The Dose 11-11-2021

A column for kind and considerate conversation of all things COVID

The wisdom and accumulated knowledge in the older and elderly are an important bank of cultural, historical, practical ways of doing many things. Our losses of older people are stored information we need now more than ever.

Treasure the old and experienced.

This is an open thread for Covid. Please be kind and civil. Thank you.

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John talked with Kyle a couple of weeks ago, and this is an update after he testified at Sen Johnson's adverse reaction hearing. It is an interesting hour conversation.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rZZTPp-eYU]

I find it criminal that treatments are denied in order to funnel profits to big pharma.

I still find it difficult to believe the evil of our sick care system.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout @Lookout segment/show today and the cognitive dissonance is unbelievable. The new Pfizer analogue to IVM was talked about.

They were saying that pregnant women were not in the studies for another maker, so pregnant women shouldn't take the protease inhibitor. Wow. But the shots are ok, studied or not.

Edit to add: You are so right, it is criminal behavior on a grand scale.

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This is the first time that doctors haven’t been allowed to treat patients any way they deem right. Off labeled drugs have always been allowed for treatment and especially when there was nothing to lose by doing it when people were on their death beds. Big pharma gets to say that their drugs can be used off label when there have been no trials showing it’s beneficial.

In other news:

Utah Legislature passes bill allowing exemptions to Biden vaccine or testing mandate

SB2004 provides employees the opportunity to use exemptions to vaccine mandates. He said it mirrors what exists in higher and public education. The exemptions include personal, medical or religious reasons.

The bill also requires employers to pay for COVID-19 workplace testing; prohibits them from making an adverse action against an employee who claims a vaccine exemption; and prohibits an employer from keeping or maintaining a record or copy of an employee's proof of vaccination, except under certain conditions.

Whether this will make any difference remains to be seen since Utah is a right to work state. But it’s good to see legislators trying to bring some sanity into this.

BTW on the claim that Jimmy lied to his viewers I watched his video disclaiming it. Anyone who doesn’t accept what he’s saying is just biased against him. Easy solution for those who don’t like him or agree with him..stop watching him. I used to love Rising, but Saagar's viewpoints are off putting for me and I find Krystal to be wrong too many times so I quit watching them. Easy peasy. If I keep adding my $.02 some day I’ll have spent a dollar. Giggle.

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for U.S. healthcare workers...

The attorneys general of Missouri, Nebraska, Arkansas, Kansas, Iowa, Wyoming, Alaska, South Dakota, North Dakota, and New Hampshire jointly filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri in St. Louis.

This article is a bit slanted towards the opinion of the CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicare Services), but it is something informing.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-11-11/10-states-sue-Biden-administration...

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The FDA is dumping the PCR test in December because it doesn’t work and it has now recalled millions of tests people can buy themselves because they give false positive results so how can anyone trust the numbers anymore? If the one that has been in use since the beginning isn’t really valid and people are getting false positives from another one then why are we still getting daily update on new infections?

We just saw Italy drop the number of deaths from Covid from very high numbers to not so much. There’s a huge difference between dying from Covid and dying from other diseases but testing positive for Covid. This is the 2nd county that has changed their numbers. Will others follow and if so when? I’m asking this because of my local rag's daily reporting on infections and deaths and who knows what’s true anymore? Besides the Rona has become endemic and pretty much everyone is going to get it. Unless you already have antibodies to it because it’s been around for awhile…well except it might have been futzed with in a lab. In that case…I’m getting lost.

https://www.rt.com/usa/540002-covid-home-test-recall/

From the article:

Why is this happening?

Unvaccinated Vermonters are still the people getting sick and being hospitalized at the highest rates. Infection rates among people in their 20s and children have also contributed to the most recent surge, Levine said.

"An infected person can spread the virus to five people or more, far faster than the original strain," Levine said. "This means it can spread faster than we can trace and alert contacts."

