It's time to be afraid of Chinese hackers

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 11:30am

You can take a moment to stop trembling at the idea of Russians under your bed, and start being terrified of Chinese in your closet!

In a shocking report, sources say Hillary Clinton’s private server was hacked by a Chinese-owned company throughout her tenure as Secretary of State, allowing the company to have access to virtually all her emails.
Two sources informed The Daily Caller News Foundation (DCNF) that a Washington, D.C., area firm received a “courtesy copy” of Clinton’s emails that was created by a code embedded in the server.

There had been rumors that Clinton’s emails had been sent outside the United States; in July, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) told a House Committee on the judiciary hearing that the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) discovered nearly all of Clinton’s emails had been received by a “foreign entity.”

A former intelligence officer said investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan kept telling the FBI officials that the Chinese had penetrated Clinton’s emails. The Daily Caller writes that one of those FBI officials was Peter Strzok, the FBI’s top counterintelligence official.

Exactly who didn't hack Hillary's email server?
How long will it be before we find out that China hacked our election?

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Submitted by mhagle on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 1:19pm

This isn't probably your point, but yes, I am afraid of Chinese

hackers.

I don't sit around and tremble about it personally, but I have no doubt that the skill level of hackers in China probably blows the rest of the world away. Why? Because they quickly embraced Linux and have their own distributions.

Folks in the U.S. generally speaking are technological dopes, as most have relied on Microsoft and Apple. And now stupid social media makes it worse.

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Submitted by doh1304 on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 2:45pm

I've always feared Chinese hackers

The Russians have always stolen money, and only money. But China has no breathable air, no drinkable water, and no arable soil. They are only waiting for the famines and epidemics and choking to start, and they're way too smart to just wait. And unlike Russia, when the tropics become too hot to live in they will face mass migration.
And all they'll have are US IOUs, a bunch of kalishnikov knockoffs, and a half billion men. The future ain't rocket science.

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Submitted by QMS on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 3:01pm

Always thought chinese checkers were

@doh1304 about as scary as tic tac toe. Maybe I'm getting Ma Jong confused again? Or was it Confucius? It's just too hot to think straight. Let's see: What do you get when you cross a red bear with a yellow dragon? I doubt the orange baby will be seeing green.

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Submitted by mhagle on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 3:17pm

LOL

@QMS

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Submitted by mhagle on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 3:18pm

Damn scary

@doh1304

Putting it that way . . . yeah . . . scary . . .

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Submitted by CB on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 6:34pm

Where did you get that information

@doh1304
about China from? I sure would like to see your sources because it goes against everything I understand about China and I have been following developments in that country for upwards of three decades.

China has made tremendous strides in improving air quality and land reclamation/use in the last 5-10 years.

Air quality in San Francisco far worse than Beijing China

Americans are now breathing far worse air than those in Beijing, China, as the world turns
By Intellihub.com - August 24, 2018

Air quality in San Francisco has worsened as wildfires continue to plague the state of California creating a level of toxic air far worse that of even Beijing, China, statistics show.
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In comparison, the air quality in Beijing, China is quite better with an index number of 71, meaning the air is “good.”

I am old enough to have personally lived through the eye/nose stinging smogs and highly polluted stinking rivers in America during the 1950's when the country was the world's manufacturing giant.

American Lung Association finds California Has 6 of Top 10 Worst Cities for Smog in America - 2017

China is doing way more than the US in forest and arable land reclamation as well as water conservation.

China to invest heavily in major water conservation projects

China will start 15 new major water conservation projects in 2017 amid efforts to boost investment and stabilize growth, the country's top economic planner said Monday.

Total investment in major water projects under construction should exceed 900 billion yuan ($131.3 billion) by the end of this year, compared with the current level of 800 billion yuan, said Wu Xiao, an official with the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), at a conference.

In 2016, 21 major water projects were started.

