It's the 80's all over again.

I'm playing Battletech, Star Wars is in Theaters, and the president hates the poor and wants them to die. We want to go to war with Russia, and The US is busy laughing at the idiots who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. The poor have it extremely rough, but the vast majority of people don't even acknowledge their presence.

It's the 80s all over again.

I feel like Johnny trying to explain to the kids what happened back in the past and how it REALLY happened, not the bullshit story that the media wants to sell you.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZxhX_nOoiQ]

Hell, we've even got the same damn politicians, minus those that had the decency to die and no longer inflict their greed, hypocrisy and cruelty on the rest of us. They're holding nice little hearings, while the bombs drop, we vilify the Middle East, and keep dreaming of the ultimate super weapon to end the cold war.

Yes, this sketch also runs through my head every time I think of the US Military. It's a question we need to be asking ourselves.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU]

So, yeah, we've even got the modern equivalent of Reagan in the White House. That in particular I keep having to explain to young kids, because all pop culture wants to remember about the Reagans is a guest shot on Webster and Just Say No. Oh and Just Say No is making a come back, and now has the rough double standard of saying that Drugs are Bad because they're illegal... and legal drugs are bad too, unless they're made by big Pharma... (Yes, infinitely more obviously hypocritical.)

Course it's not all the same. I admit I like the 90's Star Wars Better than the 80s, so my opinion of the new movies is definitely tainted by that. Battletech now can OPENLY have the LGBTQ characters that they had to Hays Code for the exact same reasons that Hollywood had to code their characters. And Reagan at least had the decency to pretend to give a shit.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn3dCIJ91Nw]

The question to me is if the kids are gonna listen. Mine seem to be, and I have hope in a lot of them. Of course, the media and politicians are going to try to coopt them into throwing their energy away... So with that in mind, here's a video about what I use to cope, and a piece of music that fits the mood.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtGYKjrnII]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20aMVSdZu3Y]

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Bisbonian's picture

Who are those guys?

My exposure to the 80's was actually rather limited. I graduated from High School, spent a year trying to learn FORTRAN while waiting tables, and then ended up locked into the Colorado School for Wayward Boys for 4 years, pilot training for another year, and then exile to North Dakota (NORTHERN North Dakota) for the next seven years. I started hearing Talking heads and such some time in the 90's, and thought, how did I miss this?

So I probably missed a lot of comedy, too.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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@Bisbonian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_and_Webb

And yeah, they're great, and totally my Generation.

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@detroitmechworks is listening to these two Nazis talk in a British accent.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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@Bisbonian I mean, I have noticed that many US and Israeli military units use Reapers, Skulls, and Numerous other very... nasty icons.

I think... we might be the baddies here.

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@detroitmechworks  
Israeli military? The T-shirt controversy from 2009:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960071.stm

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@lotlizard I would also say that the names we call our "enemies", gooks, ragheads, sand n****** add another dimension to the question.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

Reagan actually raised taxes in 1982. Republicans hadn't gone entirely insane yet.
The Democrats hasn't completely sold out the working class yet.
Labor unions still had power.
We hadn't deindustrialized yet.
Wealth inequality was much less of a problem.

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@gjohnsit On poor people.

Sigh...
But yeah, worse than the 80's I can see. And we're only in the first couple years of this.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWME4d1BRCk]

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@gjohnsit Also, it was possible to be a Republican, even, and still support both environmentalism and peace.

One big difference: we actually had a political system back then. Not a very good one, but a political system.

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Except this time, instead of the Satanic Panic, we've got the Cuck or Racist Panic. If you saw a movie and liked it (Ghostbusters, Star Wars, Black Panther), you're a cuck. If you didn't go see it or didn't like it for any reason, you're a racist/sexist. Hell, even Cobra Kai adoped the Injustice Collector/Red Pill/Alpha bullshit to some degree as demonstrated when Johnny told the kid why he picked on Daniel.