Meaning that since the jabs are leaky ones people who have gotten jabbed can still be infected with the virus and they can spread it to others who have also been jabbed. One reason why more kids are now testing positive is because it’s exactly what others warned could/would happen. You don’t jab everyone during an active epidemic. It causes the virus to mutate and become easier to infect others. How did the scientists who worked on them not know or remember that from school?

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@snoopydawg
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

You don’t jab everyone during an active epidemic. It causes the virus to mutate and become easier to infect others. How did the scientists who worked on them not know or remember that from school?

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

How can so many not care about their integrity? Or were the ones that didn’t agree get silenced and overruled?

I was making good money working for a doctor who started doing surgery on people who did not need it and I was ready to pump gas at less money to get away with working for him. I turned him into the medical board and fortunately another doctor offered me a job. Sadly the board did nothing and he continued doing it. Became so successful that he was able to build a free standing surgical building and went on his merry way. Many doctors knew what he was doing because they saw people he had operated on and screwed up, but they just yapped about him. I took a big risk turning him in. But I could not continue watching him harm people. Gahh what a memory.

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@snoopydawg believing that other humans can be as cruel and unfeeling as they can be.

It is a flaw of our species.

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and about 10% of these are psychopaths. They gravitate towards positions of power and control in our society as they are excellent manipulators. They have a complete lack of empathy.

I once was involved with a woman with those characteristics. It took years to recover from that experience because it can shake your faith in humanity to the core. They don't even realize they're doing damage when you try to confront them.

7 Characteristics of the Modern Psychopath
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Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes identified interchangeably as sociopathy or psychopathy, is defined by the Mayo Clinic as: “A mental condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.”
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In the modern age, sociopaths and psychopaths are usually not the mass murderers that are sometimes portrayed in popular media (with exceptions). Instead, contemporary sociopaths and psychopaths may outwardly appear functional and successful. They instigate abuse and harm through more indirect and insidious means.

In personal relationships, sociopaths and psychopaths often initially entice with their superficial charisma and calculated charm, before revealing their cruel and uncaring nature over time (i.e., after a committed relationship is established or an important agreement is made). They deceive, manipulate, and abuse in relationships without remorse, leaving their victims wounded and traumatized by their utter lack of decency and empathy.
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@snoopydawg then society humanity would be in a much better place.

History shows western civilization to have many flaws, this is just one of them.

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"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh

Too many people would probably agree with this treatment of the UN-jabbed because they think that every person who hasn’t been is Typhoid Mary just waiting to infect someone who has been jabbed. It’s another first. Well people are supposedly sick and must be shunned by the rest of society. It’s like being found guilty before any trial. The presumption of wellness is gone just because people are afraid. Why are they afraid? Because they have been subjected to fear for 20 months and have been lied to as long. The dying from instead of with has skewed the numbers of deaths. As we’ve been saying it’s been a massive psychosis psyops going far back but elevated after 9/11 and then Russia Russia and Trump bad and now this.

Doctors and nurses worked for many months before the ‘vaccines' came out and some got sick and others did not, but now they put the jabbed patients at risk even though they are still wearing PPE. Guess that doesn’t offer protection anymore either. And people are ignoring countries and states with high vaccination rates that are seeing infections going up. Vermont and Israel are highly vaccinated and most of the people in hospital now are the jabbed. Sure the media and people like Fauci and Psaki et all are saying that it’s an epidemic of the UN jabbed, but that’s not what the true info is saying.

I’m just hoping that we won’t see an increase of kids dying from the jabs or getting seriously injured. And why don’t they know about the countries that have stopped jabbing young people? When do they take responsibility for being uninformed because they just watch the mainstream media?

ETA: one thing mentioned here is that doctors won’t write for exemptions because they are being threatened with losing their license to be doctors and that includes for medical reasons. That’s what makes this insane. If you’re trying to save lives then why the hell push it on people who have a good chance of having a bad reaction to it? People who did have severe adverse effects are still being denied medical exemptions. It’s things like this that drives up belief that there’s something nefarious behind the mandates.