China Reforestation: Planting a Forest the Size of Ireland to Become World Leader in Conservation
By: Nidhi Goyal | January 27th, 2018

Since President Trump’s announcement last year that the U.S. would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, the world no longer looks to America for leadership on climate change.

China has seized the opportunity to be a leader in conservation by taking some bold steps to mitigate the impact of climate change.

Recently, the government of China has announced plans to plant 6.6 million hectares of forest this year — that’s an area roughly the size of Ireland.

The massive reforestation project is planned for the Hebei Province in Northern China, Qinghai Province in the Tibetan Plateau, and the Hunshandake Desert in the Inner Mongolia region.

China has regularly been named as the world’s biggest polluter, but the country has started investing heavily in improving the environment after it declared a national emergency over pollution in 2014. Reforestation is one of the initiatives in the war on pollution.
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Submitted by Deja on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 11:09pm

Thank you!

@CB
I was wondering if maybe it was snark. China put a stop to taking our contaminated garbage we try to call sorted recycling. They are more picky now about what they accept.

And that's just one aspect of that odd comment.

#2 about China from? I sure would like to see your sources because it goes against everything I understand about China and I have been following developments in that country for upwards of three decades. China has made tremendous strides in improving air quality and land reclamation/use in the last 5-10 years. Air quality in San Francisco far worse than Beijing China Americans are now breathing far worse air than those in Beijing, China, as the world turns By Intellihub.com - August 24, 2018 Air quality in San Francisco has worsened as wildfires continue to plague the state of California creating a level of toxic air far worse that of even Beijing, China, statistics show. ... In comparison, the air quality in Beijing, China is quite better with an index number of 71, meaning the air is “good.” I am old enough to have personally lived through the eye/nose stinging smogs and highly polluted stinking rivers in America during the 1950's when the country was the world's manufacturing giant. American Lung Association finds California Has 6 of Top 10 Worst Cities for Smog in America - 2017 China is doing way more than the US in forest and arable land reclamation as well as water conservation. China to invest heavily in major water conservation projects China will start 15 new major water conservation projects in 2017 amid efforts to boost investment and stabilize growth, the country's top economic planner said Monday. Total investment in major water projects under construction should exceed 900 billion yuan ($131.3 billion) by the end of this year, compared with the current level of 800 billion yuan, said Wu Xiao, an official with the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), at a conference. In 2016, 21 major water projects were started. China Reforestation: Planting a Forest the Size of Ireland to Become World Leader in Conservation By: Nidhi Goyal | January 27th, 2018 Since President Trump’s announcement last year that the U.S. would withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, the world no longer looks to America for leadership on climate change. China has seized the opportunity to be a leader in conservation by taking some bold steps to mitigate the impact of climate change. Recently, the government of China has announced plans to plant 6.6 million hectares of forest this year — that’s an area roughly the size of Ireland. The massive reforestation project is planned for the Hebei Province in Northern China, Qinghai Province in the Tibetan Plateau, and the Hunshandake Desert in the Inner Mongolia region. China has regularly been named as the world’s biggest polluter, but the country has started investing heavily in improving the environment after it declared a national emergency over pollution in 2014. Reforestation is one of the initiatives in the war on pollution. ...

Submitted by CB on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 6:56pm

Here's Beijing this year

@doh1304

How did Beijing clean up its air?
January 25, 2018

This winter, save a few grey days, the sky over Beijing has been a brilliant blue, suggesting the city may finally be making progress against air pollution – an issue so dire in previous years that some periods were dubbed an “airpocalypse”.

The Ministry of Environmental Protection said that six cities in northern China reported falls in PM2.5 haze of at least 40% compared with a year earlier, including Beijing where the average PM2.5 level dropped by two-thirds (PM2.5 refers to hazardous particles with a diameter of less than 2.5 micrometers that can be inhaled into the lungs).

President Xi Jinping had reiterated that China would keep up its years-long battle against smog to ensure “blue skies” and promote a “revolution” in clean energy at the opening ceremony of the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October, reported Reuters.

