#IowaCaucus 2020 Open Thread
No live open thread?
Ok, here goes:
First round results of the Des Moines Iowa Caucus is in.#CaucusForBernie pic.twitter.com/oZPCJkCEUw
— Students For Bernie (@Students_Bernie) February 3, 2020
In my darker moments I reflect on the fact that caring about politics is a mental illness, kind of—what it is is essentially a mad and desperate search for a sense of control.
It’s to feel like you have some sort of say over what’s going to happen, even though deep down in your darkest heart you know it’s not true. You know that you are totally at the whims of history and fate, the machinations of man and beast, and that you have very little say about where you end up. Politics is a way to feel like, “maybe I can influence it.”
For the most part that’s what it is, a big displacement of one’s sense of helplessness. And that goes beyond caring about politics, it goes to voting, to being involved and everything, because it really is an illusion — politics really is beyond us for the most part. Huge forces like capitalism shape things beyond a scale that we could ever even comprehend because we’re so small.
But — and I’ve been trying to fight against this for a year now because I don’t want to lose my way, I don’t want to get stars in my eyes — but I cannot get over this feeling, even when I’m feeling at my darkest and most pessimistic, that this is a moment that is the beginning of a chance to actually get closer to putting your hand somewhere close to the levers of destiny. Not with this election, not with this primary, not even with Bernie getting in — that’s just the opening of the door. You have to step through and you have to walk.
But I really feel like that if we have an ability as a species to come together in a common recognition of humanity, that this is maybe our last chance to do it.
But we might actually be able to.Matt Christman, Chapo Trap House, January 30, 2020
Phil Donahue: Are you a capitalist?
Bernie Sanders: 'No I am not a capitalist...do I believe that the profit motive is fundamental to human nature? The answer is no. I (believe in) the spirit of cooperation, that you & I can work together...rather than destroy eachother'
1981. pic.twitter.com/ANesbyz2OM
— Aisha Ahmad (@aishaismad) January 30, 2020
“I think being on this planet, one of the first things people would say if we were all dumped down here is - let us say there were only ten of us and we were dropped into this planet already formed - one of the first things we would say after a moment or two will be, ‘is everybody okay?’ let's get
something to eat.’And that should be the first thing any society says, ‘Is everybody? Ok, let's get something to eat. And we don't, because we have this ‘private property’ thing. Property rights over people's rights.
And I just think that competition got the upper hand over cooperation. This species was successful. The verge of failure that we’re on is because two wonderful qualities that made us a successful species, cooperation and competition, are way out of balance now. Competition is everything.
Cooperation happens after a flood; happens for a few days and then everybody goes back to where they were before.
We need to get that balance back. If we can get that balance back, there’s hope.”
George Carlin, 1992
Occupy Wall Street put a spotlight on rising inequality in the U.S. and mounted a challenge against the country’s financial and political elites. https://t.co/zx2De1xWj9
— Truthout (@truthout) February 3, 2020
A decade after the emergence of Occupy Wall Street – which put a spotlight on rising inequality in the U.S. and mounted a challenge against this country’s financial and political elites — it would be easy, but wrong, to see a news segment like CBS’s as Occupy’s most lasting achievement. In promoting the story on Twitter, CBS referenced the “1 percent,” adopting Occupy’s framing. And the tone of the segment was significantly more sympathetic to activists’ central critique than coverage of the movement was at the time.
Occupy “changed the conversation,” as the saying goes. For years after the movement was violently suppressed, that explanation seemed sufficient. Now, after a decade of some of the most vibrant and exciting social movements in a generation, it’s clear that the organized left is doing much more than changing the rhetoric used by mainstream news outlets...
The rallying cry in Zuccotti Park and in encampments around the country was “all our grievances are connected.” The movement was always committed to a structural critique — and ultimately a rejection — of capitalism. Occupy activists insisted that to talk about environmental justice, and workers’ rights, and universal health care was really to be talking about different aspects of the same thing. In order to address these problems, it was necessary, if not sufficient, to name capitalism as the system linking other forms of oppression and exploitation.
