Hillary Rodham Clinton - A True Woman of the People

Found the following diary, by a member called patb2015, at the WayoftheBern reddit site, and couldn't resist passing it along. Does provide some revealing insight into the lady's character, although nothing that's not already widely known. Hey, they don't call her Her Heinous for nothing!

Would love to see someone post this over at TOP. I have a hunch it would produce exactly the same reaction as repeatedly beating on a hornet's nest with a baseball bat. Better have your best Usain Bolt sneakers strapped on tight - LOL!

Shaking Hands with Sen Clinton or I have never been so insulted in my life, by patb2015

This is a story that enrages the Hillary people but it's sort of an amusing one. I once met then Senator Clinton in 2002. Maybe it was 03, but it was a long time back when she was just "Senator" Clinton and hadn't yet committed to a presidential run.

Now I meet a lot of politicians, they are by nature Extroverts... That movie from the 1990's Striptease where Congressman Dilbeck walks into a party and shakes hands with everyone, and is waving to everyone... Yeah, that's pretty common...

They always want to shake hands, give you the smile, turn it on, and the good ones remember you years later...

Well, I see Senator Clinton standing in the hall of Dirksen/Hart outside the coffee shop. I waltz over and stick out my hand. "Senator, nice to meet you, My name is Pat, who on your staff should I talk to about X?'.... Now this is a routine intro I do to everyone.

My hand is sticking out and she slowly shifts her gaze from my face to my hand, just staring at it...I start wondering if she heard me, so I say the intro line again and she's just staring at my hand, I actually turn so i can see if somehow i got some grease or something on it, it looks good...

She's still staring... Her aide hisses in her ear "Shake his hand", so she limply grips it, like I handed her a rotting fish, and pumps up once then lets go, and reaches into her pocket for some hand sterilizer and starts wiping her hands down...

I'm so startled, I look at my hand again... She still hasn't answered my question, so i'm so putoff, i just walk away and keep looking at my hand...

The reptilian stare, the silent presence, the royal desire to not shake hands with some peasant... Damn...

Ever start a conversation on a subway with an introvert who just doesn't want to acknowledge you? This was way worse. That cold stare like i'm some sewer dweller coming up out of the streets. That indifferent look people will give as they sit in a window eating watching homeless people go hungry.

Then the hand sterilizer...

Later that day I saw her with a bunch of her bigshot supporters, and she was all smiles and gladhanding... Yep... If you can write a big check and command lots of votes, she'll do the act, but if you are some peasant.... Not even worth acknowledging...

I suspect she's fairly introverted and dislikes strangers and is an arrogant asshole and may need to get seriously amped up to overcome that. I wouldn't be surprised if her staff has to hit her with stimulants to get her out of her shell.

Which would explain why she can't do many appearances, and why she seems dazed alot.

So that's the story.

I expect to be pilloried by CTR Scum, but, it is what it is...

Share
up
0 users have voted.

Comments

Bisbonian's picture

but always good to see a first 'hand' account.

up
0 users have voted.

"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

edg's picture

up
0 users have voted.
Bollox Ref's picture

up
0 users have voted.

Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

tries to down play all the time. Her father owned two places that supplied drapes and such to hotel chains. (At one point, his wiki said he "managed" a textile factory. No, my father in law managed a factory for a salary. Her Dad was a business owner. Maybe he did not have hundreds of millions, but they had a nice life. Her family could afford a second home, a relatively big deal in the post WW II era, and could pay her way through Wellesley and Yale.

How do I know? If she had either worked her way through school or earned scholarships, you can be damned sure her wiki would say so. It mentions every pisant honor she ever got, including being voted by her high school classmates as most likely to succeed. Never have I ever seen anything like that in the CV of any politician, let alone one seeking the Oval Office. I'm embarrassed for her.

up
0 users have voted.

Tracey Flick running for prez before.

up
0 users have voted.
Lily O Lady's picture

does look like she chose the wrong line of work.

up
0 users have voted.

