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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:48pm

Nobody I know says that Big Pharma

@Fishtroller 02

never produces effective, useful medications.

If you're looking for multibillionaires who produce nothing useful, try the insurance industry.

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 10:23am

It's their version of

a weakened ivermectin @enhydra lutris . They got to make more and more money somehow so let's bastardize ivermectin - yippee!

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:45am

I’m getting a kick out of the people who

@Raggedy Ann
Poo pood ivermectin and said that an anti viral won’t do anything for Covid infections. But now they have not only fully embraced it, but they are wondering if the anti vaxxers will line up to take it even though it’s still considered experimental and not seeing how the script has been changed right in front of them. If that type didn’t work in the past why do they think it’ll work now? Isn’t there a word for this type of thinking?

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:53am

Covid is all about

@snoopydawg control. How can we be controlled - medically is the answer. Put the fear of death in front of people and they melt like butter. The American people have lost all critical thinking skills, but that was part of the plan of tptb. It's working but I'm not buying. I have ivermectin at home - the real deal, because I have a doctor who has maintained his critical thinking skills.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:26pm

A quibble; Ivermectin, originally and afaik

still, is/was an anti-parasitic, not an anti-viral.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 7:59am

Ivermectin has several anti-viral properties

@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris
The Pfizer ~~vaccine~~ pill is working on one of those properties.

Lots of drugs have had off-label beneficial uses. Aspirin was originaly manufactured for relief of pain, fever, and inflammation. In 1950 Dr. Craven noticed that his tonsillectomy patients who chewed Aspergum as an analgesic suffered from extensive bleeding. So he started recommending aspirin for thrombosis (blood clotting) in his patients. But it was only in the mid 1980's that a meta-analysis was finally done to prove Dr. Craven correct after 30 years.

Even I have been prescribed aspirin since my ischemic stroke as a preventative. Of course I could have purchased Plavix instead at 20 times the cost. I opted with the aspirin.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:49pm

Well, now it's being put out by an authorized source.

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Sort of like believing what you hear on CNN but bitching about all those nasty people on YouTube spreading misinformation.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 10:26pm

Spot on

Sort of like believing what you hear on CNN but bitching about all those nasty people on YouTube spreading misinformation.

By Jove I think you nailed the problem to the barn door! Well done.

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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 12:56pm

To the church door, more like :-)

Eine minuten, bitte.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:53am

Is there any evidence for that? They already make

@enhydra lutris
https://johnroulac.substack.com/p/pharmas-culture-war/

regular Ivermectin and human versions. They have been distributing it for free for the treatment of Onchocerciasis and lymphatic filariasis in those areas where those conditions are endemic since sometime in the eighties.

They, btw, issued this statement in February and don't appear to have backed off from or modified it:

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information. ...

[much more]

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:08pm

Here's great information

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:32pm

I'm sorry, but that doesn't provide any information on

what's in Merck's new pill at all. It's really just the same old stuff and was published before Merck, who manufactures the same Ivermectin that everybody is so hot to take, announced that they had a new pill out.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 1:16pm

Watch these videos

@enhydra lutris
since you didn’t watch the others.
https://rumble.com/user/CriticallyThinking

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 2:10pm

I don't need help with critically thinking, I've been doing it

https://thesaker.is/pandemic-political-and-economic-consequences-underne...

almost all of my life. I am, however, an empiricist, a position I arrived at via critical thinking. I know Big Pharma, and the government and most other things like big insurance, big banking, etc. are generally criminal and worse. Nonetheless I can't accept assertions like Tylenol is just watered down aspirin, or Merck's new pill is just watered down IVM simply because they're bad and that would be bad so they must have done that. Part of being an empiricist is relying upon evidence, in this case, evidence as to what is and isn't in the new pill.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 2:38pm

Here ya go el-

@enhydra lutris
From The Saker:

I believe Pfizer came out with some therapeutic in the form of 2 anti-viral tablets. Most suspect that it is simply Ivermectin and it is jokingly called Pfizermectin.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/08/2021 - 6:03pm

First, not evidence of anything, one guy's opinion that

"Most think" that something he "thinks" Pfizer made is Ivermectin isn't evidence about anything Pfizer made, let alone about anything that Merck made. Trump thinks that a lot of folk think he won the election, but that ain't evidence that he did.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:23pm

And yet they are making one that does

the same thing. If ivermectin doesn’t work then why will their new one work? Isn’t there a fallacy in that argument? They are both anti virals right? Color me confused.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:39pm

