I'd like to Sue
I'm a legal secretary, so my conditioning is to believe bringing a lawsuit is a very grave matter and it's something I would never do lightly - really not even for moral reasons, but because as part of my job that's how I've come to look at it.
But I really wish I was the type who would sue. You need a lot of stamina, though, and my stamina is all tied up in reading cheap novels and eating candy, so there's not a lot to spare.
Anyway, if I were the type to sue, I'd sue both the Democratic and Republican parties - the entities themselves. No doubt both are incorporated in some way or they couldn't be rolling in all that money.
So if they are corporations, I could sue them just as I'd sue Nabisco, for example, if my fig newtons were not figgy enough to use the word "fig" in the name.
I know we can have all sorts of political parties and we do have more than just Dem and Repub. But those two have sewed up a kind of monopoly in this country and I believe we need some political style antitrust laws made to break them up.
We have the right to vote for our representatives as shown in the Constitution and several Amendments. If the very mechanism by which we act electorally is compromised by any political party, that is wrong and should be changed. It's no different these days than how the big money is buying legislation which also undermines our representation in this democracy. So I'd like to sue over that.
Because hell, if everything is a corporation now, why can't I sue both political parties for some kind of breach of contract? I've seen corporate lawyers litigate, there's all sorts of juicy opportunities to address grievances.
My 2 cents.
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Miles ...
Haven't posted a video here before, so hope it works.
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Beat in the USA.
You don't have a contract with them
IANAL but I think it would be hard to sue them if you didn't have a signed contract with them.
"Well done is better than well said." - Ben Franklin
I was thinking of that too - see my comment below.
You'd have to link the Constitution as the contract and the political parties as somehow bound to that contract as my being a voter would do the same.
A good lawyer would have no problem doing that, imo.
Beat in the USA.
If you are a member of the Party
have signed your name and have given money...isn't THAT a contract?
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It's certainly some form of relationship. n/t
Beat in the USA.
Let me see
Would the constitution constitute a contract because it is the basis of our entire legal frame work. If not, how am I required to abide by it, if it is not considered a legally binding document, which I was never given the opportunity to read, comment on or reject, or required to sign, to be bound by it's content, and meaning?
Obviously I'm no legal eagle, but, our elected officials have sworn an oath of office, which if we get technical, as the law usually does, they indeed have violated their oath of office, imho, on numerous occasions, the Iraq war for example.
Congress has abdicated their responsibility to utilize the constitution to declare war since WWII, engaged in collusion (authorizing) with torturers, spying (authorizing) on the American people and the list of crimes goes on.
Of course I seem to remember that we can not sue our elected officials (for some stupid reason), because they wrote legislation so we couldn't. Governing immunity or so such crap.
According to Cornell Law's online system, ("https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/standing )
"Standing, or locus standi, is capacity of a party to bring suit in court. State laws define standing. At the heart of these statutes is the requirement that plaintiffs have sustained or will sustain direct injury or harm and that this harm is redressable."
"have sustained or will sustain direct injury or harm and that this harm is redressable."
How to make that case in terms of suing political parties?
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I'd sue the RNC and the DNC as legal entities. n/t
Beat in the USA.
It's frikkin big social contract, though.
And voting is a RIGHT, isn't it? My understanding is that a RIGHT is inherent -- so that voting is inherent in the Citizen (yeah, okay, except if certain laws are broken).
Citizens have a RIGHT to run for office, but I'll just mention that and move on for now.
Elected Office is a temporary, privileged position which one is Granted by The Citizens (there's the contract, IMO) with the expectation that the EO will fulfill his function.
That's as far as I can get with this in a few minutes. But we have some lawyers here, don't we?
When I write "breach of contract,"
... I am referring to the Constitution and its Amendments as the contract and these corporations are breaching it.
Beat in the USA.
Breach of contract for obstructing our right to vote in
Free, fair elections?
Hmmm. Is'nt that a UN ISSUE?
At least impeach the likes of
At least impeach the likes of Grassley and McConnell over the supreme court nominee. They
cursedswore an oath!"If we all threw our problems in a pile and saw everyone else's, we'd grab ours back" - Regina Brett
I agree
I don't think the Dems or Repubs are figgy enough either! Sue 'em! LOL!
If we only could
I honestly find myself torn between working to better the Dem party from the inside as a member or chucking it out the window and going Independent. Some days I think both will be equally ineffective...
The only thing harder than speaking truth to power is speaking truth to stupid.
Looks like suing may transpire in AZ
Vid below claims someone registered as a Dem got his registration changed so he could only vote as a provisional Dem.
That suit should be with the registrar, however, and not the party.
Is from this post on US Uncut: http://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Similar situation in Pima Co. - see this vid
https://vid.me/KKWP
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You could hire Adam B
He's sure to want to take on the corrupt above the law duopoly and bust up their monopoly. Have him do it before the TPP is passed as it's a threat to the transnational's profits I ought to sue their asses is one of my vents about injustice's great or silly. It makes me laugh as I have never sued nor been sued. Who can afford to sue? Adam B made me so mad with his twisty legal interpretations justifying electoral corruption and cheating I let loose with my entire repertoire of lawyer jokes. He won I got 10 HR's from his peers. I have supreme contempt of court ever since the Supreme's selected Bush. I am amazed at this circus of a primary where anything goes except your vote counting and the law.
This!
"Adam B made me so mad with his twisty legal interpretations." I know maybe four or five names from that other place and one of them is Adam B because he would make me so angry I made sure I remembered the name so I wouldn't read any more of his diaries.
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