"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Hawkfish's picture

Why she thinks she can do both is beyond me.

up
0 users have voted.

We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg

Lily O Lady's picture

She was probably thinking that as she stared at the proffered hand, but didn't want to speak and start a conversation. The meaning is that the august personage is of a higher race of beings than the lowly peons who walk the earth--the new royalty.

up
0 users have voted.

"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Not surprised, but don't think it's the "introvert" but more the brain damage - so disconnected someone has to tell her what to do. This has been going on for years, and years.
Remember when Todd Madison, the man who jumped up to tell her to "keep talking" - placed a comforting arm on her shoulder, and she repeated his words, word for word. He's supposedly ex secret service now taking care of her. He did the same for Billy after Billy had heart surgery.
The Tell - a secret service person will NEVER NEVER touch their person - unless to quickly move them out of danger.

She's had neurological problems for years. Wouldn't put it on her being an "introvert." Gives a bad name too, to all of us introverts.

Her Heinious is an "introvert" just like she "fainted" on 9/11 day, when she was wearing her Zeiss blue anti-seizure glasses, needed to lean against a pillar to stay upright, and then couldn't even mange to get herself into he van. She's had physical problems for a long, long time.

The hand sanitizer is a hoot! She's probably got more phobia's than we can imagine!

up
0 users have voted.

woman president of the US. It has already made her, as she pointed out, the first woman nominated for President by one of the two largest political parties in the US. (I believe she used "major" party, but screw that.)

A real conundrum for our people averse, truth averse, accomplishment impoverished Hills!

up
0 users have voted.
Shockwave's picture

I was having dinner with a billionaire, who I made millions for, and my wife. In a table next to ours was another billionaire, Michael Milken, the day he got out of jail.

Trump showed up with an entourage. He stood next to me while the waiters rearranged 3 tables so they could all sit together. Marla Maples went to the bathroom and so did my wife (they made friends). While Donald stood there I got up and introduced myself and I shook his little hand. Nobody ever looked at me with such disgust as I shook his/her hand. It turns out he was a germaphobe.

The waiters got done rearranging the tables, my wife and Marla returned. The one thing I'll always also remember was that Trump's entourage did not sit down until he sat down at the head of the table, like he was a king.

OTOH, I'm glad I don't live in a swing state.

up
0 users have voted.

The political revolution continues

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

But then, we know more about her now, I guess, than in 2003--still, I don't think I would have wanted to shake her hand even then.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

tapu dali's picture

and not her personality.

I think that would be a "winninger" Smile strategy!

up
0 users have voted.

There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

She is a neoliberal warhawk that admires Kissenger and Goldwater. She is a shameless corporatist and a a favorite of AIPAC and the Koch brothers. She picks public policy by triangulation. Her daughter doesn't even know the basic facts about pot, but manages to spout off bullshit anyway. Her husband, and likely guru on the economy, is responsible for deregulation of banks that eventually led to The Great Recession.

Mainstream conservative Republicans are endorsing her. Former Republican presidents will vote for her.

I'd rather hear about HRC as a person. As a politician I loathe her.

up
0 users have voted.

Peace out, tmp.

The combination of the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 (repeal of Glass, Steagall) and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (leaving crap mortgage derivatives unregulated) was the cause of the economic collapse of several nations, including ours, in 2008. The Clinton White House and Greenspan lobbied hard for both because Clinton wanted to sign them, but wanted to be able to claim a veto-proof majority if they hit the fan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000

Sanders voted for Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 in the House, but the poison pill was not in the bill then. It went in as part of a Senate compromise. Ultimately, it got wrapped into a 2000 page bill, passage of which the Republicans demanded to stave off government shut down by then. (Only heaven knows what "bipartisan" shenanigans went on in every part of that bill.) Sanders voted for the 2000 page bill. Crooked Hillary had the nerve to throw that in his face during the debates and he did not rebut. Of course, if he had, he would have been called sexist for trying to associate her with Bill's administration.