I'm assuming that the new one is an anti-viral, Ivermectin is

Recent reviews of studies IVM, some as anti virals.

not. IVM is an anti-parasitic, which some assert to also have antiviral properties, but its efficacy in that role is far from universally accepted. Its efficacy as an anti-parasitic, is unquestioned. There is a difference. Anti-parasitics poison nemadotes, flatworms, amoebas and other small to minuscule creatures that are fully capable of reproduction on their own and all of that other good stuff. Antivirals generally interfere with the ability of virii to penetrate cells, use cellular machinery to replicate them, or simply flag them for phages to come eat them.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 1:17pm

Hey there el,

@enhydra lutris For historical reasons, like MERS, West Nile, and other viral infections, apparently IVM has been studied since the 1990s as both an anti viral and an anti inflammatory medicine.

The reason is that it apparently has a wide spectrum of action. In the anti viral at the molecular level it occupies the ACE receptor site which the Spike protein goes to to anchor the virus or other viruses.

Please don't put me in the anti vaxx category for proffering this set of information. It is not the mother lode but may have some information to answer your question which I believe is in good faith.

If you want more info, I will try my best to get you original studies on IVM as anti viral.

Thank you for your best intentions.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 1:56pm

Good morning Dawn. I'm aware that it is asserted that it

@Dawn's Meta

has off label efficacy as an anti-viral. However, those questioning its utility haven't

Poo pood ivermectin and said that an anti viral won’t do anything for Covid infections.

They didn't ever say that anti-virals can't work and they were poo pooing Ivermectin the ON LABEL anti-parasitic.

Thanks for the info all the same.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by CB on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 4:01pm

Merck's new anti COVID pill

@Dawn's Meta
works by screwing up replication of the SARS-CoV2 virus. Their new drug causes errors during RNA transcription and ends up causing so many mutations that replication produces defective viruses which are not viable.

Ivermectin works by preventing the virus from gaining entrance to the cell by coating the spike proteins and ACE2 receptors which stops replication.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 5:59pm

So, seemingly not just watered down IVM,

@CB

thanks CB

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by CB on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 8:57pm

The Pfizer pill works similar to

@enhydra lutris
ivermectin. They are both protease inhibitors. (Ivermectin also coats the virus, binding to the spike protein, which prevents it from entering cells both via the ACE2 receptor and the CD147 receptor. Second, it inhibits RNA polymerase.)

Pfizer’s Oral COVID-19 Drug may Interact Similarly to Ivermectin
However, evidence suggests they both may not be effective against SARS-COV2's Protease

Pfizer’s new SARS-COV2 drug named PF-07321332 has been compared to Ivermectin and has caused concern about a generic therapeutic having slight modifications in order to become patented.
...

Submitted by ovals49 on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 10:32am

This bit is concerning and hard for me to make sense of…

However, an independent group of medical experts monitoring the trial recommended stopping it early because the interim results were so encouraging.

Hopefully this does not refer to long term surveillance of the trial participants for unexpected side effects. I wouldn’t want to see a repeat of the hurried EUA rollout with scant follow up data we saw with the vaccines. We need to get back to good solid evidence based reviews and approvals process and give it the time that is necessary to accomplish that.

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Submitted by wokkamile on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:14am

All the fed public health

@ovals49 entities have long ago been corrupted by Big Pharma. They have no credibility with me so anything they approve or put on an EUA will be suspect in my view. I'll continue to seek the views of truly independent medical-scientific voices, and continue to take my IVM for as long as it's still possible to get it. Hard to beat safe, effective and cheap.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:50am

Heh….

@ovals49

Maybe Merck just copied the old ivermectin reports that they wrote long ago since they seem to have been made from the same things.

But some trials do end early if the results are overwhelming. I was involved in the macular degeneration study in the 80’s that was looking into laser treatment for it and the results were so good they stopped the trial and the rest is history.

But like I said they might be using the information from the ivermectin trials if it’s comparable to it. We knew that this was coming. I thought a few more months tho.

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Submitted by ovals49 on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 6:37pm

NYT reporting that Merck is seeking EUA for their new pill.

@ovals49

Perfect; Another EUA rush job, protected from liability, and profitable @ $700.00per person, paid for with our Federal tax dollars.

Bend over and brace yourself, as George Carlin would say.

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 10:06am

OK... here goes..

I can't comment on best blues guitarist... to many names and too little expertise on my part.