Improving the notoriously toxic air across the northern regions of the world’s second-largest economy has been a cornerstone of Beijing’s economic and social policy in recent years.
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And YES, there is considerable work yet to be done. But, unlike the US, China is pumping hundreds of billions into ameliorating the problem. China is now #1 in wind and solar energy as well as electric vehicles. How much is the US investing?

Submitted by mhagle on Wed, 08/29/2018 - 1:30pm

I see China as surpassing the USA on so many levels

@CB

Not sure about the human rights stuff, but everything else is so far beyond us. Greening the desert, high-speed rail, renewable energy, technology. I wonder what is happening in education, healthcare, affordable housing, the happiness index?

They are greening the desert as we are destroying our farmlands.

Shit.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 08/29/2018 - 3:34pm

Human rights and the USA

@mhagle
is a pretty low bar. Globally, the US has one of the worst human rights record in history.
I believe the most important human right is the right to life. If you don't have that right then the rest are pretty much useless.

At least China has stopped the mass killings since Mao's time. Meanwhile, the US continues unabated.

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million In 37 Nations Since WWII

After the catastrophic attacks of September 11 2001 monumental sorrow and a feeling of desperate and understandable anger began to permeate the American psyche. A few people at that time attempted to promote a balanced perspective by pointing out that the United States had also been responsible for causing those same feelings in people in other nations, but they produced hardly a ripple. Although Americans understand in the abstract the wisdom of people around the world empathizing with the suffering of one another, such a reminder of wrongs committed by our nation got little hearing and was soon overshadowed by an accelerated “war on terrorism.”

But we must continue our efforts to develop understanding and compassion in the world. Hopefully, this article will assist in doing that by addressing the question “How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” This theme is developed in this report which contains an estimated numbers of such deaths in 37 nations as well as brief explanations of why the U.S. is considered culpable.

The causes of wars are complex. In some instances nations other than the U.S. may have been responsible for more deaths, but if the involvement of our nation appeared to have been a necessary cause of a war or conflict it was considered responsible for the deaths in it. In other words they probably would not have taken place if the U.S. had not used the heavy hand of its power. The military and economic power of the United States was crucial.
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Submitted by mhagle on Wed, 08/29/2018 - 4:02pm

Grim

@CB

Grim and sad.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 3:27pm

Chinese don't need to hack. We will sell it to them.

If memory serves, the hacking of the 20 million of so US federal workers involved at an early point, the outsourcing of the maintenance of the database to a Chinese company. China for a long time has been buying up American technology and companies. If they can't hack it, they can buy it.

I vaguely remember there was a sort of near future movie in which the plot was based on the Chinese taking control of the US military because most of the electronics used by the Pentagon was made in China. Sorta came and went. Some pundit noted that the US looks like an economic colony of China.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 3:30pm

Battlestar Galactica?

@MrWebster

I vaguely remember there was a sort of near future movie in which the plot was based on the Chinese taking control of the US military because most of the electronics used by the Pentagon was made in China.

Just guessing.

Submitted by CB on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 6:39pm

Meh... They can only buy it if you are selling it

@MrWebster
Most of the new tech developed in the US is taxpayer funded through the military or universities. Any breakthroughs accrue to individuals or corporations who can then sell it privately to the highest bidder and get rich.

Ain't America great!

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 08/29/2018 - 6:51pm

used to be great

@CB at least in our imaginations. Not so much anymore. We are now able to see the rest of the world without the filters. And we don't look so pretty anymore. In comparison. Anyhow.

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Submitted by Deja on Tue, 08/28/2018 - 11:21pm

Our best buds in the ME sold our stuff to China

@MrWebster
Military secrets, that is, iirc. Sold some military stuff (plane tires I think they called it at the time) to South Africa when most of the world refused to do business with them due to that little apartheid thing, as well.

No one needs to steal it is so true!