Here's' a Black Psy-Op for Christmas

In general I have to thank a few of the voices on this site for really opening up my eyes to the urgency of the antiwar efforts. It's not just about war -- as horrible as that is. It's also the single largest carbon producer on the planet. It's also the reason why we can't have nice things. It's also the reason things like terrorism are so prevalent and the west figures so prominently in the targets. And so when I stumbled across this little gem in newsweek, on Christmas Eve no less, I just wanted to spit.

On Monday, when the millions of Christians who follow the Gregorian calendar celebrate Christmas Eve, the Russian foreign ministry warned “it is quite possible” that Ukraine will launch military action against Russia in the next few days. Kremlin spokeswoman Maria Zakharova even suggested that Kiev was planning to stage chemical weapons attacks in eastern Ukraine as a pretext for launching an attack.
-- Newsweek

Yeah, taking note of Ukraine's little stunt in Sea of Azov recently sure, I can easily believe they are gearing up for another provocation. In fact, if they felt confident the US would back them up, it'd be a dead certainty that they will attack before the elections. The warning from Zakharova seems reasonable on the face of it. Poroshenko is virtually certain to lose the upcoming elections (which he has already delayed with his martial law). That'll be a blow to US Neonazi ambitions so it's easy to see why Poroshenko might well make a play expecting the US to bail him out.

Of course, what the Newsweek article actually says is the diametric opposite of opposite of what the Russian spokeswoman said AND what Russia has consistently said, both internally and externally.

RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR: MOSCOW COULD LAUNCH ARMED ATTACK OVER CHRISTMAS WHILE THE WORLD IS DISTRACTED, EXPERTS WARN
BY CRISTINA MAZA ON 12/24/18 AT 2:34 PM

As people in Western Europe and the United States get comfortable for the holidays, the chances increase that Russia will take advantage of the distraction to launch attacks against its neighbor Ukraine, experts said.

On Monday, when the millions of Christians who follow the Gregorian calendar celebrate Christmas Eve, the Russian foreign ministry warned “it is quite possible” that Ukraine will launch military action against Russia in the next few days. Kremlin spokeswoman Maria Zakharova even suggested that Kiev was planning to stage chemical weapons attacks in eastern Ukraine as a pretext for launching an attack.

But experts and Western military analysts said it was Russia that was likely to launch an attack on Ukraine.

What is, of course, missing from the entirety of this article not simply the parts I pulled, is any consideration whatsoever of context. There is no analysis of the geopolitical situation. There was simply the assertion that Russia may attack the Ukraine over Christmas because TWICE in the last 4 decades they have had the gall to schedule military operations that might conflict with people's vacation plans (no really, that was the reasoning).

For instance, there is no mention that Poroshenko is the leader of the Neonazi party which took over the Democratically elected government of Ukraine in a US backed coup. There is no mention of the ongoing domestic problems which drive is ~12% approval rating. There is no mention that Poroshenko is absolutely going to lose the election which is coming up in March if something doesn't upset the playing field.

Then, of course, there is this. Here's a short transcript of Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister being interview on Russian TV by two correspondents from the country’s tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, led by the former ‘bad girl’ of Russian journalism, war reporter and columnist Darya Aslamova.

Aslamova suggests that Russia should recognize Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in eastern Ukraine.
Lavrov: And then what?
Aslamova: Then we defend our territory that we recognized, help our fraternal nation.
Lavrov: And you want to lose the rest of Ukraine, leaving it to the neo-Nazis?

I'm not exactly detecting the vibe of blood thirsty conqueror here. Maybe in some of his next comments?

Aslamova: No. I think we should generally fight against the Nazi regime. They imposed a state of emergency against us. They attack our ships.
Lavrov: We are not going to go to war with Ukraine, I promise you that much.

Aslamova says that a “mirror response” to Poland’s legislation prescribing the demolition of Soviet-era World War II memorials should be the destruction of the Katyn cemetery, where thousands of Polish officers massacred by the NKVD in 1940 are buried.

Lavrov: Are you being serious?
Aslamova: Absolutely.
Lavrov: It’s a pity. I hoped you were speaking in jest.

Lavrov MOCKS these "journalists". He finds the ideas and questions not just "bad ideas" but stupid enough to mock. He states unequivocally they are not going to war in Russia because they want to deal with the Neonazis and war isn't going to get that job done.