ETA:

Too late…

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Here’s the article on enabling.

Letter to a Colluder: Stop Enabling Tyranny

I’m willing to die to defend my liberty. Are you willing to die to take my liberty?

No? Good. Then stop enforcing totalitarian measures against your neighbors on behalf of the tyrants, who wouldn’t hesitate to annihilate you. Stop planning, directing, supervising, controlling, and performing their dirty work. Become part of the resistance instead of an enabler of democidal despots.

Whether you are a law enforcement officer, public health official, psychologist, scientist, medical professional, educator, employer, censor, propagandist, or any other agent of complicity in this war against the people, you are what makes dictatorships possible. You are what makes enslavement possible. You are what makes genocide possible. You are what makes the Biggest Lie in history possible.

It doesn’t take that many:

“A few hundred at the top, to plan and direct at every level; a few thousand to supervise and control (without a voice in policy) at every level; a few score thousand specialists (teachers, lawyers, journalists, scientists, artists, actors, athletes, and social workers) eager to serve or at least unwilling to pass up a job or to revolt; a million of the Pöbel, which sounds like ‘people’ and means ‘riffraff,’ to do what we would call the dirty work, ranging from murder, torture, robbery, and arson to the effort which probably employed more Germans in inhumanity than any other in Nazi history, the standing of ‘sentry’ in front of Jewish shops and offices in the boycott of April, 1933.”

—Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933–45 (paperback, Kindle, audiobook)

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things I have ever read - highly recommend - it's really deserving of its own essay.

Will try sharing it elsewhere, although am not optimistic about how many will bother to read and consider.

Hey, with important things like Black Friday coming up, who can be bothered with tiresome trivia like totalitarian enslavement... If it's for our own protection, who could possibly be against it?

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@Blue Republic

I’m reading this essay by her.

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-covidian-a-time-travel

Think back to a couple of years ago—summer 2019, let’s say. What were you doing then? What was your life like? How did you feel about your past, present, and future? What did you care about? How did you spend your time? What were your core values? What would you think about how you think, feel, and behave today?

That’s the person I want to talk to—not your present self. I’m sure your 2019 self would be fascinated to hear what your current self has to say—although I’d be willing to bet a few thousand inflationary dollars she wouldn’t recognize what you’ve become.
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I’m speaking to everyone who persists in uncritically accepting the rationales being given for remaking our world into an open-air prison. I’m speaking to everyone who is sleepwalking into their own enslavement without a second thought, without even the willingness to examine the situation from a perspective outside the one they’ve been programmed to believe.

That so many people are accepting what the government is telling them is just mind boggling. So many people have ditched the values that they once upheld above all else. I try to look at myself objectively and see if I’ve changed mine, but I think I’m still who I was a few years ago. Granted I’m more cynical now, but who isn’t?

She also has one on the Holocaust that is pretty good too. I’ve subscribed to her substack. Lots of great writers on it recently. No wonder the mainstream media keeps poo pooing it.

From the comments she said this:

MountainBlues, I believe TDS is one of the most ingenious tactics the propagandists have deployed and automatically gets the indoctrinated to shut their mind to any idea tainted with guilt by association.

I think that’s pretty much what happened. Democrats ran the biggest psyops on their supporters about Trump Trump Trump every Damn day and got their media mouthpieces to do the same by focusing on every damn thing Trump said and did for 5 years straight and it broke their minds. Just look at how many of them are still focused on Trump even though he’s out of office. The wreck list on DK is more about Trump and republicans than it is about democrats. We all know how bad republicans are, but so are democrats just as bad. They just sold out the country for their donors again just like they did during Obama. But again Biden’s getting a pass and not even engaged in running the country. Who is?

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@Blue Republic

Not sure if you saw I had answered you the next day.

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the link.

Maybe apropos tweet today from Jordan Peterson:

Dr Jordan B Peterson
@jordanbpeterson
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17h
A harmless man is not a good man.

A good man is a very, very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control.

