(Leaked? Really?): RUSSIA HAS UNDERWATER NUCLEAR DRONES, LEAKED PENTAGON DOCUMENTS REVEAL

Ohhhh really? RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! Crank up the hysteria folks! Apparently we aren’t beating the war drums loud enough for the MIC.

RUSSIA HAS UNDERWATER NUCLEAR DRONES, LEAKED PENTAGON DOCUMENTS REVEAL

Russia is in possession of an underwater nuclear drone capable of carrying a 100-megaton nuclear warhead, a recently leaked draft of the Pentagon's Nuclear Posture Review confirmed.

The weapon, referred to in the document as an “AUV,” or autonomous underwater vehicle, is featured in a chart that lays out Russia's multiple nuclear delivery vehicles.

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-drones-nuclear-weapons-pentagon-leak-7810...

Exclusive: Here Is A Draft Of Trump’s Nuclear Review. He Wants A Lot More Nukes.
His first Nuclear Posture Review: more nukes, more posturing.

In his first year in office, President Barack Obama gave a landmark address in Prague in which he famously affirmed “clearly and with conviction America’s commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” The commitment to total nuclear disarmament was a major departure from the George W. Bush administration — the first time, in fact, that the United States had declared a nuclear-free world a major policy goal.

Now, eight years later, it’s the Trump administration’s turn to lay out its nuclear weapons policy. And according to a pre-decisional draft of the 2018 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) obtained by HuffPost, Trump’s Department of Defense has gone a decidedly different route: new nukes, for no good reason.

In October, NBC reported that President Trump had told a gathering of high-ranking national security leaders that “he wanted what amounted to a nearly tenfold increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal.” While the report doesn’t nearly go that far, it does call for the development of new, so-called low-yield nuclear weapons — warheads with a lower explosive force.

The logic of those pushing for the development of smaller nukes is that our current nuclear weapons are too big and too deadly to ever use; we are effectively self-deterred, and the world knows it. To make sure other countries believe that we’d actually use nuclear force, the thinking goes, we need more low-yield nukes.

But official language around nuclear weapons is slippery and euphemistic. “Low yield” suggests a softer sort of weaponry, diet nukes, until you realize that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were technically “low-yield” weapons.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a4d4773e4b06d1621bce4c5

Golly, I’m getting more cynical and jaded by the day. For the first time the thought “maybe that missile alert the other day wasn’t an ‘accident’ just did a couple laps around the thing betweenmy ears.

Of course we need more nukes. Tired old men running things here in the good old US of S feel everything slipping out of their grasp and they’d rather kill every living thing on this planet than to let that happen.

EDIT: finished sentence I just left hanging there making no sense.

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TheOtherMaven's picture

What he said to the outside world bore absolutely no relationship to what he asked Congress for (Moar Nukes, Moar Nukes!).

Janus-faced snake.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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Russia reveals giant nuclear torpedo in state TV 'leak'
12 November 2015

Launched by a submarine, it would create "wide areas of radioactive contamination", the document says.

The "oceanic multi-purpose Status-6 system" is designed to "destroy important economic installations of the enemy in coastal areas and cause guaranteed devastating damage to the country's territory by creating wide areas of radioactive contamination, rendering them unusable for military, economic or other activity for a long time", the document says.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34797252

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Experts are quite concerned about Trump Admin 'useable nuclear weapons' and the dangers in this climate of posturing and belicosity .

Check out this interesting radio interview with an expert suggested by The Center from Non Proliferation Studies in Monterrey. (My wife jb and I were involved with CNS under a special program for HS students to learn and debate about the issues of non proliferation of weapons of mass destruction last decade before we retired.)

Click on
13:40 Trump administration's Nuclear Posture Review

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

@divineorder Policy makers in the Pentagon have been thinking about using smaller "tactical nukes" way before Trump. It was Obama after all who started the "nuclear weapons modernization" drive aimed squarely at Russia. Pentagon war gamed a situation where Russia invades one of the Baltic nations, where NATO troops get over-run, and then the US responds with "tactical nukes: And of course the Russians back down and America wins. There is a dangerous idea started with Yeltsin where neocons view the Russians are a paper tiger and will back down when confronted face to face. Clinton as SoS produced a position paper arguing for directly attacking the Assad regime with the belief that the Russians would back down.

Stephen Cohen has read Russian military policy papers which have stated that any invasion or attack on Russian homeland will result in the use of nuclear weapons.

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@MrWebster @MrWebster the one in the interview are well aware of the history. Today, though, we are dealing with the Trump Admin.

Key today is : ' dangers in this climate of posturing and belicosity .'

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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is Known that Vlad will come in the AP_527978708352_c0-0-4181-2437_s561x327.jpgwater. And the Americans, he will Blow Up.

The Hairball needs the "low-yield" nukes for border security. They will be deployed against the brown people, who "are bringing drugs, are bringing crime, are rapists," who "throw the large sacks of drugs over, and hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff," thereby causing terrible Injuries to the white people. Those that are not killed by the low-yield nukes, they will glow in the dark. In this way they can be more easily rounded up, and returned to the shithole countries.

