Friday Open Thread ~ "What are you watching and who are you listening to?" edition ~ An evening with Shane Claiborne
I choose to call myself PhillyBluesFan out of a great appreciation for that earthy American musical tradition and because my wife and because I spent 15 good years living just on the edge of metropolitan Philadelphia. You could reach our former home by taking the second exit off I95 just across the Delaware state line. It is interesting that we were sandwiched between Chester, Pa on one side and Swarthmore, Pa on the other.
Among my fondest memories of that experience would have to be the evenings I spent teaching decision making to one inmate at a time inside a prison in Chester and the days I spent helping put together a small independent magazine that was published on a shoestring in what used to be a North Philly rowhouse ... the original location of THE SIMPLE WAY.
One of the other unique to Philadelphia paces I used to frequent was the Quaker retreat center at Pendle Hill. I'd sit in their quiet library, listening to a podcast on my smartphone or reading books from the stacks.
After this bit of personal introduction, I invite you to listen in on a recorded Zoom conversation with Shane Claiborne. He lives in the neighborhood where we assembled CONSPIRE
An evening with Shane Claiborne
[archived Pendle Hill video chat]
Our faith is not just a way of believing. It is a way of living in the world. Christians are meant to be non-conformists, interrupting the patterns of our world with prophetic imagination. We should be a holy counterculture. Shane will share stories of contemporary communities who are living with beautiful creativity and sometimes getting in a little trouble for it. After all, the Kingdom of God is not just something we hope for when we die, but something that we are to bring on earth as it is in heaven.
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Good morning C99
Sounds like fruitful times pbf ...the simple way. Must admit I prefer my backwoods condition to the city life, but hey each to their own.
I've been enjoying these young folks from LA, Reina del Cid
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnaLUMHN7Nw]
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning Lookout, thanks for the vid. I love the name,
even after I checked and found out that the Cid in question is what she named her guitar (which is cool in itself). Also love the opening shot with HOWL prominently displayed on the bookshelf.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
2021 = the semicentennial of The Farm Community in Summertown TN
https://thefarmcommunity.com/the-beginning/
2021 also = the centennial of the Communist Party of China.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-01-11/CPC-s-Shanghai-birthplace-renovate...
Dragon to Eagle: “I’ll see your July 4, 1776, and raise you a July 1921, No. 76 — Xingye Road.”
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I've known many people from The Farm
...over the years....including some children (now adults with their own kids) who were born there. Here's another link http://www.thefarm.org/about-our-community/ which includes loti's
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
That’s the OTHER intentional community I sorta missed my window
of opportunity to join, Svanholm in Denmark being the more adjacent one in space and time.
I was once close to some roughly similar-minded rural folks in Georgia and then later North Carolina, but lacking the spiritual teaching-and-learning element provided by a figure like Stephen Gaskin, individual interests exerted too much of a centrifugal force and the sense of community didn’t last. Broke my heart to see it, too. But whatcha gonna do?
Intergenerational weirdness reminiscent of the movie “Flashback”
where Kiefer Sutherland, a budding FBI agent and Reagan supporter tasked with delivering a Seventies-era counterculture “domestic terrorist” to federal prison, [warning: spoilers ahead]
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turns out to have been a commune-reared child of hippies who chose to break with his past, his parents, and their world and way of life:
https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/article/13050290/a-dispute-involving...
On a more upbeat note, here’s what a writer for Vanity Fair said about The Farm in 2007:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/05/thefarm200705
so was the boogaloo boy Jimmy interviewed
a child of a commune that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZMB9052rEs (39 min)
commune comment early in the interview.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Oh yeah, I saw that — that’s where the name “Panvidya” came from
They all chose or were given new names, like early Christians, Hare Krishna devotees, and monastic orders.
One more in the SE worth a mention
https://www.koinoniafarm.org/
It is a christian commune started back in the 40's
https://www.habitat.org/ap/about/how-we-began
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I remember having sung this in Berlin in 1968
and I remember having had the little red Mao bible. Not that I have read that bible, but I kinda loved the Internationale. Strangely the Mao bible is not among my books on the shelf anymore. Don't know how and when i lost it. but I still have the bio of "Genossin Tschiandg Tsching" May be I should read it one day. I find the partner's thoughts of big man more interesting some times
What a life.
I am listening to tons of Raul Malo.
I am also listening to horror stories about the Moderna vaccination. Our district attorney and his receptionist were the first ones in that office to get the shot. Both of them had to leave work as they were too ill to function. The receptionist said within an hour, she could not walk.
Good times!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Whoa baby, that is not good news. How many things like
the district attorney and his receptionist are tallied in some way and more to the point, published as an adverse event we can all understand? Hmmmm?
Does this make you want to wait? I sure do. So many people have some part of one or two of their systems that is not bang on the numbers, that puts them at risk they may not even know they have.