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@snoopydawg or the "Great Reset" or some combo thereof? Does anything else explain the insanity?

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"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
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@ggersh
It doesn’t seem as far fetched an idea as it did pre COVID. We certainly have a massive domestic propaganda program (psyop?) rolling along at ‘Warp Speed”. It’s not just the vaccine we’re being conditioned to blindly accept.

I don’t think I’m going to like this New World Order the oligarchs seem to be cooking up for us.

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Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

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@ovals49 The Paris Review (Finks) and Kennedy: The Unspeakable, I believe you may have it right.

I'm still convinced by some of the items CB provided awhile ago that our own Fort Detrick may have been a source or the source of a lab created virus.

It seems the more information that comes out about what doesn't track with our previous methods for releasing new drugs, therapeutics etc., what isn't supported by even imperfect databases, and many other anomalies, the harder the injection campaigns are pushed. Doubling down.

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@ggersh @ggersh "Can someone please produce the following satirical video and post it?...

Opening scene: Clips of people dying, overrun hospitals, fear in the streets, dead bodies everywhere, chaos in the markets.

Next scene: Biden, Trudeau, Macron, Morrison, Johnson, and other world leaders in a tense emergency conference.

Biden - "But everyone is VAC-CIN-AT-ED. Everyone. We got them all, right?"

Macron - "Oui, 100% in France."

Johnson - "Yes, 100% in the UK. Canada?"

Trudeau - "Uh... 99.9999%. We're missing two guys. Doug and Bob McKenzie. A couple brothers living somewhere in a cabin in the Yukon wilderness. We're looking for them now."

All the leaders throw up their arms and let out a collective "Ahhhh!!!!!"

Macron - "That's it then! That's the reason for the ongoing global outbreaks and overwhelmed hospitals!" Morrison - "Yes! It's the pandemic of the McKenzie brothers! They are spreading it to the world!"

Next scene: New anchors on TVs announcing that the hunt is on for the McKenzie brothers. Only once they are vaccinated will the pandemic end. Cut to scenes of military helicopters combing the Yukon wilderness. Then we see the two brothers in a cabin, happily and healthily cooking Canadian bacon, sipping beers, and asking, "What's that?" as helicopters buzz overhead.

And a closing text overlay declaring, "This is our future. And that's why we have to stop you maniacs."

(This comes to you from a commentor on ZeroHedge)

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NYCVG

@NYCVG

us unvaxxed type have to endure on a daily basis?
Have to come up with new excuses beyond the
religious deferment, health issues and don't trust
the gobmint. Getting creative now, cause non-thinkers
will swallow just about any pity policy pill.
Sheesh

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@QMS pregnant women. We don't talk about it with family or friends.

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You would assume that if the CDC was going to crush the civil and individual rights of those with natural immunity by having them expelled from school, fired from their jobs, separated from the military, and worse, the CDC would have proof of at least one instance of an unvaccinated, naturally immune individual transmitting the COVID-19 virus to another individual. If you thought this, you would be wrong.

My firm, on behalf of ICAN, asked the CDC for precisely this proof (see below). ICAN wanted to see proof of any instance in which someone who previously had COVID-19 became reinfected with and transmitted the virus to someone else. The CDC’s incredible response is that it does not have a single document reflecting that this has ever occurred. Not one. (See below.)

In contrast, there are endless documents reflecting cases of vaccinated individuals becoming infected with and transmitting the virus to others. Such as this study. And this study. And this study. And this study. It goes on and on…

But it gets worse. The CDC’s excuse for not having a shred of evidence of the naturally immune transmitting the virus is that “this information is not collected.” What?! No proof! But yet the CDC is actively crushing the rights of millions of naturally immune individuals in this country if they do not get the vaccine on the assumption they can transmit the virus. But despite clear proof the vaccinated spread the virus, the CDC lifts restrictions on the vaccinated?! That is dystopian.

There’s more but fair use has been stretched.