That critique has gone from the fringe to the mainstream. Young people especially feel negatively about capitalism and positively about socialism. Tireless organizing has continued to give teeth to the rhetoric, as the last decade also saw some of the most exciting social movements in a generation. From The Fight For 15, to the Movement for Black Lives, to efforts to decriminalize sex work, to MeToo, to Standing Rock, to the disability-activist-led fight to defeat the repeal of Obamacare, to environmental justice and the Women’s Marches, people have organized and taken to the street to demand dignity, equality and a future worth living. Each of these movements have lineages separate and distinct from Occupy, but they exist alongside each other in a mosaic of collective struggle...
By the time Occupy arose, that mindset was still prevalent but starting to change. After the inability of the anti-war movement in 2003 to prevent the invasion of Iraq, many activists became more willing to at least consider the need to engage in electoral politics. With the resurgence of socialism as a guiding philosophy of the left, rather than the anti-consumerism and “conscious consumerism” that absorbed so much energy and attention in the ’90s, the left is no longer content to unilaterally withdraw from the halls of power. All that is to say the left hasn’t given up its outside game, but much of it is finally willing to play an inside game as well.
In 2016, many veterans of Occupy flocked to Bernie Sanders’s campaign. Here was a candidate who had fought for many of the same things as their movement. Although Sanders has faced critiques from the left, including from Black Lives Matter activists in 2015, and for his vote for the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, his many supporters on the left say the senator and those around him are receptive to good faith criticisms. “Bernie’s criminal justice platform responds to the demands of a movement that has been in the streets for the last five years,” Philip Agnew, an activist with the Movement for Black Lives and a Sanders surrogate, said in a recent interview. “His criminal justice platform is an amazing example of a campaign that is responsive to a movement, in a way that Sanders rarely gets credit for.”
That’s one of the reasons many veterans of Occupy and other activists such as those energized by U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the vision of the Green New Deal have celebrated Sanders’s rise, and his refusal to play the respectability game by distancing himself from the label of democratic socialist. He embraced that label, and his rise in 2016 — as well as the national trauma of the Trump campaign and ultimate victory — drove an explosion of leftist recruitment, primarily by the Democratic Socialists of America.
#CapitalismKills
#SocialismSaves
Live coverage:
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The Michael Brooks Show
Comments
Folks, I'm so jacked up I don't know which way to turn...
May wind up at a DSA comrade's apartment soon after I feed the kids.
But I know for sure I'll be monitoring several different sites and livestreams.
Speaking of which Ryan Grim from the Intercept was reporting live from Drake University where the totals were just reported as: 5 delegates for Bernie, 2 for Liz, and 0 for anybody else.
If that becomes a trend Bernie is looking at a massive blowout.
Don't want to get carried away. I'm jittery here typing, on lack of sleep, etc. But just wanted to kick this thing off.
I can't put into words adequately what this moment is turning out to be for me. I tried these past few days but couldn't quite get there.
Hope to see you all later.
Lots of love, comrades!
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Me too!!!
I'm starting a puzzle and putting on a sitcom to try to calm my nerves because I'm sweating spinal fluid over here.
No way
Bernie isn't going to dominate like that.
It'll be closer than that.
Agreed
Biden will get a delegate, somewhere, maybe even two. There have to be precincts dominated by seniors that haven't heard his positions on Social Security.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
That’s just Des Moines
I had the same reaction until I looked closer.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
That was just a Des Moines early first round estimate
The doors arent even closed yet. People can still come in.
And Biden has zero supporters in Des Moines? This sounds silly.
Some bits...
Just gotta love that classic, I-gotta-be-somewhere, NY lope...
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Mark have you seen this tweet?
This guy needs to switch careers.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I love Matt Stoller.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
money hurdle?
Frankly, I don't think those ads are hurdles for Bernie; I think that they'll prove to be free publicity instead.
Bernie's enemies' money will help elect him.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Go Bernard!!
That is all.
Carry on.
Reminds me of caucusing for him in 2016. Felt good, and he took Minnesota by a huge margin.
(Edited)
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
"Now This News" interviewing people waiting on lines to get in
Fascinating...
Iowa Caucus Results 2020 | LIVE | NowThis
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Please names of live results
sites or links please. And thank you for this. I'll be checking back.
Put some links at the end of the essay
and will update as I come upon more...
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Nina Turner just called out Bloomberg as an "oligarch" on MSNBC
One of the talking head panelists, a guy from The Root, got very bothered and admonished her for comparing him to some billionaire in Russia. Bloomberg is just a rich guy, he argued. That doesn't mean he abuses his power from money, he ranted. Bernie people don't realize that they will need the votes and the money of the billionaires. The guy actually said stuff along those lines. They've realized Biden is kaput and they either don't want Warren and/or she's fizzled out too.