Yes, NOW I see it... the foaming at the mouth Militarism that makes me so happy for the considered and thoughtful foreign policy planners like Bolton, Clinton, Mattis, or pretty much ANYONE in the US government except maybe 5 people. Yes yes, I know this sort of spin happens in thousands of stories every single day. But sheez, they took a quote that directly said, "Not going to war" and used to to say the Russians were going to war based on nothing.

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wendy davis's picture

was on the 17th. on my recent diary i'd found at the kyiv post via reuters that russia had sent 10 or so fighter jets to crimea. wondering if it might have reuters citing bellingct, i looked around, and finally found confirmation at press tv also dated dec. 17 quoting tass:

"Russian news agency Interfax said on Monday that Moscow had sent more than 10 Sukhoi SU-27 and SU-30 fighter jets to the overhauled Belbek air base in Crimea as part of a "permanent deployment."

The announcement came after Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in an interview that Ukraine was preparing an "armed provocation with Russia on the border with Crimea during the last ten days of December."

The state-run TASS news agency quoted Lavrov as saying that Moscow would not allow the Ukrainian government to act on those plans and "they will regret it."

The top Russian diplomat also said that his country "will not wage war against Ukraine," and accused Kiev of having “Nazi characteristics.”

"We are not fighting the Ukrainian regime," Lavrov said. "It is Ukrainian citizens living in Donbass who are fighting against the Ukrainian regime, which has full Nazi and neo-Nazi characteristics."

....which to me means russia means to defend crimea if necessary, not attack ukraine. but i hear people say, write similar things as you'd done: 'this is why we can't have nice things', but i really don't know what that means exactly.

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@wendy davis

but i hear people say, write similar things as you'd done: 'this is why we can't have nice things', but i really don't know what that means exactly.

This brouhaha in Ukraine started out as one of the myriad ethno-cultural time bombs the USSR and its successors inherited from Tsarism. Ukrainians aren't Russians and never have been. And they don't want to be Russians. (The nearly complete absence of the indigenous Crimeans, the Crimean Tatars, from Crimea doesn't help here, either.)

Then the US and Britain stuck their noses in, and really fucked things up. At ginormous cash expense to the US and British Peoples, I might add.

It is here that we encounter what is meant by "we can't have nice things". "We, the People of the United States of America in Congress assembled" spend more on the military necessary to support these foreign adventures than the entire rest of the world's COMBINED military spending. If we could keep a reasonable-sized military, close to home, and not shove our noses into every national dispute on Earth, the money we'd save would buy a LOT of nice things for us: national healthcare-as-a-right, tuition-free college, desperately needed infrastructure repairs, a seriously-needed refit of our energy delivery systems to renewable energy sources, etc.

But our powerful and investor-wealthy classes are so addicted to the profit$ of Forever War that we can't quit. Thus, we can't have nice things.

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@thanatokephaloides

'the nice things', but i'm not entirely sure that we don't have those things solely due to war profiteering, myself. i believe that's the biggest psyop of all, given the trillions of national debt.

the elites don't have to care if we have nice things (i'd thunk snapple might have meant...peace), does anyone pay any attention to 'balanced budgets'? but yes, the self-declared regions in the donbass identify as russian, speak russian. i can't speak intelligently about the tatars, but i have heard them noted as a cautionary tale.

iirc, in the one video transcript lavrov had apparently asked close to: "why should we recognize (novorussya)?" but that was one weird interview transcript.

on edit: yes, here it is:

Aslamova suggests that Russia should recognize Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in eastern Ukraine.
Lavrov: And then what?
Aslamova: Then we defend our territory that we recognized, help our fraternal nation.
Lavrov: And you want to lose the rest of Ukraine, leaving it to the neo-Nazis?

the other huge psyops, imo are: that there's such a thing as a winnable war, and 'limited nuclear war'.

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@wendy davis

What I personally meant was that we bankrupt ourselves for this bullshit so we can't have health care, education, retirement, etc.

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@SnappleBC

'nice things', they'd be simple human rights guarantees in most socialist nations. gasp: even in venezuela!

but i did dig a bit more into what lavrov may have meant, as it hadn't tallied with what i'd kinda/sorta remembered and found: ‘Russia close to recognizing Donetsk and Luhansk republics after Donbass elections’, Gordon Duff, Senior Editor, November 16, 2018

"From Pravda

Moscow has strengthened its position in Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics (LDNR) on Sunday, November 11. Now there are legitimate authorities in the republics, with which Russia can implement the project of the economic integration of the Donbass." [snip]

"Moscow has repeatedly reminded that Russia was only a guarantor of the Minsk Accords. Kiev shows unwillingness to implement them and even tries to kill those who signed the documents.

After the assassination of Alexander Zakharchenko, the head of the People’s Republic of Donetsk, the Kremlin lost its patience. Moscow eventually agreed to hold the elections in the breakaway territories on November 11, even though Russia had earlier declined such an opportunity in 2015 and 2016 at the request of Normandy format “partners.”

The turnout at the election was over 70 percent. Kremlin officials said that they could “understand” the aspirations of republican residents. One can read between the lines here that Russia’s economic integration with the region is inevitable. The people of the Donbass have deserved their sovereignty, and Moscow can see it." [snip]

"It is worthy of note that President Putin signed a decree approving the new Concept of the State Migration Policy for 2019-2025. The policy will simplify the acquisition of Russian citizenship for Russians in the Donbas. After the distribution of passports, the situation will develop according to the scenario of the integration of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. It is worthy of note that Hungary follows a similar practice distributing passports to Hungarians in Transcarpathia.

In five years, Donbass will be de facto integrated with Russia economically. The legal integration is a long process, but it will accelerate with the collapse of Ukraine or its pro-Russian transformation, if this can ever be possible.

Denis Pushilin gained 61 percent of the vote in the election of the head of the People’s Republic of Donetsk, whereas Leonid Pasechnik won the support of 68 percent in Luhansk.

We may suggest that Putin will recognise the independence of People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk to trigger their swift economic integration with Russia if the West continues putting the pressure of sanctions on Russia."

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Russia again so NATO will have an excuse to come to his aid. Xmas is about the recognition of the prince of peace and yet it seems like the world is sitting on a powder keg. Isn't there going to be a false flag in Donbas too soon? Gahh.. can't we have the rest of the year off from the insanity?

Ray McGovern is worried about Julian being abducted over the holidays when everyone is distracted by Xmas.

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@snoopydawg

Seems to originate in western nations nowadays? Aren't I supposed to be afraid of (wait wait... it'll come to me....)

  • Russia
  • Iran
  • China
  • North Korea

Is that today's roster?

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@SnappleBC

The amount of propaganda that we have been exposed to this year has been off the charts. No matter what us or our allies do Russia gets blamed for it. And then people believe it. Both May and Merkle have said that Russia has been very naughty and they will hold them accountable.

Trump pulled out of the Inf treaty right? Macron, Merkle and May tell him it's a bad move and yet when Russia brings up a vote at the UN about it all 3 votes against them. Scratch one-s head

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Trump has been sending weapons to Ukraine and recently sent more after Obama thought it would be to provocative to do that. I guess he draws the line at violent coups and arming and supporting neo Nazis.

Ukraine May Attack in Coming Days

Along the same lines, last week in an interview with Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda, as reported on FRN, Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov expressed concern about the strengthening of the Ukrainian Armed Forces grouping in the Donbass, as well as Kiev’s active preparations for possible military actions against the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics.

According to him, such steps of the Ukrainian authorities are aimed primarily at organizing armed provocations on the contact line, as well as on the Russian-Ukrainian border in the region of the Republic of Crimea, in order to extend martial law, which expires tomorrow on December 25th of this year.

An extension of the martial law regime will allow the low ranking President of Ukraine Poroshenko to postpone the holding of presidential elections.

Literally on the same day, December 17th, at a meeting with students from the city of Dnepr (the former city of Dnepropetrovsk), Poroshenko confirmed the fact of the additional transfer of a number of military units of the Ukrainian armed forces to the Donbass. Kiev no longer hides its aggressive intentions.

Every day, news comes about the increasing activity of the Ukrainian military along the entire contact line in the Donbass, especially in the Mariupol and Gorlovka areas. It cannot be ruled out that in the coming days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may move to full-scale hostilities.

Numerous experts published on FRN confirm that these concerns are justified, based on past experience and a sober read of the situation. Poroshenko can only maintain his present position, or hope even to improve it, by creating some basis for extended martial law. Through an increase in fighting with rebels, and by painting these as Russian agents and assets, Poroshenko would be best served if he manages to see this through in order to delay elections indefinitely.

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the pentagon failing its first audit (did anyone care?), the the many faces of #debt ceiling, how the fed monetizes the national debt (QEs and more), but in the end: none of it matters.

they spend what they like for war, an no one cares, especially not...the D team. there's always enough money for...War, Inc.

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