A response:

This is shocking and yet not surprising; government and PharMaffia taking steps to engorge tax coffers and corporate balance sheets at the expense of civil liberties. We do NOT have a free country; we are suffering under a totalitarian regime that does corporations’ bidding.

Amen!

First time in history that natural immunity has an end date. It’s been known for centuries that people who survive a disease have great immunity from getting sick again. Can it happen? Sure but what we have been told that it’s not as good as getting vaccinated. And since there are reports that the current jabs lower people’s immunity why on earth would they ever mandate people take them? It’s not just about money IMO.

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@NYCVG made my day along with the A&C twiit posted by snoopydawg

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and dying with Covid. I think the critical thinkers are beginning to crawl out from their sheltered rocks and say hey! there is a difference, you know. Just because they have isolated a few particular strains of the flu this year (it's been around for quite a while now) doesn't preclude the determination that (almost) everyone is now mandated to take an experimental drug therapy. It is a boatload of BS.

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@QMS

Guy died from gunshot and was put on the list of dying from Covid. The guy is going huh? It’s been admitted that that’s what has been happening everywhere. I’m hoping more countries will do an update to their numbers.

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@QMS https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-holds-e2-80-98war-games-e2-8...

The Irresponsible Inhumane War Machine is so excited to add another target to its list!

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@NYCVG

"...Maybe we can drink Clorox..."
found in the comment section of your link
funny stuff!

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@snoopydawg false positives than to have false negatives. The PCR test will be biased one way or the other. So he votes for causing people to treat.

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@snoopydawg [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53tHJkIQj8]

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Weird how China built hospitals for people who got sick instead of sending them home and risking them infecting people living with them. Other countries put people into hotels until they were well, but we sent people home and said good luck keeping your family safe. It sure seemed to be a boneheaded way to end the epidemic don’t you think?

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[video:https://youtu.be/5dbshnvztGA]

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And how enslaved we are to drug companies becaus e of trade deals like TRIPS. We let them kill 30 million people in the 90s and get away with it and now they are out of control and have both parties completely controlled in their clutches. Cant people see that both parties now are basically complete sellouts and that its all THEATER.. . Deal with it. Politiucians are picked for being controllable. Not a single one seems genuine.

Now, I have to say that I am completely disappointed by how little I hear online about this. There is a war going on and corporations are literally taking over the earth. Life and death issues are involved and our governmemt has become the bad guy in many ways, but we are just swallowing all the Kool Aid as if we were children. Thats all that I can say.

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money. Sorry, but its true. The US and UK are the worst. Pray that they dont join up with the UK, People should be aware that they are discussing this, creating one country ourtof all the english speaking countries, which would be a disaster because all laws get "harmonized" DOWNWARD to the lowest common denominator..

Including wage laws..They really want this. So they can pay people desperate for food almost nothing as the jobs are traded and automated away. They frame the last century's pre-WTO wage and labor laws as a now-illegal trade barrier holding back their ideal global single market for labor. Where all laws have to be the least burdensome necessary.. a special word it and necessity, which has a specific legal meaning in WTO speak. Look that up!

ALSO, We are insufficiently servile enough. Thats what the fake news is about now.

They claim people don't have the skills and we dont have the workers, their expectations are too high. We think its still 1990, when in fact the world has been changed, which they covered up.

They hid all the changes So you wouldn't worry.. No dont worry your pretty little empty heads about what we are doing.. Sleep .. sleep.. ,

Hey politicians, you clueless ones.. its you that lack any wisdom. And you that are involved in the conspiracy. To steal the world..

its actually that Americans want a living wage here in America. They want to kill the hope. They and their oligarch friends.. Claim they cant afford democracy.

Well, its absolutely ESSENTIAL because the oligarchs are arguably insane and often unfit to govern.

