist. The exact same people that sold us the war and now attacking those on the left with 'anti-Semitism'. Yes, Tony Blair is now some humanitarian saint that cares about humankind and is the judge of who is an anti-Semite. The fact that he lied to his nation to kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims means nothing to establishment media.

So while he is out trashing non-neoliberals the Clintonites are doing the same in the U.S. Might I add that Clinton supported the illegal war in Iraq, as well as the destroying Libya.

How can anyone even pretending to be on the left support these vile creatures?

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