The intentionally misleading immigration debate

Trump is despicable, especially on immigration.
And yet the reality of the situation is almost 180 degrees opposite of how it's being portrayed in the media.
For example, Human Rights Watch released the report titled Trump’s Cruel Deportations.

Pretty cut-and-dry, right? Trump is the bad guy, Dems who oppose him are the good guys.

The Trump administration continues to arrest higher numbers of undocumented immigrants, with especially higher rates of noncriminal immigrants as part of those arrests -- but deportations continue to lag behind the rates of the Obama administration, according to new data.
...From January to June of this year, ICE removed 105,178 undocumented immigrants from the country, of which 42%, or 43,808, were noncriminal.
In 2016 during the same time period, 121,170 undocumented immigrants were removed and 42% were noncriminal.

You read that right.
Deportations are down under Trump. Significantly lower than under the deporter-in-chief, Barack Obama.

Funny how no one is talking about that.


And then there is Trump's border wall.
The whole debate about the wall makes the assumption that we are talking about whether we should have one.
When the reality is that we already have one!
We have 580 miles of border wall existing.
Much of it was built under the Clinton Administration.
So all Trump is talking about is extending that wall.

This doesn't justify Trump's plan, but the hyperbolic rhetoric from the anti-Trump side only distorts and confuses the issue.
Neither side is addressing actual reality, thus making real solutions to real problems impossible.

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Amanda Matthews's picture

to blatantly lie about EVERYTHING Trump. They've made up their minds that they're gonna run him out of office one way or another.

Would you trust a 'party' of sneaky, crooked, blatant liars? And I'm not talking about the Pubbies.

EDIT: decided to spell 'EVERYTHING' correctly.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Meteor Man's picture

(1.) Recognize that a problem exists.

(2.) Correctly define the problem.

(3.) Plan a workable solution.

(4.) Implement the plan.

(5.) Make corrections to iron out the bugs in the plan.

Never easy.

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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn

detroitmechworks's picture

Which is the standard anti-immigrant line, but rather, "Why are the 1% paying such crap wages that they will only hire those that have no legal recourse?"

The top really wants us to hate those who would be natural allies in the quest to set up a better future for all of our children.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Is to point this stuff out. Even when I'm not trying to make someone mad, people just do not want to hear this.

As always, Trump is garbage, this is a fact. But let's not pretend his policy is anything more than a continuation of the status quo. Once again, he's the symptom, not the cause and the way people want to focus on Trump exclusively insures these policies will continue under a friendlier face.

I know I'm saying nothing new here. This is just one of those things that frustrates me to no end.

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I wonder how many Trump supporters are aware how much wall we already have? If I could bring myself to do it I would ask my Trump supporting family if they know that.

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is people are not trying to get into the US as often and just as importantly, immigrants (documented and undocumented) are fleeing to Canada.

While Obama deserves scorn on immigration, Trump has created and implemented (with copious help from the MSM), a fascist state. Undocumenteds, DACA recipents and even green card holders are all scared crapless about staying in the US. As well they should be.

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edg's picture


No person that enters and/or stays in a country illegally should feel secure. There are consequences to face when you break the law.

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Carol Joy's picture

@Blueslide In Canada, they will find out that learning to speak either English or French proficiently will allow them to stay in that country. Canada understands the ramifications of creating a special class of persons who never need to learn the official language of their new nation.

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Believing in the improbable can make your life a miracle.

@Carol Joy Learning English in the US as an immigrant assures nothing I am afraid.

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