Best rock guitarist...Jimmy Page

Best album.... The Eagles Desperado.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 10:44am

Tough questions compadre, I think no answers are possible, but

Somebody once asked Clapton what it felt like to be the best guitarist in the world and he said "I dunno, ask Prince".

Every sub-genra and era has its master
There's the guy who invented Travis picking, aka clawhammer, for example, or that Les Paul dude, though they aren't really responsive to the questions asked.

Piedmont Blues: Blind Boy Fuller and/or his protege
Chicago Blues: arguably invented by Uncle Mud
12 string country blues has to be Huddie
what Elmore James?

The question always tends to kick up the masters of the fast tricky runs, the Alvin Lee, Jeff Beck, SRV types though a lot of blues masters swear it is the silences and the notes not played, so where does that leave one?

I have to listen to tons of you tubes to pick songs for my Monday OTs, make sure they aren't cut-off and stuff like that. While listening I sometimes read the comments just for grins.
So one day I'm listening to one of the Innovators, sometimes known by that title, and some obviously youngish commenter says "Wow, that sounds just like "I Want Candy"" and I thought hell, kid it sounds like about 1/3 of all rock and roll. Same dude, however, also wrote "Before you Accuse Me", so maybe he should get a nod here too. I mean really, who is this?

Johnny Freaking Otis even gave the man credit for it

Still Don't Know?

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:56pm

Well damn! I wasn't thinking that far back.

If we're gonna include the old blues guitarists--

There are just too many great guitarists. And I haven't even looked into the jazz guys (unless you want to call Terry Kath a jazz guitarist.)

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-- Fiver

Submitted by NYCVG on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 11:35am

Question on Vaccine Mandates/Passports

Will these be a permanent part of our life now?

No matter what happens with Covid?

"Good Citizenship Passes? If so, who needs microchips in us........

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NYCVG

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:19pm

I suspect that nobody here can really answer that

@NYCVG

except in a qualified sense, and I'm not even sure what it means.

Passports, afaik, aren't needed in the US, except insofar as certain establishments and facilities may demand that you provide one to get entry. I'm flying across the country later in the year and the airline has made no mention of any such, but I do believe that one or two local restaurants say they will ask for them. HOWEVER, other countries may demand them and They Are Old News globally There are places that have required them for various diseases since long before covid. I got my first one in 2008 for a trip to Kenya.

Mandates. Also long with us. Certain occupations and facilities have required vaccines for decades, but those mandates mostly come from the states and generally have to do with schools and medical facilities. The Feds do, however, require certain vaccinations as a precondition for receiving a green card and for military service plus whatever Biden has decreed.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by wokkamile on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 5:56pm

Well in places like NYC

@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris and SF the vaccine mandates are not limited to a few local eateries but rather are extensive in scope. LA is about to vote on a mandate proposal even more sweeping -- restaurants, bars, theaters, gyms, salons, museums etc. The LA health director assures everyone this does not involve any coercion -- no, of course not -- as he likens the mandates to health laws preventing indoor smoking. They're just trying to protect the innocent, in this case the vaccinated, who it turns out apparently aren't much helped by being vaccinated. Maybe not even with a 3d one.

Left unsaid, as usual with pro-mandate supporters, is the small fact that vaccinees can also contract, carry and spread the virus. According to one or two studies, maybe with a much higher viral load than the unwashed, er unvaccinated.

Perhaps pols -- who give every impression of being poorly counseled and richly bought off -- just want to give the appearance that they are aggressively trying to tackle a major problem, while privately they harbor serious doubts.

But it's clear even to an 8 yo that the vaccine mandates are coercion and do represent the heavy hand of the state in compelling its citizens to inject experimental, unsafe drugs into their bodies in order to keep their jobs. Imo Ds will pay a heavy political price for overplaying the mandate hand to the extent that these laws are hitting public employee and union members hard and as the vaccines are not being enthusiastically embraced in the Black and Latino communities, all hardcore Dem groups that will be needed come election time.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 5:50pm

Newson has just made mandatory

@wokkamile

Kids to be vaccinated against Covid even though it’s not authorized for kids yet. Following the science or making the rules before science catches up with the rules? And let’s just ignore the possibility of myocardial problems in young males. Gee it’s almost like they are making things up as they go.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 6:09pm

details, details --

California will require all schoolchildren to get a COVID vaccine once fully approved

(npr, my emnphasis)

California to mandate COVID-19 vaccine for school kids after FDA approval

(the hill, my emphasis)

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- California will soon require all students in both public and private schools to get the COVID-19 vaccine once the shot is fully authorized by the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) for different age groups.

abc7/kgo

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 6:22pm

True

But still it’s being mandated for something that no one knows the long term consequences and for people in a very low risk group. And it’s being talked about mandated before they get authorization. Like I said science after the decision. Britain’s FDA said no to giving kids the vaccines but Boris overruled them.