up
0 users have voted.
mouselander's picture

Disagreeable as that may be. It's the sense of absolute contempt and disdain she routinely directs at the "little people" - at least, whenever there's not a TV camera rolling. The crappy way she behaves towards Secret Service agents, staff members, and lowly service personnel like cab drivers and waiters is well documented. And yet she is ostentatiously offering herself as a candidate who will fight unceasingly to promote the interests of average Americans. What's wrong with this picture?

up
0 users have voted.

inactive account

Late Again's picture

If the person you're with isn't nice to the waiter, they're not a nice person.

up
0 users have voted.

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain

tapu dali's picture

if the sniffy hoity-toity waiter puts you at a table next to the toilet, disdains your dinner request and ignores your wine order?

up
0 users have voted.

There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Late Again's picture

to have hoity-toity waiters and probably never will. Greasy spoon mom-and-pop restaurants are more my speed.

In a case like that - and in a place like that - if polite didn't work I'd demand the manager and make it clear that we are leaving, won't be back and do not expect to be charged for our awful experience.

up
0 users have voted.

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain

the big city (It was part of my job.)

The maitre d' may have been a snob in some places, but the wait staff was always very nice and eager to give good service. On the other hand, the two most inexcusably rude waitresses I've ever observed were serving people sitting on stools at a counter. (I have never received bad service, even at a counter, but I have seen it happen to others where I saw and heard the entire transaction--not a ton of privacy at a counter.)

Makes sense to me: For one thing, the tip for good service for $500 dinner plus wine for two is a lot larger than a tip for a cup of coffee, even if that cup was not slammed on a counter for no reason related to the customer (Love you, mom, and you still tipped her.). For another, the Ritz Carleton can be choosy about the staff it hires, Mike's Diner, maybe not as much.

On balance, though, my hat tip is to wait staff. I waited tables as a teen. It's very tiring work, even for a young, healthy student, and comes with many frustrations. If I get even halfway-decent service, I tend to overtip. So does everyone I know who has ever waited tables or tended bar. If I see an older person waiting tables, my tip goes up even more.

BTW, if it's any comfort, the best meals I've ever had were produced by home cooks on limited budgets, not by the chefs at the pricey places. Desserts at the top places tend to be more complex than those produced by a home cook and occasionally, a posh appetizer can be especially good; but my top prizes for the overall meal, especially the entree, go to the top home cooks I have been lucky enough to know.

up
0 users have voted.
Late Again's picture

I have been teaching myself to cook in earnest for the last six years - I mean serious cooking. Because I always wanted to, but also because I had to. I've been so successful that my husband never wants to go out to eat any more because he says he can't get a better meal in a restaurant.

It's nice to know others feel that way.

up
0 users have voted.

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain

Not fair if he will neither take you out nor make you a tasty meal. Tell him I said so! (As if that will do anything.)

I'm glad I said something good for a change!

up
0 users have voted.
gulfgal98's picture

Higher end restaurants are able train their staff better and the service is usually commensurate with the prices. It has been years since I was in one of those high end restaurants, but that was my experience. Well trained staff adds to the restaurant's bottom line too. As an anecdote, I distinctly remember attending a private event at a local restaurant where there were over 200 people in attendance. A little over a week later we went there for dinner but did not have a reservation. The only seating available without a long wait was at the bar. We sat down and the bartender remembered us from the private event the previous week. He even told us where we sat. I was amazed since we are very non-descript people so I asked how he remembered. He said it was part of his job to remember customers. A very professional staff person, he was and the restaurant benefits from staff like that.

up
0 users have voted.

Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Late Again's picture

to have hoity-toity waiters and probably never will. Greasy spoon mom-and-pop restaurants are more my speed.

In a case like that - and in a place like that - if polite didn't work I'd demand the manager and make it clear that we are leaving, won't be back and do not expect to be charged for our awful experience.

And I've got the classic INTJ death stare, so I'd totally pull it off.

up
0 users have voted.