Well?
....
Seems like case closed to me
Oops wrong tweet. I'll be back with the right one.
The lady who interviewed Brianna made it seem like Bernie was losing.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
This is the one on whether Bloomberg is an oligarch
Here's the right one
Bernie's supporters are all white peoples..
....
Might be some duplicates..it's hard keeping up.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Just trying to figure out what is happening.
The MSM in not really very informative. Overall it appears as if Bernie well in the first round but CNN is only reporting on a few of the big sites.
The trick that they are using is that they will only report the final delegate results leaving out the fact that Bernie will likely have the most overall caucus attendees. By doing this this allows for the moderates to join together to get delegates in order to stifle Bernie.
One of the tweets has a Biden supporter
is accusing Bernie supporters of not being citizens eligible to vote.
I just saw a kos tweet
saying that there were very few people of color at the caucuses. Yep..very..few..even though there are plenty of pictures of lots of people of color at them.
D Chris Murphy is complaining about people saying that their first priority is health care not climate change. Someone asked him when's the last time he worried about going to the doctor because he couldn't afford to? Also saw one of Mulveney laughing about how this administration cut food stamps. Yeah you asshole seeing kids going hungry is always funny! The new number for how many people will be affected by Trump's food stamps rules is not 700,000. It's closer to a million and that includes kids being kicked off the lunch program. Very funny.
Gawd there are times I ....
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Hmmmm
Yep, all I see are bros
(edited a duplicate post):
retaliate
[video:https://youtu.be/N7vCww3j2-w]
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
One of those dumbass things neoliberals say.
Like there's some reason to choose between climate change and healthcare. Like the same rich bastards don't accelerate the one and destroy the other on a daily basis.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
If we need the billionaires money...
the game is over. Same old same old. No hope and no Change.
If Bernie takes the billionaire's money, I just will quit voting.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Go Bernie!!!
Big win tonight!!!
Apparently Iowans aren't real voters
Question - "Why not wait a few states before you decide?.
Answer - "Agreed. Let’s start looking at real results from real voters, before we dismiss any of our marvelous candidates. Iowa is only the first round, folks."
Alrighty then...
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
OH MY GOD! THEY'RE WHITE!
Like we are aliens or something.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I couldn't stomach MSNBC anymore
. . . after Chris Matthews argued something to the effect that Bernie has an advantage in Iowa because caucuses are like meetings and socialists love meetings. Hey, that's really insightful analysis Chris. Even worse is the former Bush lady. Thank gawd I've forgotten their names.
I've switched over to TYT live coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxWasohGzQE
They have Krystal Ball on now.
Jesus effing Christ.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I grew up in Iowa . ...
Everyone graduated from high school and everyone went to college or trade school. +
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo
Illinois
The one drop out we had came here from Italy at age 9. He was drafted into VietNam, made Corporal twice, busted to private twice. They kept promoting him despite discipline problems because he had "street smarts". I guess there it was "jungle smarts."
After he came back to "the world" he apprenticed to a plumber. Saw him a few years ago at our 50th High School reunion. He's retired. Told me he sold his plumbing business (somewhere along the line he started his own shop) for $2.5 million. I believe him. He was never a liar or a braggart. Also he was always driving new Cadillacs.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
More stuff buzzing around the Twits
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Nina!
Damn. She'll be an historic Chief of Staff. If Pelosi and Schumer think they're going to stand up to her, they'll soon be sobbing in their cocktails.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
I hope so!!!!
HER FACE AT THE END!!! Oh my gosh, I was fistpumping and lifting one of my cats in the air (I was overcome, it felt like the right thing to do LOL).
Nina Turner is fire, I love her
I hope she considers running for office in future.
And now, the big Biden contingent. I laughed out loud seeing that crowd. Holy shit, remember how we were all told that Biden's voters were a wall and Sanders and his bros should all just go home? The alleged fucking frontrunner is probably going to tie with Marianne Williamson hahahahahaha! (Note: I'm aware she's done. It's just my Bernie bro-ness can't be contained.)
FWIW
I'm listening to TYT. Cenk said that a leak about the Des Moines Register poll had Biden dropping 6 points since the one a couple weeks ago. Who knows?