How can you give authorization before the trials are finished? Or when they gave people in the CONTROL group the vaccines before they were? None of this makes sense. No vaccines have been authorized before long term studies have been completed and most have taken over a decade to get it. Smallpox was over a century. If this makes sense to anyone I’m stunned. The current ones are less than a year or just over it.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 6:25pm

As for the Pfizer authorization

It’s not even being given yet because they haven’t made it yet. The ones being given are still under EAU. Tell me how that makes sense. This isn’t really following the science nor is it about keeping people alive. More of the numbers of hospitalization are in the people who have been vaccinated.

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Submitted by wokkamile on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 6:13pm

I began to get concerned

@snoopydawg a few days after Recall (which I opposed) he made some statement to the effect that Now it's time to act boldly ... I got the impression he was referencing Covid, and I was right. And this news is made on a late Fri aft, News Dump Time for pols who announce a dicey policy move for which they expect some non-trivial pushback. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-require-covid-vaccine-pu...

Quite a risk for the kids' health, and politically risky for Newsom and Ds. Looks like a lose-lose situation for both groups.

Did any of these pols get the memo that these vaccines are based on an outdated variant and are experimental and were rushed through in months, not the usual years, and that the vaccines have a short shelf life of effectiveness, which was always exaggerated from the outset, and that finally vaccinees also can carry and spread the disease? And aren't kids the least vulnerable to getting the virus or getting seriously ill from it?

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 5:46pm

Feinstein just wrote a bill

@NYCVG

for airline travel one must be vaccinated. lol she couldn’t write a grocery list anymore, but sure she wrote that one. Remember she actually did write a bill for harsh penalties for animal rights activists.

How is it that congress doesn’t have a procedure in place for members who can’t do their job anymore? DiFi should have been ousted long ago.

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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 1:28pm

I get really irritated

that everybody (all the politicians, media, etc.) is focusing on the vaccine rather than on masking. If you're gonna do something authoritarian (and why not, they're already doing about 50,000 authoritarian things an hour) you may as well do an authoritarian thing that might increase our chances of survival; especially since the 50,000 authoritarian things they're already doing are putting our survival chances right in the trash can.

It's pretty well established that wearing N95 masks helps you not get the virus, if you're wearing them correctly. It's pretty well established that the masks get more helpful the more people are wearing them in any given space. So why don't we subsidize companies to produce large amounts of those masks, provide public education (in school and out) on how to wear them right, and make the mandates about masking rather than vaccination?

If everybody on a plane is correctly masked, what are the chances that someone on the plane will contract the disease?

It's not a perfect answer, but nothing is. And it's a hell of a lot easier to enforce. Or it would be if those in charge decided to use the endemic security measures that they've put just about everywhere in the past twenty years to enforce mask use instead of demanding that private businesses, both small and large, send their unarmed employees out to enforce mask mandates. And, no, I'm not in support of those endemic security measures. If I had the choice, I'd choose for all the changes made since 9/11 to be reversed, and to return to the security conditions we had before that event (which weren't great, but were far better than this shitshow). But as long as we're living in this benighted security state, it may as well be run rationally, and in favor of increasing our survival chances, rather than decreasing them.

As far as mask mandates damaging people's freedoms, I'd say, yes, people are giving up some measure of freedom if they are required to wear masks. But then again, if you insist on the freedom to walk around everywhere unmasked, you're taking my freedom away. It's because of people doing that that I am under a condition of near-house arrest, going nowhere except to the doctor, the grocery store, and my mother's house, because no one in my family can take the chance of catching the virus, one of us being an organ transplant patient.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 12:21pm

So Johnny -- only the dose? What about dese and dem?

asking for a different friend

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 2:31pm

This is how I feel

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 10/01/2021 - 3:12pm

holy moly, say the magic word and win $100 -

@gjohnsit

He said apparatus, snerk, and "what do you want to get out of the apparatus"?
I'd certainly like to get out of the apparatus, that's for sure, but, the apparatus, eh? heh

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 12:48pm

This machine can only swallow money.