"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain

tapu dali's picture

It was the day {E} and I celebrated her Mus.D. Neither of us were unsuitably attired (I was a prof) but this waiter just felt we were 'unsuitable' for his establishment.

Actually, the food and wine (in the end) turned out to be excellent.

I left the waiter 43c on his tray.

Pffftt.

up
0 users have voted.

There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

thanatokephaloides's picture

But what do you do if the sniffy hoity-toity waiter puts you at a table next to the toilet, disdains your dinner request and ignores your wine order?

Get up and leave. Make sure the waiter's boss sees and hears it. Call the boss on the phone if need be. Send the details to the food reviewers at the local papers, describing yourselves so the reviewers can duplicate you as best as possible.

Diablo

up
0 users have voted.

"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Fri, 09/30/2016 - 10:01pm — mouselander

What's worrisome is not her personality

Disagreeable as that may be. It's the sense of absolute contempt and disdain she routinely directs at the "little people" - at least, whenever there's not a TV camera rolling. The crappy way she behaves towards Secret Service agents, staff members, and lowly service personnel like cab drivers and waiters is well documented. And yet she is ostentatiously offering herself as a candidate who will fight unceasingly to promote the interests of average Americans. What's wrong with this picture?

Everything, of course. And personality and perceptions determine attitudes toward and treatment of others.

There's an old quote to the effect of "You can always tell a lady, dear, by the way she treats the servants." Meaning, of course, that one inconsiderate of/rude to dependents/those of lower social status had, as we say nowadays, no class.

That former First Lady evidently wasn't one.

And therefore she cannot form part of a 'government of, by and for the people' as is required for a legitimate government.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

IMO.

up
0 users have voted.
edg's picture

A politician's personality is often the driver of their policies. When someone doesn't like people, they don't mind bombing hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians to death in the Middle East. If someone feels superior to others, they see superpredators everywhere that need to be locked away in private prisons. For those who love money above humans, money matters and humans don't.

If those things aren't considerations for the presidency, I'm in the wrong country.

up
0 users have voted.

Sat, 10/01/2016 - 11:25am — edg

On the contrary...

A politician's personality is often the driver of their policies. When someone doesn't like people, they don't mind bombing hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians to death in the Middle East. If someone feels superior to others, they see superpredators everywhere that need to be locked away in private prisons. For those who love money above humans, money matters and humans don't.

If those things aren't considerations for the presidency, I'm in the wrong country.

Nailed it again! Except that TPTB making such things not considerations for any public office are the ones in the wrong country, in every country they infest/control.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Lenzabi's picture

So, yeah, she seems to not be a real people person, her lethal policy stances foreign policy wise. And the DNC is pushing that this year.

up
0 users have voted.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

She is not even a true woman!!!

up
0 users have voted.

up
0 users have voted.
TheOtherMaven's picture

She's cold and arrogant enough to be one.

up
0 users have voted.

There is no justice. There can be no peace.

The screen name translates to horse trader.

The poster has not replied to my query.

I won't speculate.

Yet.

up
0 users have voted.

develop a reluctance to shake hands. For one thing, their hands often get sore and swollen by the end of the day if they shake a lot of hands, as campaigners must. For another, they become germ conscious. Many doctors are certainly not crazy about shaking hands now that bugs we don't know how to kill are proliferating and contact with another's hands is often how they spread.

I shake hands warmly, if someone extends a hand, but I also do use sanitizer afterward, just not where the person whose hand I just shook can see me. I just don't touch anything or anyone else before I sanitize. Or, I decline to shake hands on the ground that I have not just washed my hands and I don't want to expose the other person ( when that is true). It's funny: the custom of shaking hands supposedly originated to show the other person that you had no weapon in your hand, but our hands now may be carrying weapons no one can see with the naked eye.

That she had to be told to shake hands is bizarre. That she insulted you by sanitizing in your presence is inexecusable, but I do get using sanitizer.

up
0 users have voted.
Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

as more virulent anti-bacterial resistant microbes become more prevalent.

The story reminds me of Massachusetts' Martha Coakley whose refusal to "shake hands in Fenway Park? In the cold?" pretty much lost her a Senate seat.

I'm sympathetic to those who would prefer to skip the hand shakes. One of the most chilling stories I ever read was recounted by the actress Gene Tierney of "Laura" fame who gave birth to a daughter born developmentally disabled and deaf after a fan with Rubella just had to shake her hand at a public appearance while she was pregnant.

up
0 users have voted.

" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

Sat, 10/01/2016 - 6:26am — Phoebe Loosinhouse

Hand shaking may go by the wayside in the near future

as more virulent anti-bacterial resistant microbes become more prevalent.

The story reminds me of Massachusetts' Martha Coakley whose refusal to "shake hands in Fenway Park? In the cold?" pretty much lost her a Senate seat.

I'm sympathetic to those who would prefer to skip the hand shakes. One of the most chilling stories I ever read was recounted by the actress Gene Tierney of "Laura" fame who gave birth to a daughter born developmentally disabled and deaf after a fan with Rubella just had to shake her hand at a public appearance while she was pregnant.

Agatha Christie did a murder mystery involving such a situation, discovered years afterward by the mother... My room-mate is currently coping with a hugely swollen forearm muscle (finally going down, after starting a series of additional aids) due to a staph infection from an accidental dog bite incurred (pun intentional, sorry) while breaking up a dog fight - on her second expensive bottle of antibiotics now.

Big infection from a small nick - nasty stuff going around... I'd suggested using Tea Tree Oil right afterward, but it dries her skin and she gets psoriasis, so she just used a pharma ointment... lots of such things often don't work well anymore.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

up
0 users have voted.

Please do! The reality and value of Her personal touch and deep empathy for the peons should be widely promoted.

Edit: usually, a lot of my recs seem to vanish here but none of my recs seem to be sticking at all today... assuming that this affects others as well, threads/people here are probably getting far more readers than show.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

I don't much like the term "conspiracy theory,"even though I tend to stick as closely to fact as I humanly can and, so far, have escaped its use as to anything I've posted.

A theory is a theory. You discredit it with facts and superior reasoning and analysis or you don't. You don't just stick the mocking "conspiracy theory" label on it and flounce off, as though you've accomplished something brilliant.

All that said, this is my biggest (ugh)"conspiracy theory" in my life: IMO, Obama and the DNC wanted to lose that seat. Yes, she was an awful candidate, but I don't think that was the whole story.

up
0 users have voted.

Thailand (and others) social custom of greeting by joining upright palms at the heart and nodding respect is a worthy alternative to handshaking. Not likely to happen in the west anytime soon...

up
0 users have voted.

bygorry

TheOtherMaven's picture

It hasn't been so long since that was an accepted greeting from inferior to superior - and in some places they still do it.

up
0 users have voted.

There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Sat, 10/01/2016 - 12:04pm — TheOtherMaven

Might bring back the bow/curtsy. though

It hasn't been so long since that was an accepted greeting from inferior to superior - and in some places they still do it.

They doubtless will, for Her Royal Coronation.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

up
0 users have voted.

don't much like the inferior/superior connotation. I would rather imagine it to be akin to bowing to the divine within each human. Or we could just nod pleasantly at each other, I suppose. That seems like an abbreviated, discreet bow.

up
0 users have voted.
vtcc73's picture

Several years ago, I can't remember precisely but I think it was 2010, I was the captain of an Atlanta to Amsterdam flight on the A330. The gate agent came on board a little earlier than usual to tell us that the former president would be going with us and that they would board him and his entourage before the rest of the passengers. She went on to say she hoped this would prevent us from being late off the gate and prevent missed down line connections. I must have had a questioning look because she quickly went on to explain that Jimmy always caused delays when he was on one of our flights. It was his standard practice to walk through the plane after it was boarded to shake every hand offered and have any conversation that arose. The purser and several of the senior flight attendants were nodding in knowing agreement. The purser said she'd had him on her flights many times and had never left the gate less than 45 minutes late.

There was a total of one couple, regular passengers, in first class while most of the rest of the seats were the Carter party and Secret Service. We weren't particularly full so boarding the rest of the plane went smoothly and quickly. Sure enough, Jimmy stood up as the last of the people trickled on and proceeded to head towards the back of the plane. I was at the boarding door talking over something with the gate agent and the purser. He didn't make it past us before his chief of staff pulled him aside. She said to him that he couldn't make us late. They had a very tight connection to Africa that couldn't be missed and that KLM would never hold the plane for them. She looked to me and I said that we had a only little slack in the flight time but very little ability to make up for a late departure. His shoulder sank and he sheepishly said he'd be quick. He turned around and within two steps that big grin spread across his face as he waded into crowd of amazed faces. True to his word we left right on time although I was told his chief of staff had to go back and pull him away.

These two stories show the difference between a proven humanitarian and a populist Democrat and a Republican, neocon, neoliberal, and entitled huckster pretending to be a progressive populist Democrat.

up
0 users have voted.

"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

mouselander's picture

Thanks for sharing it. The contrast between Carter's true humility and enjoyment of interactions with ordinary people, and HRC's mammoth superiority complex, and unconcealed contempt and disdain for the "little folk", could hardly be more dramatic.

No one should be the least bit surprised that the way she treats such non-entities in personal interactions will be reflected in how her administration treats them in terms of policy initiatives.

up
0 users have voted.

inactive account

vtcc73's picture

in those who see themselves as just another human being and those who see themselves as better than everyone else. Airline flying puts all kinds up close and personal whether you like it or not. I could hide behind the cockpit door if I wanted to but learned that we all had better lives if I supported the flight attendants in every way possible. They couldn't escape people. Many people are stressed or otherwise not at their best traveling because they are so out of their element and have no control over much of anything. I saw an important part of my job as being a lightening rod when needed. I'd do anything to take the focus off the flight attendants wherever possible. Few failed to appreciate it and we all were better off.

Two other short stories contrast the humans and those who only claim humanity. The first was during the crossing with Jimmy Carter. I took the second break that began about 3 1/2 hours out of Atlanta. The relief first officer took my seat acting as pilot in command in my absence. I left the 'pit and went back to splash some water in my face and eat dinner before taking a couple hour nap in the pilot bunk room. The service was long finished so I took my time in the lav. I came out to run face to face with the former president who had been waiting for some time to use the lav. I apologized for being so long and he immediately dismissed it as unnecessary. He was very gracious. I was still trying to get my meal when he came out and stopped to talk. I thanked him for all that he was doing in the world to make it a much better place for more people. I knew he was going to Africa to try to broker a peace in a civil war. I asked if he thought there was any chance of succeeding. He said that he frankly expected the African president was using him but that he had to go anyway. (He was spot on in his assessment.) He went on to talk about the issues when my food became available. He stopped right there and told me to go eat. He said to come talk afterward if I felt like it. I never got the chance.

I was about half way through dinner when one of my first officers called the bunk room saying we had a security message I needed to read right away. I went forward to find that a Middle East diplomat (Libyan IIRC)had made a very stupid comment about a shoe bomb to a flight attendant on a United flight. The entire US aviation system went into a higher security mode. Having an ex-president on board got us special attention. I ended up spending my sleep time funneling message traffic to the Secret Service detail. I couldn't have had a better experience. I spent most of that time speaking with the leader of the Secret Service detail. What a man and did he ever love Jimmy Carter. He said he'd been on presidential teams since Nixon and that he would not voluntarily leave Carter's unless forced to retire. I learned an amazing amount from him about Jimmy's work for people and peace. I hadn't known about the malaria and Guinea worm efforts until then. I can't imagine two more incredible human beings.

The contrasting story begins in Detroit. I'd left Sydney, Australia at about 1:00 PM local. We flew roughly 15 hours to LAX. The trip called for a layover before deadheading back to base which was not my home. I was released to go home and normally would have gone through Memphis but the flight was full and I got left at the gate. I was able to get a first class seat on the DC-10 going to Detroit which connected nicely to an available flight home. I'd be about an hour later than if I had waited for the next oversold Memphis flight. I'd already been up over 20 hours so getting home after being awake 31 hours instead of 30 didn't sound too bad. I always tried to keep moving if possible. A nap always made it harder.

I was also lucky in Detroit when I got the last first class seat in a row all to my self. Well, things aren't always as they seem. The gate agent announced we'd be slightly delayed while a VIP was boarded. A police escorted convoy of limos and a bus stopped at the jetway stairs. At the center of crowd that exited was none other than Johnny Cochran. He'd made a big speech in the city and was going my way - in the seat next to me. OK. I didn't look or smell too bad for having been going so long. I mean, I had gotten a chance to clean up some before boarding. I was still in a rumpled uniform but I've been in far worse.

Mr. Cochran evidently disagreed with my self assessment. I was in the window seat when he arrived, all smiles and chatty, until he stopped at his seat and looked at me. I don't think the man could have been more disgusted had I been an overripe Cleveland steamer in that seat. He immediately turned to the airline manager who had accompanied to board and demanded a different seat. Told this one was the last seat on the airplane he sat down very reluctantly as he continued to loudly express his displeasure. He never again looked my way.

Now there's a great human being. Coddled, celebrated, totally self absorbed, and self impressed just like the two major party presidential candidates. All three seem devoid of humility and humanity, always in search of something to increase their own personal payoff. They're true takers who prey on all of us while people like Jimmy Carter and his Secret Service detail leader give back every day of their lives.

up
0 users have voted.

"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

Pluto's Republic's picture

I've always liked stories about Jimmy Carter. Thanks for sharing these.

up
0 users have voted.
mouselander's picture

And no surprise that Johnny Cochran turns out to have been as big a jerk in private as he was in public. What's most depressing to me is the knowledge that those at the nexus of power in our society invariably seem to be arrogant, self-absorbed egomaniacs, while those in the public arena who possess such qualities as modesty, humility and compassion tend to be relegated to the fringes. Perhaps the "winning is the only thing that matters" mindset has become so widespread among the public that only the most ruthless and venal can rise to the top.

Even though I'm disappointed in Bernie Sanders for his fervent embrace of Clinton, I have to give him credit for running a campaign based on such old-fashioned ideals as community above self, lending a helping hand to those in need, and true accountability for those who now, for all practical purposes, are treated as being above the law. Although Bernie fell short, the most hopeful thing for me is the knowledge that those who were inspired by his campaign and his message are very unlikely to fall back into apathy and indifference - the stakes for them and for civilization as a whole are just way too high. One way or another, the movement for a more just, humane and sustainable society will continue.

up
0 users have voted.

inactive account

I went to one of her rallies that she was holding in Las Vegas in 2008 while running for President and was thinking about volunteering some time for her campaign. I got to the rally early so that I could get a place down front on the rope line. When she was finished, she walked the rope line and was shaking hands with others and signing campaign signs. When she got to me, I put my hand out and looked her in the eye while smiling and she backed away from me and looked down at the ground. The people next to me had a sign they wanted her to sign and she did and then moved along the rope line to the end. I will never forget how this make me feel and how cold she was in person. Needless to say, I did not devote a single minute of my time to her campaign and I have told this story often. So, I can identify totally with what you experienced.

up
0 users have voted.

Heidi Foglia

(((Librarycat)))

On the other hand, given who she is, take it as a compliment. Also:

What other people think of me is none of my business.

Often attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt and others, but seems actually to be by that great repository of wit and wisdom, Anonymous.

It's very true, but so hard to come to because of what social animals we are.

up
0 users have voted.