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
If that's true
and Biden did drop 6 percentage points, that may take him out of contention. To my recollection, that'd put him around 15% for most polls.
Looking at the caucus circles that Mark from Queens posted above, it ain't looking good for Biden!
I think his campaign is circling the drain
but I won't lie, if it helps peel votes off Mayo Pete and Two Faces Warren and whoever else, I'm fine with him continuing. And the longer he stays in it, the more likely he is to explosively shit the bed (proverbially). For instance, Shaun King has recently posted that Biden's alleged civil rights activities are confirmed officially as lies (edited to embed tweet):
SC up for grabs?
Ought to effect things in South Carolina. Biden votes won't be going to mayo pete.
Bu Iowa doesn't mean anything
anymore..why? Cuz ByeDone isn't winning it. See my tweets above.
Don't like what the narrative looks like? Just change it.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Bloomberg surge!
he went from 0 to a strong 0 and it's looking good for the not-oligarch!
Thanks Mark for the Open Thread
Should be an interesting night. Here’s hoping, eh?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I find it interesting
that the DNC thinks Bloomberg is going to be a force against Bernie on the debate stage. What could they possibly think is going to happen?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Good question
Just what would Bloomberg say to Bernie that would hurt him? But I'm pretty sure Bernie would have a few things to say to Mike. Like asking him about the money he gave to the DNC so they'd let him in the debates.
lol!
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Effective Bloomberg = cutting into Bernie's speaking time
that Republican is a plant and I can't be convinced otherwise. I cannot fucking believe that anyone believes this guy is serious.
Check out DK
Unbelievably lots of them like Bloomberg. And Klobachar, Mayo Pete. I just don't understand!
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I went. Some poor soul is pleading with Bernie
to control his surrogates. My eyes rolled into Saskatchewan.
I saw this
Arguing that Bloomberg is not an oligarch. Even though he bought his way on to the debate. This to me is the very definition of an oligarch. I love the person who wrote it, but just don't understand how they could not see what's in front of them. The rules have flown out the window there. It's quite acceptable to go into a positive candidate diary and take a dump in the first comment. It's okay to tell Tulsi to go F herself, but then lecture people who are mean to Herheinous.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
It's pretty chaotic
I've been bouncing around. . . .
MSNBC showed a precinct in Dubuque where Buttigieg was way ahead on first count.
In another precinct, Klobuchar is way ahead.
At Iowa City University, Bernie's way ahead.
Another precinct in Des Moines, Warren is way ahead.
Another one, Biden's ahead.
Ugh. Fucking caucuses.
Found this in the Guardian live feed
...
https://mobile.twitter.com/redistrict/status/1224506909585281025
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Astounding. This is ALL b/c of Bernie's fierce, unequivocal
and relentless advocacy of something Americans have been so browbeaten with relentless propaganda into believing could never be possible:
This is all him. And it's a complete reversal in the minds of citizens of not only what they want but what is possible to this infamous, nasty, pompous bullshit:
You piece of shit.
I want more than anything for this movement to bury these fuckers and their corporate-owned Neoliberal world forever.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
His surrogates have been outstanding too
there are literally too many to mention and too many are my favourite, but a beautiful video, made by a volunteer, of Killer Mike speaking truth and urgency has been watched at Casa Le Frog all weekend.
That is awesome.
just perfect in so many ways.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
The very ending showing Bernie being arrested
and Mike saying that Bernie will be the next POTUS makes my eyes well up. It's such a powerful juxtaposition with the visual and the crowd's silence and Mike's voice.
No question that I was a Bernie supporter in 2016, but he has upped his game to 100% and this campaign blows 2015 out of the water. On the strength of how visible and how united and on message this team is, it's almost seamless. The worst moments for me have been walking back on Cenk Uygur and Zephyr Teachout, but I don't think there are hard feelings. In fact? I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie stepped up for Cenk.
I don't care that he did that to Cenk.
Cenk is, IMO, not a particularly trustworthy actor.
Teachout is different. That was a mistake.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
First Results for Final Alignment
Here
Eight Precincts Reporting of 1,765
Klobuchar--25.6%
Buttigieg--22.0%
Sanders--21.6%
Warren--16.3%
Biden--14.5%
Edit to add: In First Alignment voting, Sanders and Buttigieg are running neck-and-neck for first place.
Oh God, Klobuchar???
what planet am I on here?
I'm getting a bad buzz about this
Ugh.