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Is 14-legged killer squid found TWO MILES beneath Antarctica being weaponised by Putin?
A KILLER giant squid that can hypnotise its prey and paralyse humans at a distance of 150 feet using poisonous venom is being developed as a secret weapon by Vladimir Putin, a scientist has claimed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/735175/vladimir-putin-killer-octopu...

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President Obama's Secretary of Defense, worked very hard to sell this $1.7 trillion more usable nuclear weapons program. The obscenity of this program is the reason I would not vote for the Democratic Party's candidate for president in 2016.

I am increasingly aware that friends and family do not follow foreign policy issues and have fallen under the spell of the Party's hypnotic trance about the need for cold war, hot war, and increased defense spending. But I hope this forum, writers at caucus99%, knows that Ashton Carter brought this program into being, though he was only working toward a goal advocated by defense establishment think tanks and insiders of long standing.

I am thrilled that family and friends and writers at caucus99% are opposed to limited nuclear war. And I am amazed at how right I was that suddenly the hawk in our military industrial leadership no longer looks like a dove, now that we have a lunatic clown for a president instead of a nice guy. But I hope you will understand that more usable nuclear weapons were not the idea of Donald Trump. He may rot in hell for embracing the idea, but it wasn't his.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/08/04/new-us-nuclear-weapon-...

STRATEGIC CULTURE FOUNDATION
ANDREI AKULOV | 04.08.2016 | FEATURED STORY
New US Nuclear Weapon Cleared for Production Engineering

The National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has authorized the B61-12 warhead life-extension program (LEP) to enter the production-engineering phase – the final one prior to actual production.

Established by Congress in 2000, the NNSA is a semi-autonomous agency within the Department of Energy. While the Defense Department manages the delivery systems of the nuclear force, the agency has oversight over the development, maintenance and disposal of nuclear warheads.

The first production unit of the weapon is planned for fiscal year 2020. The LEP – a joint NNSA and United States Air Force (USAF) program – will add at least an additional 20 years to the life of the system.

The decision is part of the plan to modernize the US nuclear forces, which could cost $350-$450 billion over the next decade.

The $8 billion B61-12 LEP is probably the most expensive nuclear bomb program in US history.

On July 29, the Air Force released requests for proposals for the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD), which replaces the 1960s-era Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the Long Range Standoff (LRSO) weapon, which will replace the AGM-86B Air Launched Cruise Missile.

… The modernization includes a new tail fin assembly for greater accuracy and would allow a lower nuclear yield in attacking targets. The B61-12 will have both air- and ground-burst capability. The capability to penetrate below the surface has significant implications for the types of targets that can be held at risk with the bomb.

A nuclear weapon that detonates after penetrating the earth more efficiently transmits its explosive energy to the ground, thus is more effective at destroying deeply buried targets for a given nuclear yield. The B61-12 is designed to have four selectable explosive yields: 0.3 kilotons (kt), 1.5 kt, 10 kt and 50 kt. According to the US National Academies’ study, the maximum destructive potential of the B61-12 against underground targets is equivalent to the capability of a surface-burst weapon with a yield of 750 kt to 1,250 kt.

The yield can be lowered as needed for any particular mission. In fact, the bomb’s explosive force can be reduced electronically through a dial-a-yield system accessed by a hatch on the bomb’s body.

Even at the lowest selective yield setting of only 0.3 kt, the ground-shock coupling of a B61-12 exploding a few meters underground would be equivalent to a surface-burst weapon with a yield of 4.5 kt to 7.5 kt...

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@Linda Wood

get out your checkbook, but your checkbook and mine won't amount to a drop in the bucket for the imaginary spending engaged in by the military industrial complex.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42592-massive-overkill-brought-to-you...

Massive Overkill: Brought to You by the Nuclear-Industrial Complex
Tuesday, November 14, 2017
By William D. Hartung, TomDispatch

… In other words, in every sense of the term, the US nuclear arsenal already represents overkill on an almost unimaginable scale. Independent experts from US war colleges suggest that about 300 warheads would be more than enough to deter any country from launching a nuclear attack on the United States.

Despite this, Donald Trump is all in (and more) on the Pentagon's plan -- developed under Barack Obama -- to build a new generation of nuclear-armed bombers, submarines, and missiles, as well as new generations of warheads to go with them. The cost of this "modernization" program? The Congressional Budget Office recently pegged it at $1.7 trillion over the next three decades, adjusted for inflation. As Derek Johnson, director of the antinuclear organization Global Zero, has noted, "That's money we don't have for an arsenal we don't need."

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@Linda Wood

… In other words, in every sense of the term, the US nuclear arsenal already represents overkill on an almost unimaginable scale. Independent experts from US war colleges suggest that about 300 warheads would be more than enough to deter any country from launching a nuclear attack on the United States. ...

And, as a bonus, 300 nuclear warheads are also more than enough to destroy all planetary life by kicking more than enough particles high enough to block more than enough sunlight to more than enough kill off global oxygen production, not just food. That's not even getting into the radiation. A couple of hundred modern warheads used in a regional war would be plenty to make Venus out of Earth in short order.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

The major thing making me think that wasn't an accident is the fact that we didn't just start launching our own missiles. Or maybe it was an accident but the proverbial "cooler heads" prevailed and prevented the military from retaliating. All I know is there was a 10 minute window when someone could have done something and thankfully didn't. I'm glad. Really and truly am.

But, to me this is a major issue that was either a perfect example that the billions we are spending on security might as well just be thrown in the trash or something far more insidious. I doubt we'll ever know which it is.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

They pushed a button that sent out messages to various local agencies (and to national level non-military agencies like FEMA.

I'm sure that if the alert reached NORAD (or whatever its called these days), they checked their radars and saw it was nothing.

Strictly a local snafu by non-military people. Its major effect has been to scare people. Since this plays into the hands of the warmongers, I doubt anyone gets punished for this. (The people who need punishing are the idiots who designed a system where one mouse click can set off this result.)

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@arendt Unfortunately, I haven't had as much time to spend with the news lately, but I sure saw a lot of OMG Missile Warning!!! without the follow up as to what happened. So bad on me for assumptions. Still, that's a rather convenient "oopsie!"

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

... In his first year in office, President Barack Obama gave a landmark address in Prague in which he famously affirmed “clearly and with conviction America’s commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons.” The commitment to total nuclear disarmament was a major departure from the George W. Bush administration — the first time, in fact, that the United States had declared a nuclear-free world a major policy goal.

Now, eight years later, it’s the Trump administration’s turn to lay out its nuclear weapons policy. And according to a pre-decisional draft of the 2018 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) obtained by HuffPost, Trump’s Department of Defense has gone a decidedly different route: new nukes, for no good reason. ...

Obama just wanted everyone else to get rid of their nukes.

So, are Trump's demands for new nukes on top of what Obama demanded for new nukes? And requiring more testing, no doubt? Perhaps on various long-targeted countries around the world

Damn good article following, seriously needs to be read in full at source, if at all possible.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/elliott-negin/on-the-a-bombs-70th-anniv_b...

08/07/2015 09:48 am ET Updated Dec 06, 2017

On the A-Bomb’s 70th Anniversary, Obama Wants to Spend a Trillion Dollars on New Nuclear Weapons
By Elliott Negin

News organizations love anniversary stories, and if for some reason you haven’t heard, it’s the 70th anniversary of when the United States dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. The first exploded over Hiroshima on August 6, and the second over Nagasaki on August 9.

Not surprisingly, there’s been a proliferation of print and broadcast stories on the making of the bomb, the politics of the bomb, the dropping of the bomb, the survivors of the bomb — you name it. The Washington Post even ran a story about a 390-year-old Japanese white pine now in the U.S. National Arboretum that survived the Hiroshima blast.

Despite all this coverage, however, I didn’t notice any stories that bothered to mention the fact that the Obama administration wants the U.S. government to spend as much as $1 trillion over the next three decades on a new generation of nuclear warheads, bombers, submarines and intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). ...

...the Obama administration has apparently forgotten that Obama called for putting an “end to Cold War thinking” during that Prague speech. Remarkably, the administration is proposing that the U.S. government spend $1 trillion over the next 30 years to refurbish or replace the current nuclear arsenal. ...

...While the Energy Department is counting on funding for new warhead designs, the Defense Department is queuing up for new nuclear bombers, cruise missiles and submarines.

The Air Force wants a new stealth plane, dubbed the Long Range Strike Bomber, or B-3 bomber for short, that can reach targets deep inside Russia and China. The Air Force would like 80 to 100 of them at an estimated cost of $550 million each. Loren Thompson, an executive at the defense contractor-funded Lexington Institute, estimates the plane will more likely cost $900 million per plane, after factoring in inflation and a $20-billion research and development program to figure out its design. ...

...David Wright, co-director of UCS’s Global Security Program, spelled them out in a July blog post:

The president should take U.S. land-based missiles off hair-trigger alert and remove options from U.S. war plans to launch nuclear weapons based on warning of an attack. This option has led to the increased risk of a nuclear launch a disturbing number of times in past decades, and has been called for by high-level military and political officials — including President Obama.

He should also declare a policy of “sole purpose,” that is, make it U.S. policy that the only use for its nuclear weapons is to deter, and if necessary respond to, a nuclear attack. Today, the United States reserves the option to use nuclear weapons first.

[Finally,] he should require that the United States not develop new nuclear weapons, but instead refurbish U.S. warheads as they age to keep the U.S. deterrent credible. Currently the administration is proposing a new, untested warhead design that may lead to pressure on a future administration to restart nuclear testing. A resumption of testing would undermine the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty as well as the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. ...

So, is Trump adding more to this trillion, or just shoveling the same load of "TPTB want the world, they want it now, and they'll blow it up if they don't get their own way."?

Edited to add the 2015 date I somehow missed copy-pasting, when Obama was eager to nuke Russia and China, before the propaganda was even being pushed to generate public enthusiasm for the mass murder of the world of life.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.