I've deleted every social media account I had, save this one and my email because of this crap. People are whining about the stupidest shit while the world is burning, decent jobs have gone the way of the dodo, and the idiots insist on blaming the victims.

We really don't have anywhere to go.

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Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@The Aspie Corner Haven't seen any Marvel Movies since "Winter Soldier" and other than a few cartoons I have pretty much given up. I find I'm enjoying independent, local and accessible artists more than the big stuff.

Reason I liked Cobra Kai so much was that it portrayed a flawed person who was wrong, but was capable of getting better and learning from his mistakes. He's never going to feel that he was in the wrong in "The Karate Kid" but he finally was able to move on from it and do better. (Sorry, first show that I've seen in a long time that really spoke to me and I admit it's probably because I was a blonde kid from California in the 80s at the time... we were dumb as shit sometimes.)

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@detroitmechworks ...and I wound up binge watching the entire season. I loved it!

Maybe because I was a blonde CA kid too...Riverside, circa 78-79:

Funny coincidence that you and I are neighbors once again, in Portland Wink

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@ChezJfrey So far. I worry that the jerks are following me. Smile

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@detroitmechworks I believe Portland was only urban center Reagan did NOT win. However, still won state.

But more important than the electoral victories, Reagan became the god-father of the new democratic party that went full speed under Clinton.

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@ChezJfrey The final episode felt a bit too much of a tone shift, especially near the end. (Yes, I know they were setting up for the second Season, which is coming next year.)

Another thing I really liked about the series was how it portrayed bullying. I know from experience with my children it is the "Popular" kids who do it. They delight in tormenting kids with that "You can't PROVE I did it" smirk. Unfortunately the system seems designed to stop people from confronting their problems directly. The scene with Johnny getting maced and arrested for defending a bullying victim struck me as the most realistic scene ever in sports movie. (Let's be honest, the Karate Kid IS a sports movie.)

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@detroitmechworks @detroitmechworks @detroitmechworks We could have long conversations! So much "real"...and yeah, there was a bunch of "cheese," also, but even that brought chuckles; I thought there was a good amount of well thought out writing.

You mention the efforts to disallow direct confrontation, and that scene with the school admin, basically making everything worse for the future "Hawk" was a classic...addressing everyone, essentially identifying and describing to a "T" for everyone to know, and "everyone please stop and respect, OK?" as somehow a plan to "fix" anything, certainly reflects the useless, weak tactics of how current schools deal was fitting. I've seen myself, with what my kids have described for me, that schools avoid action in bully situations these days, instead suggesting weak words will suffice as solution.

Daniel doesn't want his kids to become rich, entitled, spoiled brats...um, have you checked out your son? Denial much?

Daniel's comments to Robby toward the end of the final episode, about "fighting with honor," was rich, coming from a guy who has spent the entire season, using his power, wealth and influence, to crush Johnny's endeavors, without regard for anyone else...such as the rent thing that even his wife called him out on that one. Johnny's spiel to the council, a heartfelt plea, with what we later find to be backed by a fair amount of truth Johnny could relate to these kids, and Daniel still shouting BS, harboring a 30+ year old grudge, using his pull, attempting to defeat Johnny's project...honor, indeed. He won't allow any chance for any sort of scenario that Johnny might be able to prove things might have changed for the better, and only his rear-view look at his own reality is what will forever be the truth.

As for that cheese, I turned into a metal-head, but still have a soft spot for bands like REO...used to play that 8 track all the time, back then, and that comment in the car had me laughing..."what kind of man doesn't." LOL

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@ChezJfrey When the kid was obviously too damaged to compete, yet Daniel put up only the slightest resistance to sending him back out after a medic had told him that he'd be in pain for weeks. That's incredibly short sighted, and as my SO mentioned,

"You will look back and realize that this is when you gained the superpower to tell when it's going to rain."