Too many idjits.
Looks like big early story is Biden flopping, on Social Security
The Hill just reported very early numbers looks like a close race between Bernie and Mayo godammn Pete - the CIA Neoliberal Wunderkid (gasp!). Can not believe this clown is viable. Then again...
Jesus christ...Mayo Pete fucking Buttigeig, and Clobberchar ranking.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Hill has live coverage as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjAXcibX19Q
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Sixteen Final Count Precincts Reporting (of 1,765)
Updated:
Sanders--24.1%
Buttigieg--24.1%
Biden--19.6%
Warren--18.4%
Klobuchar--13.4%
Still, in First Alignment voting, Sanders and Buttigieg are running neck-and-neck for first place.
This is the shit I find really stressful
that Bernie Sanders is tied with Mayo Pete makes me feel nauseated. It's like the prayers of the Establishmentarians are being heard and the huge wodges of cash being pumped into Mayo Pete's campaign is working. I think I have to log off before I eat my way through my pantry and pet the cats too hard.
Chill.
Only 1% reporting.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Frankly, I'm bracing myself for cheating
or other "irregularities." Memories of the Wyoming primary in 2016 haunt me, in which Bernie won by about ten more percentage points, and he and Faillary Clinton were awarded an equal number of delegates.
Buttigieg??
Yeesh!! CIA Mind Control guy.
Yeah, that's the way forward.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Jimmy, Stef and Ron were funny as hell
for the last hour or so but I'm watching this now:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjAXcibX19Q width:500 height:300]
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Same.
Great job, these two.
And Max Alvarez is amazing. Gotta start listening to his podcast.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Buttigieg? Buttigieg?
wtf?
Iowa vote tally
.....
Has this been posted yet? Does it mean it's over or is it still going on?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Dubuque Precinct 9A
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Real Clear Politics is tracking.
With 1.47 precincts reporting, Bernie is ahead with 25%, closely followed by Warren with 21%. Bute has 19%, Biden 14% and Klob 13%. What is interesting so far is how badly Biden is doing.
Mary Bennett
Mayo CIA Pete carpetbombed Iowa with ads, getting a bit of
bounce.
He's been groomed for this moment, folks. But he's as fake as can be. Ain't gon' last.
You kidding me?
It did cost him $7million though.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Would that be
$7M we paid for, courtesy of his CIA pals?
Mary Bennett
Buttigieg
Has no path forward, regardless of how well he does in Iowa. He'll stay in through New Hampshire, but he has roughly zero support among non-whites and you can't win the nomination without it. This is all about his political future, not about the present race.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Total Chaos -- Look at RCP
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
I hate to say it but there seems to be some sense there rather that media circus.
The Hill is doing a great job.
Just FYI. That’s my recommendation on who to watch.
I have been surprised at Mayo Pete, but as they’re mentioning, he went all in on Iowa in the last few weeks. So that’s probably what we’re seeing. The flipside is, he really doesn’t have a path forward due to his abysmal support with people of color.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Getting slight creeping feeling of shenanigans now,
as state Dem Party releases statement of needing to do a "quality control check."
Hmm...
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Totally agree. I don't believe it's a coincident that Biden is
crashing and burning, and they can't release the results because reasons.
Markos in da house!
And the responses to this are hilarious:
Thanks
but no thanks.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
If you would like some laughs, he is getting roasted
there are some quite witty people on Twitter!
The democratic establishment's plan seems to be successful.
By having so many candidates (many of which were on a fool's errand) it adds to the confusion of the electorate. It prevented the head to head conversation on policies.
By withholding the preliminary results of actual attendees and only showing the final results after realignment it also for shenanigans behind the scene.
The Snake is in cahoots with the moderates not Bernie.
"at this point in 2016 we had 85% reporting"
and this year 0%.
Now why would that be?
Maybe there's a lot of this going around:
I might make a guess,
but I can't back it up with any link.
I just might suggest something off the wall, doncha know?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Check this out:
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
How is that even possible?
is Faillary Clinton overseeing the count?
Delegates are not awarded by precinct.
None will be awarded untill final.
People are posting a lot of nonsense.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
This is how Hillary won a lot of caucuses
By a effing coin toss even though Bernie had more votes. The caucus system really isn't fair though. Lots of people can't attend them for various reasons. I think it'd be more fair if people got to vote instead.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
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