@dervish

He's a real treasure.

@mimi  
you’d think the emotional atmosphere would reflect that. There would be much more talk of hard realities and drastic measures. There’d be no time or tolerance for political-correctness related pissing matches.

Wartime is an ongoing state of emergency. Wartime is grim. Wartime measures are ugly. In wartime, lines are crossed, taboos are broken, sacred cows are slaughtered. Except as needed to maintain morale, any kind of activity and consumption not essential to the war effort is discouraged. Even having children has to wait. Sacrifice. Triaging. Rationing. Interning people — well, it’s true the government has trashed the Bill of Rights and is spying on us all the time now. But aside from that?

I don’t share a lot of people’s lack of concern re climate change, but I think I understand it:

“It doesn’t feel like wartime, so how serious can things be? And anyway, supposing it were true: what’s a family like mine, barely making ends meet as it is, supposed to do? I’ll believe climate change is a problem when I see billionaires and entertainment mega-stars sacrificing their fortunes for the good of this so-called ‘war effort’.”

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@lotlizard Das hab ich nicht gewissen.

https://www.taz.de/Christian-Stroebele-ueber-den-2-Juni-67/!5411791/

@randtntx to that Counterpunch article.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/02/beyond-democrat-dead-ends-what-re...

I read about Obama's legacy regarding care of the environment. This quote is from an article in Counterpunch and the author says;
" Obama and his Party have not been climate heroes....but climate destroyers."

Throughout his two terms in office, Obama avidly served the fossil fuel industry. He opened up vast new offshore areas for drilling....he delivered giant leases to coal corporations [did not] slow natural gas production ....[allowed] SOS Clinton to vigouously promote [fracking] in other countries....[and allowed the construction] of tens of thousands of miles of pipelines.

I just want people to remember how the U.S. has actually been behaving regarding environmental policies across different administrations. This is not a new turn of events with Trump. It seems to be very much the same policy, just more, shall we say, 'in your face'. The article goes on to say: "Production of oil and gas in the U.S. skyrocketed, reaching record highs under Obama."

@randtntx

I read about Obama's legacy regarding care of the environment. This quote is from an article in Counterpunch and the author says;
" Obama and his Party have not been climate heroes....but climate destroyers."

Throughout his two terms in office, Obama avidly served the fossil fuel industry. He opened up vast new offshore areas for drilling....he delivered giant leases to coal corporations [did not] slow natural gas production ....[allowed] SOS Clinton to vigouously promote [fracking] in other countries....[and allowed the construction] of tens of thousands of miles of pipelines.

I just want people to remember how the U.S. has actually been behaving regarding environmental policies across different administrations. This is not a new turn of events with Trump. It seems to be very much the same policy, just more, shall we say, 'in your face'. The article goes on to say: "Production of oil and gas in the U.S. skyrocketed, reaching record highs under Obama."

@Big Al nd

only one man got us in. No Senate vote. Obama attempted an end run around the Constitution.

It's all kabuki. This is not the one to draw a line in the sand over.

civil war. That cannot go without challenge. He's an asshole hypocrite. Relative to Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement, the primary issue to me is the fact that we allow a single person out of 330 million to make that decision. Why isn't that being discussed in the media? Why isn't Congress, who is supposed to be representing the rest of us, bringing that up? It's not like staying in the Paris agreement was going to do anything to solve climate change anyway, but we're acting like a bunch of punks allowing a crazy man acting on behalf of the rich to rule our lives this way.

@randtntx create regime change or if the citizens do rise up, somehow the US isn't there to help.

Only the poor, weak and bottom 99% get hurt with sanctions and create really bad reactions to the US and any other country trying to force the people to rise up while starving them.

We need a better way world-wide to figure out what to do when a leader or government hurts its own people. This is a total failure.

on my mind (as do many people around the globe it seems, thanks to Trump/Paris exit), I read this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/02/a-question-for-every-parent-is-us...

It's a horrifying article, but I think everyone should read it.
I think this article relates to your topic, so I don't think I am hijacking.