Even the set up for the second season has Daniel refusing to accept defeat, and instead plotting revenge. Honestly, it almost feels like the old Sasaki Kojiro/Miamoto Musashi duel, at least in feel, style and archetypes. Of Course, Musashi Won, and he was by far the more working class and "rough and tumble" of the two, so I'm hoping for a repeat of that narrative. Smile

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Even the set up for the second season has Daniel refusing to accept defeat, and instead plotting revenge.

I read a good review here: https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/cobra-kai-review-youtube/

The guy "gets it."

Something deeper is at work, though, an element most critics of the series have missed.

Cobra Kai’s tenants of strike hard, strike fast and no mercy are ugly to some but bear hard-learned truths of life to the bully victims and misfits who come to Lawrence’s dojo. These are already hard rules of life. The dojo is a chance to turn the odds, and many are quick to adopt.

One autistic kid, who barely speaks and has a cleft lip, takes a heap of verbal abuse from Lawrence, but comes back with a mohawk, a bad attitude and makes the semifinals of the karate tournament. He also resorts to a horrible cheapshot and injures his opponent.

The bully coin has flipped.

It’s there, after Lawrence has his heart ripped out by his son, and he gives an impassioned and pained speech to his students about what “No Mercy” means in the dojo’s code: Life will always kick you when you’re up or down, and to have a chance, compassion is a death knell.

By the start of the tournament he realizes his mistake. Watching this play out on Zabka’s face, while he recognizes he has taught Diaz the wrong lessons about life, karate and martial arts – just as happened to him – is a masterwork.

Even when Daniel catches Johnny's reaction to the "cheap shot," in the end, he still refuses to allow Johnny's possible redemption, success, or allow once again, any "good deed for Johnny to go unpunished" (his sticking up for the bullied meets police mace, tackle, arrest...his dojo to encourage and maybe help the bullied, etc.). Daniel refuses to recognize all his family and he is doing to punish a downtrodden Johnny and allow him to achieve some semblance of success and meaning (Daniel's family twice destroys Johnny's property, continually trying to block his dojo, at the expense of all other mall proprietors, kids/students it might help, etc.) Johnny must never succeed, is all that matters to Daniel, regardless of anything Johnny might be able to salvage of his own life, or that of others, similarly downtrodden, and any lessons they might be able to learn or how to cope at the hands of a cruel world; Daniel has now become a cog, helping to perpetuate that cruelty and won't relinquish.

Neither is Lawrence’s flawed by well meaning way of training. He’s a man falling apart with only his students and a mix of good and bad lessons. Grasping to save his life and make something of it and save the relationships within it.

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then chances are it isn't important.
Bernie said something a few months ago that I thought was brilliant. He said the degree of importance that an issue had was inversely proportional to how much press it gets. (paraphrased)

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@gjohnsit

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

batshit loony islamic extremists because at the moment they're the enemies of some people who might stand in the way of our middle east hegemony.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd And most of the people who whine about ISIS and refugees can't seem to make that connection. That, and they flat out just don't give a shit that we're the ones destroying their countries and local economies.

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@UntimelyRippd Of course now we are supposed to simultaneously love and hate middle eastern people depending on whether or not we're shipping them guns.

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It's like deja vue all over again ....

San Francisco’s Progressive Mayoral Candidate Jane Kim

She was interviewed about the increase of homelessness. This fact was stunning:

I talk about this a lot, but there was a time in our country when HUD [Housing and Urban Development]’s budget was larger than that of the Department of Defense. In the mid-twentieth century between 1940 and 1980, the federal government built close to 6,000 units of subsidized housing in San Francisco, and close to 200,000 in New York City – 176,000 in New York City. In the 1970s, at our peak, we had more public housing than people on the waitlist. And homelessness was not a crisis on our streets. It was really limited – we used to house people very rapidly.

{in Utah the wait list for public housing and housing vouchers are over two years long and the conditions of the apartments I viewed should have seen them condemned not being rented out}

When Reagan decided to start cutting HUD’s funding – along with passing the most sweeping tax cuts on the richest individuals and corporations – and actually look it up online, HUD’s budget going down between 1980 and 2002 [is correlated to] homelessness emerging as a crisis on our streets and in our cities starting in 1980s. So [subsidized] housing is absolutely the solution to homelessness. Because Reagan was all about smaller government, government should do less and the market should do more, but the market simply will never [take] care of housing the poor and working class. It doesn’t pencil out. Why would you go into a business that’s not profitable? So I just think housing is one of those goods that should also be a public asset – both public and private sectors should be building housing.

Reagan's trickle down economics has been proven to be bullshit, yet congress still tried to sell this to us when they passed their tax bill.

I just read these two articles about Russia Gate and why it's being pushed so hard and why it's not going to go away. I highly recommend reading both articles.

Past a point of no return: “Russiagate” and the reorientation of U.S. imperialism

What we are witnessing is two convergent phenomena coming together, running in parallel but now intersecting. One is a profound, political civil war going on within the summits of the capitalist political establishment, the ruling class centers of power in the intelligence agencies. The second is a qualitative re-orientation of U.S. foreign policy and the gearing up for “major power” conflict with Russia and China as the targets. The goal of this foreign/military re-orientation is to apply severe pressure of all types on Russia and China with four identifiable goals: 1) to encircle Russia, weaken it economically and hem it in on all sides, 2) to compete with China for dominance in Asia, which is now the most dynamic part of the world economy, 3) to weaken or end the alliance that China and Russia have forged in recent years, and 4) to carry out regime change in China and Russia.

Russiagate, the new McCarthyism

Accusing Russia of influencing the U.S. elections came at the moment that Wikileaks was about to reveal her 50,000 emails that exposed the Democrats’ manipulation to keep Bernie Sanders from winning the nomination.

Post-election, the Democrats were vociferous in their accusations against Russia in Congressional hearings, yet they surrendered completely to the Republicans and Trump on DACA and many other issues. By conflating Trump with Russia, they hope it can propel them back into the Democratic majority in Congress and the White House.

Russiagate has become a new weapon of the ruling class, with daily and more unfounded accusations, to divert people from seeing the real danger: the military buildup against Russia and China, the continuing U.S. war against Syria, and threats to Iran and the DPRK.

There is no proof of Russian government hacking into the U.S. voter databases to influence the elections, none at all.

People who have bought into the Russia Gate propaganda are going to give their permission for this country to go to war with Russia even though it's total bull crap that Herheinous made up when she was going to be exposed as someone who had to cheat to win the primary. We know that if Trump was the one who was spreading Russia Gate propaganda after he lost to Herheinous her supporters would be laughing their little blue butts over it because it's just too stupid to believe. And as they love to tell us, Hillary received 3 million more votes than Trump did. But she only lost because Russia spent $100,000 on Facebook ads that a few said something bad about her. Well the ones that were placed before the election. Most of them were placed after Trump had already won. This is how silly Russia Gate is. But people believe it.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg Of course, I'm totally a Russian agent if I say that.

Sigh... I was going to say all that's missing are the Jingoistic Movies that promote war to the kiddies... but then I remembered that kids don't watch movies and the PTB are promoting war with Russia in the places they are spending time...

Which is why I monitor my kids video game preferences heavily.

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So, yeah, we've even got the modern equivalent of Reagan in the White House.

Well, the thing is, Reagan never left office.

Let's look at the list of Presidents since Reagan:

H.W. Bush: Weak Reagan
Clinton: Jazz Reagan
W Bush: Dumb Reagan
Obama: Black Reagan
Trump: Orange Reagan

Reagan is basically a ghost that haunts the White House. He floats around and possesses the next President.

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@Strife Delivery That actually sounds like an awesome working class song to write...

"You can't kill a ghost, so remember them right."

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More people can't afford houses, more people aren't working at a living wage, we're all under constant involuntary and unwarranted mass surveillance, and our government is legally allowed to murder and torture people. Also, the idea of "wartime" and "peacetime" has been retired, and it seems to me that the music is worse.

Otherwise, yeah, pretty much.

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