I have the Bing News thingie on my puter. Here's a sampler of what's up right now.
"Bernie Nation Can't Get behind Hillary Clinton":
snippets: opener: "'And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain.'"
"They sound like the kid who snatches his ball and storms out of the park after losing a game."
"Does Bernie Sanders Really Deserve any Concessions From Hillary Clinton?"
snippet: "why is it the (apparent) loser who is claiming the spoils, and the right to shape the party's future? It doesn't make a great deal of sense except as an exercise in projected self-righteousness."
"Why America needs Bernie sanders to be its anti-poverty spokesman"
snippet: opener: "Everybody, it seems, has an opinion about what Bernie Sanders should do now that he won't be the Democratic nominee."
"The Bernie Camp’s Really Bad Idea of a ‘Tea Party of the Left’"
snippet: "But the closer you get to the Sandernistas' Brand New Congress initiative — the new project by recently laid-off Bernie staffers to create a revolution in Congress beginning with the 2018 elections — the less it looks like the instrument for a difficult but achievable task and the more it looks like the product of a very strange set of beliefs about American politics."
"Young people discover politics through Bernie"
This is a good read by Bill Press...the token progressive in this case.
"Hillary Clinton Should Offer Bernie Sanders a Return for Dropping Out"
snippet: "The Clinton campaign needs to reach out to his followers to make them understand that their concerns have been heard and that the issues Sanders has trumpeted have a place in the Democratic Party moving forward."
The first four are new today. Do I detect a rising note of hysteria here? If so, why? They are still in control, aren't they?
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Continued campaign of psy-ops
alternating between Stating the Primary is over, go home and threats of Bernie voters throwing the election to the Republicans. Ho hum.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Why I won't follow Bernie...
back into the Democratic fold, if as expected, Clinton ultimately becomes the nominee and Bernie endorses her:
Simply because Hillary Clinton supports, promotes and represents everything I detest, despise and repudiate both in terms of the American political system and government policy. And for everyone who disagrees, at the moment you pull the lever for Hillary think about the kid in the photo below, and ask yourself how you can justify helping to empower a monster who has every intention of implementing policies that will most assuredly create many more just like him.
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Would you follow him not to endorse Clinton, but to help him
demonstrate that Clinton has left the Party? I am not a party animal...I only joined a few weeks ago to vote for Bernie. Don't know how long I might stay. But if Bernie releases us with the understanding that by doing so he is freeing himself up to reform the Dem Party, then I will vote for him anyway and stay in to see what I can do. Would you consider that?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Depends
At this point I'm not committing myself to anything - will wait until I see how things play out at the convention. I expect Sanders will be offered a few token crumbs, and will follow through on his pledge to endorse Clinton. At that point, I think the whole "Occupy the Voting Booth" movement will have to face a moment of truth - either follow Sanders down the well worn path of trying to reform the Democratic Party from within (an impossible undertaking, in my view), or else attempt to chart a course independent of either the major establishment parties.
I recently registered as Democrat for the express purpose of voting for Sanders in the upcoming CA primary. If and when Sanders is reduced to the role of token populist/insurgent, I will terminate my involvement with the DP and never look back. Quite apart from what I see as the futility of attempting to reform the party from within, I don't particularly want to belong to an organization that promotes and venerates such unsavory individuals as Hillary and Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Peolosi, Madeleine Albright, Rahm Emmanuel, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz... the list goes on (and on).
On virtually every issue that I care about the aforementioned are well to the right of even Richard Nixon - why the hell would I want to have anything to do with an organization that opens its arms to the likes of them? They are all about money and power, and achieving their aims by devious, violent and dishonorable means. There's a good reason that Bernie demurred from running for office as a Democrat for the first 40 or so years of his career in politics.
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You're buying the MSM line
We ain't lost yet! If we lose then let's regroup. Right now we need to be phone banking, donating, and canvassing...not throwing up our hands and whining. Let's get to work!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
No one here is buying any line. When you read
the whole thing you will see the questions at the bottom.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Sorry, I can't rec this. I stopped going to TOP
because I don't want to read that anti-Bernie crap. It puts me in a bad mood, and I don't need to do that to myself.
Not asking for a rec. I am very sorry to hear
that that place still has such an effect on you. My point is the questions at the bottom.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
I lurked at TOP daily for many years & although I spent a lot
of time there, I was not as emotionally connected to the site as many folks who are here now, who spent years there sharing ideas, research, interests, and some very personal stuff. Because of that distance, when the kamikaze attacks against Bernie began to pop up more and more frequently, and just before the edict came down, I knew it was time for me to find a more civil place to spend my time and came here. And since most of the folks over there are here now, or at Reddit's KossacksforBernie, I don't need to go there ever again, and don't need to know what those humorless unimaginative authoritarians, or their little Napoleon leader, have to say. I hope you understand it was nothing personal, just me hoping folks would move on.
Right on. And I will be more sensitive in the future...it's
just that there isn't any of that negative trolly stuff here, so you can safely assume that what is presented is for a different purpose than that.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Hillary campaign is acting differently than the Obama campaign
In 2008 Hillary stayed in until after the last primary vowing to take it to the convention. I think she had a big majority in super delegates but then 60 or so switched to Obama. Since most big states had voted by March, there were a lot less delegates left than there are now and yet I believe the Obama campaign was far more gracious to Hillary than the Hillary campaign is being to Bernie.
Beware the bullshit factories.
That is what I remember, as well. I believe that Hillary
will do ANYTHING to win the nomination. What she is willing to do to become President remains to be seen. It may not include being gracious. Seems to me that after the convention is too late.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire