Here's' a Black Psy-Op for Christmas
In general I have to thank a few of the voices on this site for really opening up my eyes to the urgency of the antiwar efforts. It's not just about war -- as horrible as that is. It's also the single largest carbon producer on the planet. It's also the reason why we can't have nice things. It's also the reason things like terrorism are so prevalent and the west figures so prominently in the targets. And so when I stumbled across this little gem in newsweek, on Christmas Eve no less, I just wanted to spit.
On Monday, when the millions of Christians who follow the Gregorian calendar celebrate Christmas Eve, the Russian foreign ministry warned “it is quite possible” that Ukraine will launch military action against Russia in the next few days. Kremlin spokeswoman Maria Zakharova even suggested that Kiev was planning to stage chemical weapons attacks in eastern Ukraine as a pretext for launching an attack.
-- Newsweek
Yeah, taking note of Ukraine's little stunt in Sea of Azov recently sure, I can easily believe they are gearing up for another provocation. In fact, if they felt confident the US would back them up, it'd be a dead certainty that they will attack before the elections. The warning from Zakharova seems reasonable on the face of it. Poroshenko is virtually certain to lose the upcoming elections (which he has already delayed with his martial law). That'll be a blow to US Neonazi ambitions so it's easy to see why Poroshenko might well make a play expecting the US to bail him out.
Of course, what the Newsweek article actually says is the diametric opposite of opposite of what the Russian spokeswoman said AND what Russia has consistently said, both internally and externally.
RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR: MOSCOW COULD LAUNCH ARMED ATTACK OVER CHRISTMAS WHILE THE WORLD IS DISTRACTED, EXPERTS WARN
BY CRISTINA MAZA ON 12/24/18 AT 2:34 PM
As people in Western Europe and the United States get comfortable for the holidays, the chances increase that Russia will take advantage of the distraction to launch attacks against its neighbor Ukraine, experts said.On Monday, when the millions of Christians who follow the Gregorian calendar celebrate Christmas Eve, the Russian foreign ministry warned “it is quite possible” that Ukraine will launch military action against Russia in the next few days. Kremlin spokeswoman Maria Zakharova even suggested that Kiev was planning to stage chemical weapons attacks in eastern Ukraine as a pretext for launching an attack.
But experts and Western military analysts said it was Russia that was likely to launch an attack on Ukraine.
What is, of course, missing from the entirety of this article not simply the parts I pulled, is any consideration whatsoever of context. There is no analysis of the geopolitical situation. There was simply the assertion that Russia may attack the Ukraine over Christmas because TWICE in the last 4 decades they have had the gall to schedule military operations that might conflict with people's vacation plans (no really, that was the reasoning).
For instance, there is no mention that Poroshenko is the leader of the Neonazi party which took over the Democratically elected government of Ukraine in a US backed coup. There is no mention of the ongoing domestic problems which drive is ~12% approval rating. There is no mention that Poroshenko is absolutely going to lose the election which is coming up in March if something doesn't upset the playing field.
Then, of course, there is this. Here's a short transcript of Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister being interview on Russian TV by two correspondents from the country’s tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, led by the former ‘bad girl’ of Russian journalism, war reporter and columnist Darya Aslamova.
Aslamova suggests that Russia should recognize Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in eastern Ukraine.
Lavrov: And then what?
Aslamova: Then we defend our territory that we recognized, help our fraternal nation.
Lavrov: And you want to lose the rest of Ukraine, leaving it to the neo-Nazis?
I'm not exactly detecting the vibe of blood thirsty conqueror here. Maybe in some of his next comments?
Aslamova: No. I think we should generally fight against the Nazi regime. They imposed a state of emergency against us. They attack our ships.
Lavrov: We are not going to go to war with Ukraine, I promise you that much.Aslamova says that a “mirror response” to Poland’s legislation prescribing the demolition of Soviet-era World War II memorials should be the destruction of the Katyn cemetery, where thousands of Polish officers massacred by the NKVD in 1940 are buried.
Lavrov: Are you being serious?
Aslamova: Absolutely.
Lavrov: It’s a pity. I hoped you were speaking in jest.
Lavrov MOCKS these "journalists". He finds the ideas and questions not just "bad ideas" but stupid enough to mock. He states unequivocally they are not going to war in Russia because they want to deal with the Neonazis and war isn't going to get that job done.
Yes, NOW I see it... the foaming at the mouth Militarism that makes me so happy for the considered and thoughtful foreign policy planners like Bolton, Clinton, Mattis, or pretty much ANYONE in the US government except maybe 5 people. Yes yes, I know this sort of spin happens in thousands of stories every single day. But sheez, they took a quote that directly said, "Not going to war" and used to to say the Russians were going to war based on nothing.
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i did check, and that interview (according to youtube)
was on the 17th. on my recent diary i'd found at the kyiv post via reuters that russia had sent 10 or so fighter jets to crimea. wondering if it might have reuters citing bellingct, i looked around, and finally found confirmation at press tv also dated dec. 17 quoting tass:
....which to me means russia means to defend crimea if necessary, not attack ukraine. but i hear people say, write similar things as you'd done: 'this is why we can't have nice things', but i really don't know what that means exactly.
what that means exactly
This brouhaha in Ukraine started out as one of the myriad ethno-cultural time bombs the USSR and its successors inherited from Tsarism. Ukrainians aren't Russians and never have been. And they don't want to be Russians. (The nearly complete absence of the indigenous Crimeans, the Crimean Tatars, from Crimea doesn't help here, either.)
Then the US and Britain stuck their noses in, and really fucked things up. At ginormous cash expense to the US and British Peoples, I might add.
It is here that we encounter what is meant by "we can't have nice things". "We, the People of the United States of America in Congress assembled" spend more on the military necessary to support these foreign adventures than the entire rest of the world's COMBINED military spending. If we could keep a reasonable-sized military, close to home, and not shove our noses into every national dispute on Earth, the money we'd save would buy a LOT of nice things for us: national healthcare-as-a-right, tuition-free college, desperately needed infrastructure repairs, a seriously-needed refit of our energy delivery systems to renewable energy sources, etc.
But our powerful and investor-wealthy classes are so addicted to the profit$ of Forever War that we can't quit. Thus, we can't have nice things.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
thanks for naming
'the nice things', but i'm not entirely sure that we don't have those things solely due to war profiteering, myself. i believe that's the biggest psyop of all, given the trillions of national debt.
the elites don't have to care if we have nice things (i'd thunk snapple might have meant...peace), does anyone pay any attention to 'balanced budgets'? but yes, the self-declared regions in the donbass identify as russian, speak russian. i can't speak intelligently about the tatars, but i have heard them noted as a cautionary tale.
iirc, in the one video transcript lavrov had apparently asked close to: "why should we recognize (novorussya)?" but that was one weird interview transcript.
on edit: yes, here it is:
the other huge psyops, imo are: that there's such a thing as a winnable war, and 'limited nuclear war'.
Well, when I said "we can't have nice things"
What I personally meant was that we bankrupt ourselves for this bullshit so we can't have health care, education, retirement, etc.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
to me those aren't just
'nice things', they'd be simple human rights guarantees in most socialist nations. gasp: even in venezuela!
but i did dig a bit more into what lavrov may have meant, as it hadn't tallied with what i'd kinda/sorta remembered and found: ‘Russia close to recognizing Donetsk and Luhansk republics after Donbass elections’, Gordon Duff, Senior Editor, November 16, 2018
The Atlantic Crackpots are encouraging Pork to provoke
Russia again so NATO will have an excuse to come to his aid. Xmas is about the recognition of the prince of peace and yet it seems like the world is sitting on a powder keg. Isn't there going to be a false flag in Donbas too soon? Gahh.. can't we have the rest of the year off from the insanity?
Ray McGovern is worried about Julian being abducted over the holidays when everyone is distracted by Xmas.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
How come everything I fear in the world
Seems to originate in western nations nowadays? Aren't I supposed to be afraid of (wait wait... it'll come to me....)
Is that today's roster?
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
You're not feeling manipulated are you?
The amount of propaganda that we have been exposed to this year has been off the charts. No matter what us or our allies do Russia gets blamed for it. And then people believe it. Both May and Merkle have said that Russia has been very naughty and they will hold them accountable.
Trump pulled out of the Inf treaty right? Macron, Merkle and May tell him it's a bad move and yet when Russia brings up a vote at the UN about it all 3 votes against them.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Yep Donbass
Trump has been sending weapons to Ukraine and recently sent more after Obama thought it would be to provocative to do that. I guess he draws the line at violent coups and arming and supporting neo Nazis.
Ukraine May Attack in Coming Days
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
ah, i just did a reminder crash course of
the pentagon failing its first audit (did anyone care?), the the many faces of #debt ceiling, how the fed monetizes the national debt (QEs and more), but in the end: none of it matters.
they spend what they like for war, an no one cares, especially not...the D team. there's always enough money for...War, Inc.