The reason I think it relates is because I am wondering what the consequences of all these wars have on climate change. Common sense alone makes me conclude that the negative impact of war must be tremendous. Just thinking of all the long-distant mobilization of supplies alone requires a huge amount of energy. Then there is all the death and destruction. What are we doing?

I wish a world forum on climate would discuss War and the climate implications. I wish they would demand that we stop them now if for no other reason than the health of our planet. Every parent should support such an action.

@randtntx

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on my mind (as do many people around the globe it seems, thanks to Trump/Paris exit), I read this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/02/a-question-for-every-parent-is-us...

It's a horrifying article, but I think everyone should read it.
I think this article relates to your topic, so I don't think I am hijacking.

The reason I think it relates is because I am wondering what the consequences of all these wars have on climate change. Common sense alone makes me conclude that the negative impact of war must be tremendous. Just thinking of all the long-distant mobilization of supplies alone requires a huge amount of energy. Then there is all the death and destruction. What are we doing?

I wish a world forum on climate would discuss War and the climate implications. I wish they would demand that we stop them now if for no other reason than the health of our planet. Every parent should support such an action.

@randtntx

Is all the death and destruction worth continued U.S. interventionism? That’s the question facing the American people, including every single parent. It’s the question facing the British people. It’s the question facing the French people. It’s not a question facing the Swiss people because they’re not partnering with the U.S. government’s interventionism and, therefore, are not the targets of terrorist retaliation.

Noticed that, did you?

Here's something else to notice: If we reduced our military spending to the levels it would be at if we adopted a permanently non-interventionistic foreign policy, there'd be plenty of money and resources to address climate change; genuine full employment; and considerably less national debt, too. And we'd be safer!

As for parenthood, thank Cat I'm not one! Even if your name was Bill Gates, you couldn't pay me enough to bring children into this piece of shit we've made of a once glorious world. There's no adult I hate that badly, much less some poor kid.

on my mind (as do many people around the globe it seems, thanks to Trump/Paris exit), I read this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/02/a-question-for-every-parent-is-us...

It's a horrifying article, but I think everyone should read it.
I think this article relates to your topic, so I don't think I am hijacking.

The reason I think it relates is because I am wondering what the consequences of all these wars have on climate change. Common sense alone makes me conclude that the negative impact of war must be tremendous. Just thinking of all the long-distant mobilization of supplies alone requires a huge amount of energy. Then there is all the death and destruction. What are we doing?

I wish a world forum on climate would discuss War and the climate implications. I wish they would demand that we stop them now if for no other reason than the health of our planet. Every parent should support such an action.

@mimi

the sound makes the music. And that's not my kind of music.
[video:https://youtu.be/yu_W--kjhEo]
I am reading the article in a little bit.

@Azazello Spent many vacations there. This was in the pre-Williams Center development and paving of Swan Road and stretches of Alvernon. Perhaps you remember the Lunt Avenue Marble Club?

This was in my local paper: Reliving Communist past ...
Interesting, jah ?

@Hawkfish two aspects of the same problem. While important, as far as it goes, winning doesn't address the fact that the game itself is rigged. When dry powder Dems sell you out for the umpteenth time, you start thinking outside of the box.

Winning is great, but only if the winners aren't corporate whores and slimeballs who lie and sell us out.

That is called democracy.

The real criminals here are the incompetent democrats who have been losing elections for the last 10-15 years. Perhaps if the Dems had actually run a winning candidate on a popular platform before elections they wouldn't have to find ways to remove him afterwards. It also wouldn't hurt if they hadn't deliberately promoted Trump as"easy to beat".

I will continue to oppose him, especially on climate matters, but until enough people stop thinking that "resistance" is more romantic than "winning" nothing is going to change.

@Hawkfish

That is called democracy.

The real criminals here are the incompetent democrats who have been losing elections for the last 10-15 years. Perhaps if the Dems had actually run a winning candidate on a popular platform before elections they wouldn't have to find ways to remove him afterwards. It also wouldn't hurt if they hadn't deliberately promoted Trump as"easy to beat".

I will continue to oppose him, especially on climate matters, but until enough people stop thinking that "resistance" is more romantic than "winning" nothing is going to change.