The biggest question is which is worse, getting the virus or getting vaccinated without knowing everything that is in the syrup they mix together. Until all is published it is a crap shoot.
Take care, stay safe.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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I was pretty appalled.
When I called, the DA had already gone home. The receptionist spoke with me briefly as she was leaving. She was just about in tears. She said for the first hour, she was fine, then just dropped. She was dizzy, nauseated, and unable to walk. Now, she is terrified of taking the second shot.
The DA is 67, has had COVID, a mild case. The receptionist is in her early 60's. She is overweight, took it because her husband is immune system compromised. She was trying to protect him.
My office faces a residence where grandparents, kids, and grand kids all have COVID. The rear of my office faces a commercial building owned and managed by that same family. I mentioned the other day that "everyone around me" is infected, and that is both true and horrifying.
I do not believe any of the 3 brands used as trial groups anyone with allergies. Both the DA and receptionist have chronic allergies from pollen.
I have seasonal pollen allergies and an allergic reaction to iodine. I am very hesitant to try the shots. We are anywhere from 25 minutes to 45 minutes from a hospital.
As I age, medicines I have never taken before tend to cause some weird rash. I broke out in a total body rash a few days after taking a multivitamin, as did my fiance'. As soon as we tossed the vitamins, we began to mend.
I just may not be able to join the herd.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Hey OTC, you two might consider asking your doc for EPI
pens. I have found the same thing: the older we get the more things our immune systems just don't do well with. We have EPI pens. I had a reaction years ago, which caused me to jab twice. Nasty, unpleasant, scary reaction.
My big issue is knowing what besides the main ingredient is in a pill, shot, vitamin drink, you name it. They are called excipients or other ingredients. Most vitamins, supplements, medical pills, shots, even IV Saline have things people can be allergic to.
The key is finding out what else is in anything we ingest, breathe, take in any form. Lots of capsule delivered supplements for example use lactose. I have a mild milk allergy. Repeated use increases my sensitivity. If I find out Lactose is in a medicine or capsule, I don't buy or take it.
I don't see a great deal of information on the bonus ingredients in any of the vaccines. We have a right to know for our safety. Also, if something happens, emergency people will know what to do. And if it's not the primary ingredient, then the blame can't be put on the treating substance.
Good luck to everyone.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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Not only is their junk in medicines,
being at good levels in various vitamins, due to good diet and sun, can result in an overdose of those vitamins.
You reminded me...I, too, am mildly lactose intolerant.
I just have a mental block about purchasing an EPI pen, which I have never needed, to feel safer taking a shot to enhance my safety from the virus. That is just such contorted damn reasoning to me. And yet, that is the only way I could even consider taking that jab. Moreover, I am not 100% sure my dr. would recommend the shot anyway.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Do you know about the Vaccine Producers Protection Law?
Because the statute of limitations on pediatric cases does not lapse until age 21, manufacturers have been at the mercy of relentless assaults against their products. Some cases are warranted and others are not. The Law fixed the problem so well you have to try the cases for damage in federal courts and the success rate is as little as Biden finishing his term.
People who have had Covid are likely to have a stronger
response to the vaccine. The symptoms sound like evidence of a very strong immune response to the vaccine.
The secretary may have been exposed earlier by her boss without realizing it. If you are sure that you have not had Covid then this may not be a problem for you. Your allergies sound like they should be discussed with your Dr. and maybe you should get any vaccines somewhere where they are set up to deal with allergic reactions.
I know someone who got the Moderna last week without any problems. I would personally prefer the Moderna or Pfizer, but will take whichever one I can get first if the J&J or Oxford vaccines are approved.
I know several folks who got the moderna jab with no probs
so far anyway. Makes me nervous to hear your story OTC cause I've signed up but not been called. Guess I need to do more homework.
CDC claims low threat for 65+ folks...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/reactogeni...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I have a client who is a nurse who had the Moderna
with no problem. I am not sure what to do, and want to wait before I get vaccinated. I am strictly observing a stay home, stay apart, stay outdoors protocol. It should go without saying, but I wear a mask, sanitize my hands, sanitize surfaces as appropriate.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
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I had the Moderna. No problem. My friend Mary had it, no problem. Between us we have many (different) issues and neither of us have had regular flu shots for years. Both 75. Both got the regular flu shot this year bc of covid. I did do research. The cases where there are problems are very rare. So there’s that.
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There was a pause in the use of a specific batch of Moderna in
SoCal because of a cluster of bad reactions (from a paticular vaccination venue), and a few other cases that have been mentioned, but a ton of folks have had it, including some we know personally, with no effect beyond the normal injection site soreness that one gets from just about any injectiion, lots of elderly too in that unscientific sample. We are on a wait list, and trying to find excess doese prior to that, because we're planning a vacay and have to get that 28 day booster in as well. I'm a real wreck in many respects, many chronic allergies, mild asthma (was severe but it beat it out of myself with strenuous exercise), hepatitis in the seventies, ulcerative colitis and more, so we'll see how I fare - I figure if it doesn't hassle me, it should be pretty benign.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Wow - seriously delayed dupe
so what to put here instead? how about nuthin
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
With your vivid imagination, dude,
you coulda put up somethin!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Da kine big mo hurry scurry all him day today, sorry.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
«The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE !!» department
https://www.india.com/viral/shocking-11-year-old-boy-learns-hacking-tips...