People are startiung to see how out of touch with any humanity they are. They dont want to risk lives waste lives just to please the idle rich.

so, as you wanted they don't believe your crap either. The same Americans you are trying to undermine all the advantages of. You dont care one bit about. Its all an act, its 100% fake. The reasons people want to move here that you are trying to nullify and eliminate. A deent life.. Decent page. You plan to shaft them too. Workers used to have protections here, the victories fought long and hard for all the protections of the last hundred years that you are trying so hard to roll back.

The nerve of that. But thats the truth. They want to nullify all the changes that people fouyght so hard for. Roll back the whole new deal. The real new deal is in yiour sights.

You all just hate it. The benefits people paid for they are determined to steal them. You can read that in the WTO in plain text. They wnt to excise the cancer of public services. Leaving people totally at the mercy of the corporate state. Really. A return to a feudal world where money is the source of everything. Is everything.

They are trying to nullify anything that gives people power to run their own lives, like real democracy., We lost it in 1995. The ability to actually do or change laws.. they stole it more than two decades ago. Because they want every regulation to be the same, the lowest comon denominator. But when that LCD protects anybody they want to simply get rid of it. Showing they are a scam. That their amoral "free trade" ideology is a scam. They really just want no law besides money.

In democracy they complain the people wopuld just vote to fix things they thouyght were problematiuc, destroying their proprty, their investment. They want no limits on them. they make workers cost more than they do in India, and Africa..

But they don't want to pay a living wage. They have been planning for huge windfalls now for decades.. And planning in how to strike their power grabbing strike, withy their oligarch friends.. sitting on their 65 foot or larger yachts..

. They would rather outsource all the jobs to Africa. Where wages are just one or two dollars a day. .
Thats the profit, the yields they want. How sleazy they are.

And cover up GATS, The political class really dont want people to know whats really going on or how fucked up and dishonest, the huge phonies they are. .

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most of us, we gotta work to pay the bills
yes, many opportunities for skilled labor have been shipped
overseas for corporate profit
but the talent and ingenuity of our workforce has not
diminished, only the opportunities to be exploited by the owner class
have dwindled. I see more people now taking their livelihood into their
own hands as a result. If corporate structures want to bleed other countries dry,
it doesn't change our basic problem solving skills. Make your own way.

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or even move to another province if they are not vaccinated and don't follow all the new regulations. The Canadian government has been slowly and surely curtailing people's rights using COVID-19 as a pretext. I figure the next step the government will be taking is to follow Chomsky's advice and stop them from buying food.

Jordan Peterson even got suckered:

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They want to grab all the power, and cancel democracy.

- The rich knew it was coming. Everything I saw and see tells me this is the global grab they have been setting up since the late 1980s. Starting with the Punte Del Este event 15-20 September, 1986 in a fabulously wealthy city most people cant even afford to visit for a few hours, in Uruguay.

You can see they knew is the case from the things they did. They were and still are planning for it. But not in a good way. They were planning to seize power, and end democracy, which they hate, calling it "majoritarianism" We dont have democracy now. We are being led into traps.

Everything is part of a series of ratchets - Trade deals enable endless new nooses of deception for public servces, deception and then another deception they are forcing on all humanity.

Watch out for an endless chain of anti-democratic elite organizations dedicated to taking people and integrity in government out of the loop and replacing votgers with the self-styled "elites" thralls. (slaves)

All these gruops have similar agendas a takeover of the world, for their gain, intended to put all of us in our proper place because our lives are being deemed worthless, due tio "inevitable" (or so they say) economic changes that push the human element out.

They are trying to set up irreversible putocracy, taking the legitimacy out of government by taking away the peoples role in government. Bill Gates and Event 201. Which now he is pretending never happened.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174]

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CB's picture

@zed2
information management and control and little for HOW to curb the pandemic.

Who initiated this exercise? They appear to be operating from a script.

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snoopydawg's picture

People’s decisions on their health is nobody else’s business. I don’t know why people think that it is their business what others do with their body. We don’t ask health care workers if they have any other infectious diseases or what vaccines they have had. I don’t know how to change it, but Margaret has some good ideas. How to get others to hear them is beyond me.

No words if this is real.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.