And: a video I watched last year about catching and eating nutria, which have become a pest in western Oregon and many other places:
https://mousetrapmonday.com/videos/catch-cook-eat-nutria/
I thought about promoting them as cheap food
and decided to check on the idea before posting it and it turns out that they are a carrier for something - quickly does quickie search - ok
--- https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/operational-act.... ---
-- https://wildlife-damage-management.extension.org/do-nutria-carry-any-dan... --
Nutria can be infected with several pathogens and parasites that can be transmitted to humans, livestock, and pets. The role of nutria, however, in the spread of diseases such as equine encephalomyelitis, leptospirosis, hemorrhagic septicemia (Pasteurellosis), paratyphoid, and salmonellosis is not well documented. They may also host a number of parasites, including the nematodes and blood flukes that cause “swimmer’s-itch” or “nutria-itch” (Strongyloides myopotami and Schistosoma mansoni), the protozoan responsible for giardiasis (Giardia lamblia), tapeworms (Taenia spp.), and common liver flukes (Fasciola hepatica).
Don't know how cooking them counters all of that nor of any risks inherent in butchering them
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Tapeworms are just added protein to a gator.
My gastric pH is 1, top of the pH scale. Put chrome in my gut and I'll eventually have a lifetime supply of iron oxide. Tapeworms, helminths and other gut loving parasites don't do nothin' to me. It would be like bathing in hydrochloric acid. Anyone want a dip?
mornin' Gator. I think I saw this movie, we airlift in
thousands of gators to eliminate the nutria, and then ...
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Trivial, but there's a minor problem with this sentence...
Strongyloides is probably what should be referred to as "nutria-itch". Swimmer's itch is caused by Schistosomatid of ducks or beavers/nutria--basically, the infectious larvae penetrates the skin, realizes it is not in a duck and dies-causing a local inflammatory response.
Schistosoma mansoni is the human infectious one. Usually found in African waters (and in a lab where I worked ~30years ago)...The way the life-cycle works, it is probably difficult to get these parasites from eating the host's meat, but swimming in water with infected hosts and snails is a problem..
Fun-fact for the day.
Hola, peachcreek. Thanks for the info.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hilarious - the nutria vid
HilFuckingArious - the questions and answers at the end of the video. Guy is a charmer. My daughter used to get road kill and cook it. Part of her survival class training. Great video as well. Thanks.
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Good morning, philly~
I'm sure enjoying the elites squirm. The gamers gaming Game Stop are giving me the thrill of the week! Volatility in America - it's about time!
Enjoy the weekend!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Washington DC fears a “V for Vendetta” enough to deploy troops
and erect semi-permanent fences, barriers, and checkpoints all over the place, so …
It does rather look like in the meantime We the People will have to settle for “V for Volatility”…
militarized capital
not a good look
rhymes with junta
when the governors fear the governed
there is a problem for the governors
surrounding the capital with barbed wire
and armed troops doesn't look much like
a democracy.
the world is watching
That's the next 4 years...or more
Biden inaugural. Troops outnumber watchers.
Troops in Washington remain posted while Joe signs executive orders while he still knows how to write.
Pelosi's possé of The Awoken dutifully grovel at her feet (but she does have the best pedal hygiene money can buy) and faithfully, obediently, cunningly (?), sign to once again throw The Donald into the fearful maws of the Senate (or, was that yawns).
Anybody looking at Basement Biden during this clown show?
Good morning Philly, thanks for the column.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hey Philly blue
Good reading your back ground there.
Makes a lot of sense.
Finishing Iain Banks The Bridge
Too dark for me. Did read Steven D's
Travels with a Dead Man. Interesting story.
Good luck
Me too. Bought it from the publisher. The time changes took a
little getting used to, but not bad once in the swing of things. An interesting premise.
Hope Steven D is doing ok.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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With his son
from what I know. The story was jumbled at first, but drawn in by the end.
I like a book that finishes itself. Not leading into a sequel. The end is
important.
witnessing history
https://www.theonion.com/biden-continues-reading-the-pet-goat-to-schoolc...
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
L.B. re history lesson
Question: are you a natural host for Coronavirus, especially Sinovirus species?
Now to the Onion--
Ain't so funny after all--because I'll bet you the book Biden was reading was all the grade level he could master. Remember when Dubya was reading to them school kiddies during 9/11? Yep, the scurried ol" Darth Cheney into bunkers. Then our brave Dubya took control back in D.C., remembering, unfortunately, to release Cheney from the bunker.